Here we are! almost done, but not really. starting the thread from my home pc. i am one my way to the venue now

Getting breakfast with Benoit and Mat' and we're on our way to the venue !
See ya buddy !

I'm looking for tickets tonight, please come to see me on the line (i'll be in the first rows with the geeks), or reply on my email address.
See you soon : )

Hahahaha

Billy was all happy till he saw me. He said "that's the guy" to the driver. And look forward.

That was pretty funny. Also the band runner asked me if I had a job. I told her I work for myself. And I am on vacation

Sorry? Good stuff Monte.

Hahahaha

Billy was all happy till he saw me. He said "that's the guy" to the driver. And look forward.

That was pretty funny. Also the band runner asked me if I had a job. I told her I work for myself. And I am on vacation

lol. this would easily make my day. if ... my day was in the life of monte.

HAHAHAHA Monte, I'm sure he appreciates your presence there. Well, at least everyone here at Netphoria does :)

I have to say its normal of Corgan to have some concern. I think he prefers the more casual fan

I think Corgan was just pointing you out because he's considering your candidacy for being the pumpkin king.

supercrist?

I am going write him a note tonight. Tell him sorry if I come off too strong. Personally I am over the whole thing.

hahahahahahaahah

billy thinks you're stalking him

i don't know if a note is the best course of action

better watch out, he may have your tickets revoked for the rest of the shows!

Yeah, writing him a note may just prove his point more?? Just wear a disguise tomorrow ;)

You could come dressed as the statue of liberty, that'd show him.

I am going write him a note tonight. Tell him sorry if I come off too strong. Personally I am over the whole thing.

you're going to come off as weirder if you write him a note.

i feel bad for monte :(


fuck b0lly

u guyz letz teamkill billy.

Haha! Outed as a superstalker. Classic!

If I was billy, I'd be scared too!

You could come dressed as the statue of liberty, that'd show him.
:rofl:

just wear this:

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awww billy can get over it! Haha, I like getting these updates XD

The line is a good size tonite

He just doesn't want to get Dimebag Darrelled.

http://www.findagrave.com/photos/2005/342/10061348_113414333083.jpg

Why is Billy concerned? btw... will you be joining us in Orem in September?

Awesome...I consider that there are other, better stalkers out there than you monte...you caught pointed out.

The good ones are still hiding in the bushes, and in the sushi restaurant with binoculars.

Jimmy walked by and joked to me about last night :)
He said he was right on time tonight!

is there a opening band?

Yes I will be in orem for the show. Not sure corgans problem w/ me.

hopefully peace and love is played again tonight.

Yes I will be in orem for the show. Not sure corgans problem w/ me.

sorry for asking, but what do you mean by 'orem'?

Just happen to see them tuning all the guitars for billy. I saw the starla (mong) guitar and the one he plays w/ during "that's the way (my love is)"

Yes I will be in orem for the show.

Not sure corgans problem w/ me.

Yes I will be in orem for the show.

Not sure corgans problem w/ me.

Yes I will be in orem for the show.

Not sure corgans problem w/ me.
lol.

hey monte -- your ultimate retribution should be to totally dominate the tarantula video contest with your mad video skillz.

Jimmy walked by and joked to me about last night :)
He said he was right on time tonight!

What happened last night that was jokeworthy?

sorry for asking, but what do you mean by 'orem'?

:google:

Orem = utah show

My music video will be pretty intese. I hope it wins.

Thanks for the help Monte and Davin.

My music video will be pretty intese. I hope it wins.I am already voting for it as of now.

I am not sure who is audio taping other then agnew tonite. I'm not sure I will

does agnew look anything like paul hem?

And the opening band is here. Lets see what they do for us. I am not expecting too much

Ok the lights were off for a long time before they started. Not much better. But a whole lot better than last nites opening band. Zzzzz

hey dude, thanks for all the updates, what are you posting from?

Hahaha the opening band singer lead singer fell off the stage and I did not tape that. I hope someone else did :-x I did not see it but I was watching the guys in the sound booth and they stood up and u could see they were wondering what happen!!

is it Steel Dragon you're watching by any chance?

I believe Moving Units is tonight

Pumpkins fans should enjoy The Black Angels methinks. I myself thought they were mediocre when I saw them but Pumpkins fans would like them.

edit: shit, sorry, i didn't want to post with this username except in my banning thread on the gen board, my bad

I have no idea who this band is but they aren't what I like. But they have their own tech crew it seems. The drummer is dressed well. Boring though-

:apopcorn:

Man they are having a lot of tech problems tonite. The lead singer guitar player strap broke. and they tried to fix it but no dice. So in that regard they are interesting

hahahahaha

Man u can tell this band is at a complete lost. Their last song which they are playing now is their best song. Can't wait till they go off. But to each their own. Maybe someone will leave saying their set was better than sp2

Yes I will be in orem for the show. Not sure corgans problem w/ me.
Cool-- we'll see you in line. I'm taking work off. btw- is it MonteLDS because your name is Monte and you're LDS? I thought that might explain the white shirt and tie! lol

Wow the lead singer was pissed. He took the guitar off and threw it pretty hard on the floor

Wow the lead singer was pissed. He took the guitar off and threw it pretty hard on the floor


If I had played a bad show in front of a sold out audience I'd be pissed too.

