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TheDeuce

06-08-2002, 04:48 AM

This is how I would've liked to see Adore (with 80 minutes to work with)

1. To Sheila
2. The End Is The Beginning Is The End
3. Ava Adore
4. Blissed And Gone
5. Perfect
6. Daphne Descends
7. Annie-Dog
8. Once In A While
9. Eye
10. Crestfallen
11. Appels + Oranjes
12. Pug
13. Sparrow
14. The Tale Of Dusty And Pistol Pete
15. Waiting
16. Blank Page
17. For Martha

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sugarsickness

06-08-2002, 05:16 AM

Originally posted by TheDeuce:
This is how I would've liked to see Adore (with 80 minutes to work with)

1. To Sheila
2. The End Is The Beginning Is The End
3. Ava Adore
4. Blissed And Gone
5. Perfect
6. Daphne Descends
7. Annie-Dog
8. Once In A While
9. Eye
10. Crestfallen
11. Appels + Oranjes
12. Pug
13. Sparrow
14. The Tale Of Dusty And Pistol Pete
15. Waiting
16. Blank Page
17. For Martha



wow, it's not like that wouldn't suck at all. TEITBITE and Sparrow? yeah....

jet set willy

06-08-2002, 05:34 AM

Originally posted by sugarsickness:
wow, it's not like that wouldn't suck at all. 

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frenchy

06-08-2002, 06:20 AM

How can you forget Saturnine (Adore vers.)?

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Woody

06-08-2002, 07:01 AM

That isn't too bad a tracklisting.
I would definitely take out TEITBITE.

Saturnine would have to go before Ava Adore...so it could lead in to it, being as the outro to Saturnine = intro to Ava Adore.
So my ultimate Adore tracklisting, if running time were no object, would be:

1. To Sheila
2. Perfect
3. Daphne Descends
4. Let Me Give the World To You
5. Saturnine
6. Ava Adore
7. Once in a While
8. Crestfallen
9. Appels + Oranjes
10. Pug
11. Eye
12. Shame
13. Behold the Nightmare
14. The Tale Of Dusty And Pistol Pete
15. Sparrow
16. Waiting
17. For Martha
18. Blank Page

And maybe: 19.Czarina

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DoctaSoma

06-08-2002, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by Woody:
That isn't too bad a tracklisting.
I would definitely take out TEITBITE.

Saturnine would have to go before Ava Adore...so it could lead in to it, being as the outro to Saturnine = intro to Ava Adore.
So my ultimate Adore tracklisting, if running time were no object, would be:

1. To Sheila
2. Perfect
3. Daphne Descends
4. Let Me Give the World To You
5. Saturnine
6. Ava Adore
7. Once in a While
8. Crestfallen
9. Appels + Oranjes
10. Pug
11. Eye
12. Shame
13. Behold the Nightmare
14. The Tale Of Dusty And Pistol Pete
15. Sparrow
16. Waiting
17. For Martha
18. Blank Page

And maybe: 19.Czarina



I like your suggestion, but I would like to see Blissed and Gone in there. Not the released version though, a more stripped down version like the one on the Adore Demos. Perhaps I would put it after Crestfallen. I would take Appels and Oranjes out, throw it on the ground and stomp on it until it sounds more like Raindrops and Sunshowers.

-Ben

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mellon_c0llie

06-08-2002, 01:40 PM

1. to sheila
2. Ava adore
3. Cash Car Star
4. Dusty and Pistol Pete
5. My Mistake
6. Perfect (accoustic)
7. Falling
8. Pug
9. Annie Dog
10.Once Upon a time
11.For Martha
12. Blank Page
13. 17

less is more...

MonteLDS

06-08-2002, 08:24 PM

Graveflower

06-08-2002, 10:15 PM

I wouldn't change a thing on that album.

Dead

06-08-2002, 10:17 PM

Hey wasn't Sparrow Machina-era? That is a good song.

love minus zero

06-08-2002, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by mellon_c0llie:

less is more...



to sheila
once upon a time
ava adore
pug
let me give the world to you
blissed & gone
perfect
daphne descends
saturnine
shame
for martha
blank page

TheDeuce

06-09-2002, 02:32 AM

I don't have the Adore "Saturnine", so I didn't consider it. Downloading now...

LMGTWTY wasn't really "finished" until MACHINA, so I don't count it as a Adore song, but, if I did it'd be on there.

I'm pretty sure Sparrow was a Adore era song.

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DoctaSoma

06-09-2002, 02:44 AM

Originally posted by TheDeuce:

LMGTWTY wasn't really "finished" until MACHINA,


Wrong, LMGTWTY was recorded for Adore. I remember reading a conversation in which it was mentioned that Billy once asked Dave Asselin what he thought of the Adore LMGTWTY studio, as if he thought it had been leaked out.

[Please pardon any inaccuracies - Its all heresay]

-Ben

Jesse Miller

06-09-2002, 03:03 AM

Originally posted by TheDeuce:
This is how I would've liked to see Adore (with 80 minutes to work with)


Oh my dear God, the record was 30 minutes too long in the first place.

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Mustard

06-09-2002, 12:11 PM

no 17? i'm so shocked.