Hahaha their is a long line to the mens bathroom but no line for the girls. I have 3 or 4 video tapers in my balcony

Someone is going be taping video right next to me

Cool-- we'll see you in line. I'm taking work off. btw- is it MonteLDS because your name is Monte and you're LDS? I thought that might explain the white shirt and tie! lol
jesus you're dumb
and ... slow.

exciting....cant wait to see the videos

i thought it was cause his name is Montel and he's a fan of the nintendo DS

why are you video taping the bathrooms.

Peace and love
With every light
Tonight tonight
Starz
Cherub
Starla
Superchrist
Doomsday clock
Neverlost
United states
33
Leaving lane
To sheila
Blue skies bring tears

supa dupa cryst

Hey Monte,

I met you at the Fillmore last week but never had the chance to say thanks for taping it.

You're doing a nice job keeping us updated with what's happening.

Don't quit....

hatchy matchy
starla>superChrist>Doomsday this is bliss

leaving lane == leaving lament?

This is a blackberry for whoever asked

it's a bird? it's a plane?
NO IT'S SUPERCHRIST!!!

Peace and love
With every light
Tonight tonight
Starz
Cherub
Starla
Superchrist
Doomsday clock
Neverlost
United states
33
Leaving lane
To sheila
Blue skies bring tears

whats leaving lane?

SUPERCRIST!

whats leaving lane?
my best guess is:
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Can't wait to hear Superchrist.

Also thanks for the updates MonteLDS!

They are late :
Unkpwn new song

jesus you're dumb
and ... slow.

yeah, probably. Is it that obvious?

They are late :
Unkpwn new song

like really unknown? or like ... in the list of 7 or so new ones that i expect you are familiar with by now ;)

can you describe the nature of the beast? loud? acoustic? another neil young-esque number? adore-era feel or something along the lines of home/winterlong?

Leaving lane is leaving lament

New song added after peace+love:
99 floors
(Billy solo acoustic guitar/harmonica transitioning to full band)

cool! so billy's inspired again eh.

i must have listened to peace+love at least 20 times today

(Billy solo acoustic guitar/harmonica transitioning to full band)

TWO GALLANTS!!

:rockon:
:the hellicopter:

99 floors is quiet/slow throughout, fyi... It is not another superchrist :)
---markpregen

99 floors is a nice song title...

99 floors is quiet/slow throughout, fyi... It is not another superchrist :)
---markpregen

there are not words for how eager i am to hear superX

I am impressed that they finally broke the starzzero tradition.. Starzcherub instead

Leaving lane is leaving lament

What did it say on the monitor - "Leaving Lane" or "Leaving Lament"? You guys have made this same "mistake" twice now, maybe it isn't a mistake?

Hahaha their is a long line to the mens bathroom but no line for the girls. I have 3 or 4 video tapers in my balcony

that does not happen often.

What did it say on the monitor - "Leaving Lane" or "Leaving Lament"? You guys have made this same "mistake" twice now, maybe it isn't a mistake?

what a whiner.

What did it say on the monitor - "Leaving Lane" or "Leaving Lament"? You guys have made this same "mistake" twice now, maybe it isn't a mistake?

yeah dude, cause the titles of new songs are almost always static and unchanging. amirite?

It's probably just a "predictive text" problem with that Blackberry. Haha

what a whiner.
WHAT A WIENER.

now i'm hungry

I believe even spfc (currently down) lists it as leaving lane/leaving lament.. Billy has used varying new song titles.. The monitor is NOT easy to read, and it only shows the first 10-12 characters for each song.. So you can imagine it would be hard to distinguish between lame or lane.. Sp.com will post the setlist sometime in december so you can verify it then :)

Billy nicked his finger during superchrist which I think turned it into a better performance than last night (more anger)... Seemed longer too

I think this is the longest billy has avoided talking to the crowd.. He has not said a word..

Now playing: 33
----markpregen

Bwbw
Tarantula
Today
Hummer
Shame
Thatstheway
Heavynetalmachine
Encore1
Death from above
Silverfuck
Encore2
No surrender
Gossamer

To sheila was full band electric

is that the first time to sheila was full band?

is that the first time to sheila was full band?

no but first time it was fully electric if i recall?

I am so tierd

I am so tierd

i read this quick and thought you said "why am i so tired" as in they were playing the song and i may have peed a little :blush:

me too. i was midstream anyhow though, so no biggie

i lol'd

me too. i was midstream anyhow though, so no biggie
do you think those trout would agree?

probably, they tend to go with the flow this time of the year. springtime'd be a differn't story likely

well it's always spring somewhere. but whatever gets you through the night, man.

well i wasn't midstream anywhere else other than right here now was i

you know what gets me though the night?

So does anyone think they will bring other songs out (Everlasting gaze, Ava Adore, TEITBITE, Eye,) etc etc or what? I'm thinking the setlist will change a lot by the time the actual city-to-city tour begins

I dunno but Billy teased TEG and Ava Adore at one of the Ashville shows...so I don't know if that means anything...he still knows how to play them...

ahem.

no, i do not know what gets you through the night, wHATcOLOR. wHATcOLOR, what gets you through the night?

we need supercrist!

i have no idea. i was hoping you knew since you brought it up.

whatever gets you thru the night, it's alright... it's alright

Used my wallet as a tripod to run to the restroom. Death from above does not need me

k

did u film like supercrist and stuff?

did u film like supercrist and stuff?

no reason that he wouldn't. he's filming the entire shows. he just left his camera on during DFA and went to bathroom, it sounds like

just one of life's many'd mysteries, i guess.

Used my wallet as a tripod to run to the restroom


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*yoink!*

Ok the encore was dfa and then muzzel. End of show

o...alright...well upload supachrist!

Their are a few people maybe 150 people are chanting for more

you can't hear me, but i am among them!

hm...well i suppose the band should do more lest they be thoguht of as mean spirited drug addicts...

MORE!MORE!MORE!MORE!MORE!MORE!MORE!MORE!MORE!MORE<balls>!MORE!MORE!MORE!MORE!MORE!MORE!MORE!MORE!MORE!MORE !

they aint gonna come back out (most likely)

it's your fault if they don't.

ight sry

So no Silverfuck, no Gossamer, and show over at 12:30AM??

The 7/18 crowd made it happen even when Billy was backstage puking!!! Come on 7/25 fans!!!!

Billy saw stalker Monte leave to go to the bathroom, assumed the show was bad and stopped early. Tsk, tsk, Monte. No going to the bathroom in the future. You singlehandedly deprived everyone at the show, way to go. ;)

eh...i'm goin to bed...

Billy could be doing the post-show interview right now... or perhaps in 20 mins...

Ok billy was mad! Like super mad! Frenchy can say more about this.

Prehaps I am taking this way to personal, but I blame myself. I think Corgan really isn't too excited about me being at the shows. If he asked me not to come I would forfit my tickets.

I am kind of disguraged about going to more shows.

Prehaps I am taking this way to personal, but I blame myself. I think Corgan really isn't too excited about me being at the shows.
what???

Super mad? :(

What did you ask him tonight? Or is he just pissed that you're at every post-show interview?

I don't know what you've really done to annoy him or freak him out at these shows (besides being at all of them)

Billy did not do a post-show interview.. just barely waved and jumped in his vehicle and took off

Peace and love
99 floors
With every light
Tonight tonight
Starz
Cherub
Starla
Superchrist
Doomsday clock
Neverlost
United states
33
Leaving lane
To sheila
Blue skies bring tears
Bwbw
Tarantula
Today
Hummer
Shame
Thatstheway
Heavynetalmachine
Encore1
Death from above
Muzzle

added to setlist: Muzzle
cut from setlist: Silverfuck, Encore 2: No Surrender, Gossamer

personally, I would have rather heard some Silverfuck over Muzzle.. oh well

btw, when the lights came up after Muzzle a decent sized group remained and were cheering and clapping, etc.. but then they put the big black cover over Jimmy's drums.. and finally started clearing everyone out a few minutes later.. so at least we tried.. but yeah it was a smaller contingent than the crowd on 7/18 who made the lights turn off again. :)

I think it sounds more like Billy was mad more at the venue or something, not the fans. Bands usually take it as a compliment when people follow them around a tour... And IF MonteDS is a stalker, at least he's not a voyeur. I mean the guy shows up, watches the show, and afterwards asks some questions - that's not only to be expected but isn't that all a band can ask for? It's only a little extraordinary enthusiasm if you ask me. What might be abnormal here, is the band having to go out and bring their own PA 'cause the one at the venue sucks... or maybe they're under a strict time-limit every night, hence the black cover over the drums?

*sigh* goodnight.

i will post videos in the morning

Thanks for the info Mark

Billy should "Bring the Light" to cheer himself and the city of SF up. I just watched the "Peace and Love" from 7/24. I can't believe how down on the city he is. Yes, there are a lot of bums, but is that really killing your whole inspiration to play music?

What might be abnormal here, is the band having to go out and bring their own PA 'cause the one at the venue sucks... or maybe they're under a strict time-limit every night, hence the black cover over the drums?

There may be a time limit but it's not exactly "strict". Most shows they play 10PM-1AM (or 1:05-1:10).

Can Mark tell more about the PA? The sound the first show 7/15 was kinda bad, but 2nd and 3rd shows I thought it was much better. Louder bass now Mark said...

So what the hell happened? You sound like you're referring to a specific incident from tonight Monte.

There may be a time limit but it's not exactly "strict". Most shows they play 10PM-1AM (or 1:05-1:10).

Can Mark tell more about the PA? The sound the first show 7/15 was kinda bad, but 2nd and 3rd shows I thought it was much better. Louder bass now Mark said...

yeah they stopped playing maybe 12:20am tonight.. way early

yeah all I know is the speakers on the right side were totally different as of last night.. and the sound was much louder... the sound was actually louder last night than tonight, causing the fillmore staff to actually walk around handing out earplugs last night.. but my friend commented that Billy sounded pretty bad on That's the Way

I'm no sound expert, so maybe someone who is can comment further

So what the hell happened? You sound like you're referring to a specific incident from tonight Monte.

Billy barely said a word to the audience, and just seemed to be going through the motions.. we had the impression that he was in a bad mood tonight.. but there was no specific incident.. unless Billy was upset that the opening band lead singer fell off the stage.. haha

Prehaps I am taking this way to personal, but I blame myself. I think Corgan really isn't too excited about me being at the shows. If he asked me not to come I would forfit my tickets.

I am kind of disguraged about going to more shows.Billy barely said a word to the audience, and just seemed to be going through the motions.. we had the impression that he was in a bad mood tonight.. but there was no specific incident..
both quotes don't really match, in my opinion.

is monty a crazy wacko, thinking that it must have something to do with his presence if billy isn't in the mood?

or did something happen?

both quotes don't really match, in my opinion.

is monty a crazy wacko, thinking that it must have something to do with his presence if billy isn't in the mood?

or did something happen?