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Moon Dust

06-09-2002, 01:14 PM

i would take out tear, make it a double album and add
once in a while
my mistake
saturnine
cash car *
let me give the world to you
sparrow
chewing gum
(and was lover machina era or adore era?)
uhm, yeah

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Johnny Zoloft

06-09-2002, 01:22 PM

IF I HAD TO TDO IT IT WOULD BE~!!!

TODAY!
RAT IN A CAGE (KUZ THAT'S MI FAV SONG!!!)
KILLER IN ME!!
PARFECT!
EVA ADORE
tHE EVERLASING GAYS

THAT'S ALL!!!

THAT WOULD BE KEWL B-CUZ I LOVE THE SMASHING PUMPKINS1

snickerdoodles

06-09-2002, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by Johnny Zoloft:
IF I HAD TO TDO IT IT WOULD BE~!!!

TODAY!
RAT IN A CAGE (KUZ THAT'S MI FAV SONG!!!)
KILLER IN ME!!
PARFECT!
EVA ADORE
tHE EVERLASING GAYS

THAT'S ALL!!!

THAT WOULD BE KEWL B-CUZ I LOVE THE SMASHING PUMPKINS1 

wow. that wasn't even close to being even near remotely funny.

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Eulogy

06-09-2002, 04:12 PM

What's wrong with Tear? That's in my top 5 from the album.

jackboot7

06-10-2002, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by Eulogy:
What's wrong with Tear? That's in my top 5 from the album.

it's good the first couple of listens then it drones on a bit.

Irrelevant

06-10-2002, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by Graveflower:
I wouldn't change a thing on that album.

no, i wouldn't change a thing about the way you are!

well i would.

1. Chewing Gum
2. Do You Close Your Eyes
3. Saturnine
4. Let Me Give the World to You
5. Pug
6. Cash Car Star (adore style)
7. Wishing You Were
8. Once in a While
9. Czarina
10. Blissed + Gone

oh yeah, rock!

TheDeuce

06-12-2002, 05:54 PM

What I meant by "not really finished" is that Billy didn't feel the Adore version was fit for release, so, in my eyes, it must not have been finished. It wasn't "finished" until it was released on MACHINA II.

What's the Adore version of Cash Car Star on?

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Oblivious

06-12-2002, 08:31 PM

i think that adore flows perfectly just the way that it is. the production is seamless.

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Moonchild

06-13-2002, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by TheDeuce:
This is how I would've liked to see Adore (with 80 minutes to work with)

1. To Sheila
2. The End Is The Beginning Is The End
3. Ava Adore
4. Blissed And Gone
5. Perfect
6. Daphne Descends
7. Annie-Dog
8. Once In A While
9. Eye
10. Crestfallen
11. Appels + Oranjes
12. Pug
13. Sparrow
14. The Tale Of Dusty And Pistol Pete
15. Waiting
16. Blank Page
17. For Martha

*bored* http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/rolleyes.gif

Smiley

06-13-2002, 11:05 AM

1. Oui Henri
2. She Says
3. I Feel Love
4. I Am My End
5. STP
6. untitled SD-era instr
7. Murder Mix (Adore version)
8. Let Me Give The World To You (Gish version)
9. Last Instrumental
10. Offer Up
11. Bullet With Butterfly Wings
12. Jazzin'
13. Slunk (Bob English on vocals)
14. Girl Named Sandoz (Kerry Brown on xylophone)
15. Blank Page (Howard Stern on vocals)
16. 17

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Green Plastic

06-13-2002, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by Moon Dust:
i would take out tear, make it a double album and add
once in a while
my mistake
saturnine
cash car *
let me give the world to you
sparrow
chewing gum
(and was lover machina era or adore era?)
uhm, yeah


shut up.

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DoctaSoma

06-13-2002, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by TheDeuce:
What I meant by "not really finished" is that Billy didn't feel the Adore version was fit for release, so, in my eyes, it must not have been finished. It wasn't "finished" until it was released on MACHINA II.


I still think that the Adore version of LMGTWTY was finished and fit for release. It was not included on Adore because of the length that this would have made the album - Billy says this at an Adore era concert, perhaps Houston, I don't remember. I don't think that Billy would have seriously considered putting it on the album before he had made a decent polished studio recording, so that he knew what it sounded like. To say a song is not finished until it is released is a little silly to me - but perhaps that is not what you mean.

Originally posted by TheDeuce:
What's the Adore version of Cash Car Star on?


Nothing, I think evidence that this was recorded comes from a photograph of the bands whiteboard at the studio. Saturnine and LMGTWTY were also on this whiteboard.

-Ben

smashingjj

06-13-2002, 03:18 PM

fuck it. leave it the way it is, the production and the sequence of the songs is fine. the songs are too, of course.

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TheDeuce

06-17-2002, 02:41 AM

Is there any way to get ahold of the Adore version of LMGTWTY. Just wondering. I have the MACHINA II version and the MACHINA demos version. Are there more?

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Translucence

06-17-2002, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by Smiley:
1. Oui Henri
2. She Says
3. I Feel Love
4. I Am My End
5. STP
6. untitled SD-era instr
7. Murder Mix (Adore version)
8. Let Me Give The World To You (Gish version)
9. Last Instrumental
10. Offer Up
11. Bullet With Butterfly Wings
12. Jazzin'
13. Slunk (Bob English on vocals)
14. Girl Named Sandoz (Kerry Brown on xylophone)
15. Blank Page (Howard Stern on vocals)
16. 17



haha http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/smile.gif that's awesome.