The kid is probably taking things too seriously/personally. There is such a thing as apophany.

The kid is probably taking things too seriously/personally. There is such a thing as apophany.
i dont know about that

We should start a petition for Billy to do a retrospective blog of these residencies, like his other one, he can reveal all of the crazy shit that's been going on.

Imagine him receiving a petition from "Netphoria" - what would his reaction be? Laugh and burn it?

Backstage, after the show, Billy seemed really depressed and was complaining... something about the magic is gone.


(yeah, it could have been "even Monte was gone...")

ah, i see. another breakdown. looks like courtney wasn't joking when they interviewed her at that festival. (http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=4OM0UYebij0)

burnout

i bet he starts cancelling shows ;)

Backstage, after the show, Billy seemed really depressed and was complaining... something about the magic is gone.


(yeah, it could have been "even Monte was gone...")

I saw that coming... From each of the 2007 live performances I saw I got the impression Billy is not really into it, allthough the performances are great. He just does not seem to enjoy himself up on stage.

He just does not seem to enjoy himself up on stage.
kinda like his tfe tour. i bet he hated it even before it started.

Lol, this is great, just two months into a comeback tour and we've already got Billy giving impressions that he's pissed, "burnt out," and doesn't "feel the magic" anymore! All I know is he seemed to be in a good mood and enjoying the shows I saw in person (Asheville Shows 3 & 4), and I'm glad I decided to go to Asheville rather than San Fran. Damn, I should check into Ticketmaster to make sure that if the tour's cancelled I can atleast get my money back on the tickets...I'm sure they have a "service fee" for refunds. Haha :hanging:

Lol, this is great, just two months into a comeback tour and we've already got Billy giving impressions that he's pissed, "burnt out," and doesn't "feel the magic" anymore!
he'll get over it.

the "just two months in the tour" is probably a bad way to look at it. i bet he had breakdowns while recording the album too.

some pretty interesting info here. Thanks for all the info Monte. It has been a pleasure reading your updates. I saw three shows at the Orange Peel. night 5,8,9. I think part of it honestly is his own fault. The fans have been ready buying all the tickets showing up early digging the three hour shows. Even despite the fact he didnt really give us what we thought when the press release was announced. I could feel the energy start to change around night 8 when i went. We were all in the line laughing about how there was noway in hell we would get any new oldies not played. All we could hope for was some of the new acoustic songs etc....Kind of like the air had been let out. I honestly dont understand what the point of booking all of these shows was. I mean Billy just seems to really miss oppurtnuitys sometimes. I honestly think its a shame he worried about sales so much also. Its becoming annoying now. I mean what the hell is the point of playing 12 shows somewhere when your going to play the same 28 songs. It just makes no sense. I wanted to catch as many shows this fall but if this doesnt change i may just hit one. Maybee if he had delivered on his message about the runs he would have people beating down the doors to get in each night if there about 100 or so songs being played. Which in turn might inspire him more. Of course i dont know. I think he just needs to focus on his music and quit worrying about all the bullshit he worries about.

Hopefully he just meant the magic is gone IN SAN FRAN. I think that's the case.

I got most of the show in 720p but the battery of my camera died after 45mns, ugh... Anyways, here are some videos from tonight:

Peace and Love - http://youtube.com/watch?v=s69UUNI583w
Superchrist - http://youtube.com/watch?v=t4Afq26MxeM

-Christophe

some pretty interesting info here. Thanks for all the info Monte. It has been a pleasure reading your updates. I saw three shows at the Orange Peel. night 5,8,9. I think part of it honestly is his own fault. The fans have been ready buying all the tickets showing up early digging the three hour shows. Even despite the fact he didnt really give us what we thought when the press release was announced. I could feel the energy start to change around night 8 when i went. We were all in the line laughing about how there was noway in hell we would get any new oldies not played. All we could hope for was some of the new acoustic songs etc....Kind of like the air had been let out. I honestly dont understand what the point of booking all of these shows was. I mean Billy just seems to really miss oppurtnuitys sometimes. I honestly think its a shame he worried about sales so much also. Its becoming annoying now. I mean what the hell is the point of playing 12 shows somewhere when your going to play the same 28 songs. It just makes no sense. I wanted to catch as many shows this fall but if this doesnt change i may just hit one. Maybee if he had delivered on his message about the runs he would have people beating down the doors to get in each night if there about 100 or so songs being played. Which in turn might inspire him more. Of course i dont know. I think he just needs to focus on his music and quit worrying about all the bullshit he worries about.

I agree that it seemed like it was that last week of shows in Asheville that the excitement of the whole residency thing started to fizzle, both down there in Asheville and on the board here. I thought the first 4 shows of the residency tour lived up to the billing, Billy had come out with, I think, four new songs in those first four shows; not to mention it was during these first couple shows that they started playing "Starla" "Rotten Apples" "TAFH" and "Ode To No One". It probably would've been wise to spread out the premiering of these songs, because the entire sets were starting to seem old to everyone in the last couple AVL shows, and that was carried over to San Fran. I think that anyone who thought that these residencies were goin' to total like 100 different songs played was overly optimistic and very naive.

Oh yeah, like you mentioned, it's also been annoying to keep hearing the lecture from Billy to "buy the album and don't illegally download it!" I can understand him throwin' it out there during the Live Earth gig, but don't go bitchin' to the fans who have actually paid the money and done the travelling to see you play during the residency. I've got tickets to all three Philly shows in October, but I have to admit, with the way things are lookin', I might not bother goin' to all three.

Superchrist is good!

It reminds me of a short 6 minute Gossamer.

The residencies have been twice as long as they should of been. 5 dates in each venue would of been far more achievable, in terms of surprises and keeping it fresh. 11 dates in one venue is madness at this point - a year or two down the line, when the band are more comfortable with a bigger selection of songs to choose from would of been a more suitable time.

Still excited about the new songs - No Surrender and Peace and Love are both really nice. But Billy's stage banter is getting increasingly sour which is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. Don't know about you guys.

[QUOTE=Chuck=Zero] I think that anyone who thought that these residencies were goin' to total like 100 different songs played was overly optimistic and very naive.
QUOTE]

I guess i am naive. I expected after 7 years off it wasnt to much to expect. As it has been mentioned before many other bands pull it off even with new members. Examples being The Black Crowes, Pearl Jam etc...... The Crowes played 90 songs on a 7-8 night run at the Hammerstein with a new drummer. And they pulled it off. I think people on this board are kind of sticking their head in the sand if they think it comes down to not being able to learn the stuff etc...Look at that new reworked Heavy Metal Machine. Its Billy being Billy bottom line. I think he truly enjoys being very difficult with things like this. Almost like he knows that what we want and he refuses to give us the pleasure of giving it to us. Which is his right as an artist. As a fan i want him to do what feels right and what gets him off each night. Thats what makes him unique is how difficult and hard to read he is. And i totally respect that. If this is how he wants the runs remembered so be it. But again he seems to focus on revolution, great shows, sales, excitement but he doesnt help his cause by pulling what he pulled with these residencys. Hes an interesting character and i keep coming back to see whats next although im begining to lose interest in following these shows.

Having said all that of course Gossamer is insane and im dying to hear SuperChrist. I loved all the new acoustic songs in Asheville. Kind of ridiculous for me to be complaining really. I got to see my favorite band 15 feet from Billy 3 nights for 3 hours for $20 a pop.

[QUOTE=Chuck=Zero] I think that anyone who thought that these residencies were goin' to total like 100 different songs played was overly optimistic and very naive.
QUOTE]

I guess i am naive. I expected after 7 years off it wasnt to much to expect. As it has been mentioned before many other bands pull it off even with new members. Examples being The Black Crowes, Pearl Jam etc...... The Crowes played 90 songs on a 7-8 night run at the Hammerstein with a new drummer. And they pulled it off. I think people on this board are kind of sticking their head in the sand if they think it comes down to not being able to learn the stuff etc...Look at that new reworked Heavy Metal Machine. Its Billy being Billy bottom line. I think he truly enjoys being very difficult with things like this. Almost like he knows that what we want and he refuses to give us the pleasure of giving it to us. Which is his right as an artist. As a fan i want him to do what feels right and what gets him off each night. Thats what makes him unique is how difficult and hard to read he is. And i totally respect that. If this is how he wants the runs remembered so be it. But again he seems to focus on revolution, great shows, sales, excitement but he doesnt help his cause by pulling what he pulled with these residencys. Hes an interesting character and i keep coming back to see whats next although im begining to lose interest in following these shows.

It's like he gets off on being withholding.

Having said all that of course Gossamer is insane and im dying to hear SuperChrist. I loved all the new acoustic songs in Asheville. Kind of ridiculous for me to be complaining really. I got to see my favorite band 15 feet from Billy 3 nights for 3 hours for $20 a pop.

At the risk of sounding fangrrl, how could we who are enthused about SP2, with the release of QAOS & AD2 and with the new songs/developments to older songs, pass this enthusiasm/support onto the band ... without coming off crazy stalker-like? *don't read into that Monte, I'm sure you're fine. Billy's had a worse than you follow him around, I'm sure.*

But Billy's stage banter is getting increasingly sour which is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. Don't know about you guys.

I don't know what's happening... thanks to internet technology we can now know the exact moment Billy has one of his meltdowns (which is frequent). I always thought the old Billy stories were false.... but I guess thanks to YouTube, you can see it the next day...

It's 2007 man, not 1995.... MTV doesn't play videos, people don't buy CD's and rap/hip-hop is what the youth of today listen to... be glad people travel the country to see your shows.

Yeah but I wish Billy didn't care about that stuff so much. Tour, play good music, be moderately successful, release material, enjoy it! Instead he puts far too much pressure on himself. When I heard him mockingly say "Yeah, it's all about the music", urgh.

I don't think this is a reaction to the bad audiences or SF, I think you can even hear it on Zeitgeist. And I don't wanna talk bad about the album, because I really like it but Billy does not seem to enjoy the whole reunion.
Mabe he wanted to have his dreams back, but they just haven't returned.

that Billy Corgan sure is a gloomy gus.


(words first spoken by my grandma in 1994.)

To me Billys most confusing attribute is how much weight he places on the "industry" and "sales" WHO GIVES A FUCK! He of all people should "get" that and i have a hard time undestanding why he obsesses over it. Even on Machina he ranted about Britney Spears selling more albums than him etc...Billy shouldnt need those thing to validate his music. This really makes me wonder how big and intense his ego truly might be. Yeah maybee now that he is a few months into this hes just bored getting on stage and running through Hummer night after night. The magic just isnt there for him doing it. I cant imagine what it must be like to have played all the shows he has played esp on MCIS and then try and recapture that crack hit he got back then. I just think hes searching for that feeling and cant quite get there anymore i dont know.

Ok billy was mad! Like super mad! Frenchy can say more about this.

Prehaps I am taking this way to personal, but I blame myself. I think Corgan really isn't too excited about me being at the shows. If he asked me not to come I would forfit my tickets.

I am kind of disguraged about going to more shows.


aww Monte don't take this to heart, I'm sure Billy has no problem with you being at

the shows and probably really appreciates it, after all he's always saying that he wants

the hardcore fans to go to his shows, you know, not the ones who are going to be at

the bar all night, talking during the set, yelling their requests, booing, throwing shit,etc.

I think Billy just lets the critics, album sales, reviews, and all that other negative bullshit

affect him too much, and no matter how much he says he doesn't care about all that,

it clearly does have an impact on him, which is unfortunate.

p.s. thanks for the updates and videos :) and I hope you don't decide to give up your tix.

I got most of the show in 720p but the battery of my camera died after 45mns, ugh... Anyways, here are some videos from tonight:

Peace and Love - http://youtube.com/watch?v=s69UUNI583w
Superchrist - http://youtube.com/watch?v=t4Afq26MxeM

-Christophe

ooh yeah superchrist ftw! that was fucking unbelievable

Superchrist is a facemelter.

I went to shows 3 and 4 at Asheville. Seems like he had fun with it for 5-6 nights and then got tired of it.

SP has never been good at varying setlists. He gets stuck on songs and doesn't seem interested in playing anything else. Hummer is a good example. I like Hummer, but why all of a sudden are they playing it? It wasn't a live show staple before now.

I just can't wrap my head around the fact that they have SO MANY good songs that people would love to hear and they don't play them. Hell, you could make a whole setlist of fan favorites that haven't been played yet.


At this point it's pretty obvious that Billy likes being a super star. He wants to sell albums. He wants to be #1. He may never be happy again at this rate, because he seems pretty deflated about Zeitgeist's sales, which were about as good as any outside observer could have expected.


BTW, Monte. Just because BC had a bad day shouldn't reflect anything on you. You're doing an unbelievable service to the fan community. He should be buying your meals and paying you to upgrade your equipment.

Given that there's really no other hard rock band charting well these days, don't know why Corgan would be too surprised. No one is doing extremely well at the moment. Don't see how that would cause a meltdown. It's clear that he hasn't liked the vibe in San Fran since getting there.....it's probably like Asheville and just really weighing on him. But that's just an assumption.

in short: we don't know what's happening in the background guys.

billy was enjoying himself the first few nights in san fran for sure.
dunno what happened, everyone has a bad night

I think they could try playing without stage lights, just leave the house lights on,
i think stage lighting is a weight on tonnes of current touring bands, not only does it limit what songs they can play and limit how they play them but it instills a sense of repetition to the song performances otherwise nonexistent.

y'gotta point there rock'y.

OK I didn't read all of the last page yet, but if Billy is disillusioned in SF, release the secret Chicago plans! We'll cheer you up pla!!

(See you Monday in SF)

not to mention it'd be cheap as fuck. lights and people that run them don't go cheap. and like ole davy lee roth said, if you can't do it with just one light bulb, you shouldn't do it.

Backstage, after the show, Billy seemed really depressed and was complaining... something about the magic is gone.


(yeah, it could have been "even Monte was gone...")
That sounds terrible... :unhappy:

I got most of the show in 720p but the battery of my camera died after 45mns, ugh... Anyways, here are some videos from tonight:

Peace and Love - http://youtube.com/watch?v=s69UUNI583w
Superchrist - http://youtube.com/watch?v=t4Afq26MxeM

-Christophe


wait u recorded in 720p and what did u use to encode this video? it looks like 720 pixels... i think u made this a WMV. youtube suggests to use divx

has the 99 floors video been posted yet?

Any chance we get a boot with just the new tunes? :) all together?

Any chance we get a boot with just the new tunes? :) all together?
that's unlikely but
http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=144818

that url has what we have so far ... at least in audio
there are some video's available... just not there :P

has the 99 floors video been posted yet?


i am working on that now
but let me tell u
these songs are getting too long 99 floors = 8 mins

i am working on that now
but let me tell u
these songs are getting too long 99 floors = 8 mins

yikes, i can't wait till billy writes an acoustic jam that's gossamer length complete with the alien space cows calling through time and space to each other for 15 minutes.




i'd still probably listen to it 30 times despite that though

HOLY FUCK SUPERCHRIST IS AWESOME. I see it getting better from here (i.e. more lyrics/insane solos) Ahhhh I want to see this song develop more. Sooooo good!

http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/gallery/pics/sf_7_25.jpg

To Sheila full band electric was the only thing worth seeing

Here we are! almost done, but not really. starting the thread from my home pc. i am one my way to the venue now


" i am one" my way to the venue now?

looks like someone has had way too much sp exposure lately. if there was such a thing

that Billy Corgan sure is a gloomy gus.


(words first spoken by my grandma in 1994.)
ah thats priceless :rofl:

http://www.Photo-Host.org/img/704075dinner_setlist_fillmore_night_7_wed_july_25_ large.jpg (http://www.Photo-Host.org)

i am working on that now
but let me tell u
these songs are getting too long 99 floors = 8 mins




awesome thanks a lot...

http://www.Photo-Host.org/img/704075dinner_setlist_fillmore_night_7_wed_july_25_ large.jpg (http://www.Photo-Host.org)

Holy Christ......$13 nachos????

Holy Christ......$13 nachos????

Billy negotiated a cut on the nacho sales with the Fillmore

Holy Christ......$13 nachos????

or $16 if you get guacamole

To Sheila full band electric was the only thing worth seeing


lol don't go to 13 shows in a row then.

lol don't go to 13 shows in a row then.

Hahaha, yeah....I think it'd start to get old for anybody if they went to that many shows in such a short amount of time.

Still....I appreciate all the stuff you're doing for us, Monte.

Yeah i do like the tape'n and the updates. But have a coke and a smile.

Nice. 10$ for a ceaser salad, +4$ if you want to add chicken.

11$ for a garden burger hah.

lol don't go to 13 shows in a row then.


To his credit. the original press release said old classics/new songs day of etc.

superchrist is like united states and silverfuck combined

ya, it does sound pretty great. i hope it gets fleshed out a little more.

wait u recorded in 720p and what did u use to encode this video? it looks like 720 pixels... i think u made this a WMV. youtube suggests to use divx

Well, those are youtube videos. Everything you upload on there will make it look like you recorded it from a vcr. The originals obviously look much better, I'll seed a torrent once I get all of them processed.

And here's 99 floors:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2ZIiY7I_G84

i fell asleep i am encoding my version of 99 floors in a sec w/ synced audio

Christophe where did u film from

i fell asleep i am encoding my version of 99 floors in a sec w/ synced audio

Christophe where did u film from

I was on the balcony, the one right in front of the bar, so I stole that fillmore food flyer too :)

I wish I knew Frenchy was here, I know him a little bit from act4 and the french sp guild. You guys were in that VIP section, right?

i was in the shirt and tie.

i was in the closest balcony section before the curtain. I tape there each and every nite. did you not zoom in at all during your shows?

did you record in 4x3 using 720p?

i was in the shirt and tie.

i was in the closest balcony section before the curtain. I tape there each and every nite. did you not zoom in at all during your shows?

did you record in 4x3 using 720p?

Ah, well I was right at the other balcony. It's all recorded in 16x9 in 1280x720 on a sd card, I tried to zoom a bit on some songs but since I wasn't seated it was real hard to keep a steady picture, even with the cam stabilizer. Also that camera isn't that great in low lights, so there's all those washed out colors especially during movements...

why did u record to an SD card if it is HD 720p camera?

w/ HD video the low light issue isn't that bad.

sorry maybe i am too picky... :(

Monte is a perfectionist.

here is my 99 floors version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh-JBKYtQ7A

why did u record to an SD card if it is HD 720p camera?

Cause it's the only thing it records to? Dude, let it go, it's crap quality, I'll try to make it better next time just for you :)

wait is this a digital camera?

yep, sanyo xacti hd2

o, ok. never mind thought it was a regular camera.

To Sheila full band electric was the only thing worth seeing

Did Corgan's mood get you down that much Monte? Or have you just seen them too many times this week?

To Sheila full band electric was the only thing worth seeing

well, lets make sure we're clear here...

typically, billy has been ending the acoustic sets by keeping his acoustic guitar while the rest of the band joins him for To sheila.

so when you say full band electric, are you saying billy ditched his acoustic guitar and picked up an electric guitar? or do you just mean the rest of the band joined him like usual?

i just want to make extra special sure....

Did Corgan's mood get you down that much Monte? Or have you just seen them too many times this week?

he's been to too many shows in a single weak. adequate spread is an important thing.

Billy negotiated a cut on the nacho sales with the Fillmore

keep dreaming...those are standard filmore prices.

yikes, i can't wait till billy writes an acoustic jam that's gossamer length complete with the alien space cows calling through time and space to each other for 15 minutes.




i'd still probably listen to it 30 times despite that though

Yeah he did in 2001... it's called Girl With the Cruel Face.

Billy was indeed playing an electric guitar on To Sheila last night.

Maybe I'm burned out too, but I agree with Monte. It was the weakest show of the ones I've seen (I've only missed 7/16 so far). Something was clearly bothering Billy (more than the "I'm not feelin' SF" thing he's going through) and it had an impact on the performance.

Billy was indeed playing an electric guitar on To Sheila last night.

awesome. thanks for confirming.

7/16 was the best show for sure other than santa cruz where the setlist made the crowd happy and crazy.
Last nights crowd was one of the better crowds. Less people yelling for songs then normal.
I am sure people were yelling for songs. But I am in the balcony. So if I can hear it, then it is real bad.
Come on Aug 2nd!!! Too much billy + too much waiting in line equals sucide
Not really, but I want to rest in peace.

Too much billy + too much waiting in line equals sucide

lol, hang in there Monte

Hey I know how to add some enjoyment for myself when I see the last 3 SF shows -- I'm not watching the Superchrist video now! I'll have my face melted live, thank you very much!

Billy was indeed playing an electric guitar on To Sheila last night.

I'm trying to imagine what he was doing. The versions with him on acoustic and Jeff on electric are just fantastic. Same for "With Every Light". Go Jeff!!

[QUOTE=Travpumpkin]

It's like he gets off on being withholding.

i get the reference...and i like it!

i returned it from whence it came.

i wonder if by the time the fall tour rolls around they will be playing any of the newly written songs with a more pumpkins-like feel and electric

Roll call for tomorrow's show, GO!!!

me :erm:

:rockon:
:the helicopter:

do you eat dinner there? does markpregan? waht time do you guys eat?

Just go there early and get a nice person to save you a spot in line and say you have medical reasons or some bullshit (which you may have anyway)

[QUOTE=Wasabi]

i get the reference...and i like it!

i returned it from whence it came.

:) *runs to watch some more AD*

oh yeah i meant to comment on that reference too. nice one

:rockon:
:the helicopter:

do you eat dinner there? does markpregan? waht time do you guys eat?

monte doesn't buy food there.. I usualy try to get food sometime before 9pm, so I can check out the opening act and also be free to get the setlist 930-10pm.. but if the menu doesn't have anything interesting I may not get food (only happened 1-2 nights). in any case, look for us in the balcony (I'm sure you can find Monte).. I'll get there sometime after 8p

I'm interested...why do you wear a shirt and tie to a rock concert, Monte? I understand how LDSers like to maintain a distinct and professional appearance for their everyday public relations, etc....but do you just genuinely enjoy this standard of dress? Mind, it would make you insanely easy to spot! ;)

Billy can be so unsettled and moody. It really is trying being an SP fan sometimes...

With Every Light

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UohkgJeYURI

<img src="http://www.monteit.com/SP_tix.jpg">

monte doesn't buy food there.. I usualy try to get food sometime before 9pm, so I can check out the opening act and also be free to get the setlist 930-10pm.. but if the menu doesn't have anything interesting I may not get food (only happened 1-2 nights). in any case, look for us in the balcony (I'm sure you can find Monte).. I'll get there sometime after 8p


cool dudes. i'd like to grab a bite to eat with you if the timing works out. it might not (i've got a project i've really got to finish for work and have a meeting on it saturday morning), and also my gf asked me to have dinner with her and a friend before the show.. anyhow, i'll head up to the balcony to look for you guys. i'll recognize monte. do you watch the show from up there too, or downstairs?

i'm really looking forward to this show

cool dudes. i'd like to grab a bite to eat with you if the timing works out. it might not (i've got a project i've really got to finish for work and have a meeting on it saturday morning), and also my gf asked me to have dinner with her and a friend before the show.. anyhow, i'll head up to the balcony to look for you guys. i'll recognize monte. do you watch the show from up there too, or downstairs?

i'm really looking forward to this show

I roam around.. sometimes in the balcony, sometimes sitting in the restaurant area, sometimes on the front of the floor in the right corner.. once you find Monte tell him to call me.. sometimes I eat before the show too so I'm not hungry either.. but if the menu looks good enough i'll just eat a second dinner

but if the menu looks good enough i'll just eat a second dinner

elevensies? afternoon tea?!

keep dreaming...those are standard filmore prices.

maybe i should have encapsulated my post with < joke > < /joke >

Just got back from the 7.25 show after an 18 hour drive yesterday and a 10 hour drive today.

A few notes about the show.
1. First, Billy didnt say a word except between 2 songs near the end. He just said something about them being The Smashing Pumpkins.
2. During Shame, Billy added in the middle "its a motherfucking shame" like he really meant it, like he's just ... sad. Ya, he looked really sad for most of the show, though cracked a few smiles here and there. But ya, he mostly looked sad.
3. Peace and Love was absolutely beautiful. I went with 4 friends all of whom mentioned how emotional it is.
4. Right after Peace and Love, some asshole yelled "YOU'RE A FREAK!".......kinda got the feeling that sealed the deal re: not wanting to be here.
5. The crowd stayed for a LONG time after the lights went out, to the point where security got angry. We just kept cheering, and Gio, the head security guy, looked like he was gonna punch someone. He kept saying "the band is already changing, go home" and "go get your posters, go home." Eventually he just started yelling "GO HOME WE HAVE TO BRING THE GUITAR CASES IN. OK. BRING THE CASES IN."
6. Superchrist was a definite highlight, as was Heavy Metal Machine - a nice surprise I was not expecting (the enjoyment of it being surprising).
7. I stood in line for 11 hours with 4 friends who basically knew the singles and the new album, and they absolutely LOVED the show. My brother still cant get over how amazing the show was. They've been raving about it for 2 days.
8. I dont know why people keep saying Thats the Way isnt good live. I love it. It felt so much more grand.

Oh! ALso...
I cant believe no one mentioned the fact that the singer from Moving Units fell off the stage. He looked absolutely strung out, tripped on a drum mic, ended up sitting on Billy's amp to catch his balance. But then the amp toppled over, and the singer just came tumbling right in front of me, back first, between the stage and the barricade. He stayed on the ground for about...15 seconds and wobbled back up. :erm:

Also...I think 7.25 was the shortest show yet. Billy came on at around 10:10 and they were doen by 12:30.

Oh! ALso...
I cant believe no one mentioned the fact that the singer from Moving Units fell off the stage.

this was mentioned

this was mentioned

Oh. Must have missed it. Either way...its worth mentioning again. ;)

4. Right after Peace and Love, some asshole yelled "YOU'RE A FREAK!".......kinda got the feeling that sealed the deal re: not wanting to be here.


Wow. Some people are just fucking assholes.

Oh. Must have missed it. Either way...its worth mentioning again. ;)

That guy totally did way too much of something before the show. The whole performance was a gigantic train wreck.

i swear the drummer looked like jonathon melvoin
he was probably on just as much heroin

i swear the drummer looked like jonathon melvoin
he was probably on just as much heroin
:tapedshut

That guy totally did way too much of something before the show. The whole performance was a gigantic train wreck.

Seriously, the guy in the green shirt (techie I presume) pretty much holds the band together.