Well I kept on checking smashingpumpkins.com for updated tour dates and the only thing they ever listed was the Tuscon show. Then I thought to go over to spfc.org and they had a Phoenix show listed on 9/18. Well obviously now I'm way late in the game seeing as how the tickets supposedly starting selling on 7/14. The thing is, I don't see pumpkins listed anywhere on the dogde theater website. They aren't listed anywhere on the ticketmaster website either. However, when I check online for tickets elsewhere I see them being sold for about 130 dollars.
The date still isn't listed on the pumpkins website. Spfc.org also does not list the show as being sold out. Is there anywhere I can find these for a decent price?
silent_brian13
07-24-2007, 09:06 PM
its funny because the san diego show for the next day is the same way...
ticketmaster initially said the venue changed...i dont know though. i just got back to san diego after a long drive to san fran, so i hope they come here. either way im considering tuscon
n0cturne
07-25-2007, 04:06 PM
I've been checking for those, but only found the date confirmed on spfc, not in Dodge Theater website, nor sp.com, so... i don't know. I already got my tickets to Tucson, just in case.
Virex_Gaze6
07-25-2007, 04:57 PM
Yep dont know whats going on with Phoenix or San Diego's dates. Will be trying to get tix's to both as well.. Allready have the tucson tickets so I am good for that one
Was short and cold but eh will be seeing them in Phoenix so no complaints on my part
So we expect updates ;)
redbull
09-18-2007, 05:54 PM
who is opening?
markpregen
09-18-2007, 06:01 PM
at least its not raining today
JRiordan
09-18-2007, 08:28 PM
Venue capacity is approx 5000 according to http://phoenix.about.com/od/theatreandconcerts/p/dodge.htm
redbull
09-18-2007, 09:36 PM
Venue capacity is approx 5000 according to http://phoenix.about.com/od/theatreandconcerts/p/dodge.htm
gigantic bullshit. The capacity in the round is like 2600
jjbjjbjjb
09-19-2007, 01:09 AM
bump. Phx where are you?
MonkeyMan
09-19-2007, 01:22 AM
C'mon 3 hour show. I want to have hope for 3 hours in Detroit. :D
smashing0
09-19-2007, 01:29 AM
bump. Phx where are you?give them time to get home after the show :)
Virex_Gaze6
09-19-2007, 02:20 AM
hey guys.. ok show was better then Tucson and such was good times.. Sorry posting this at a internet cafe place thing in Tempe. Heading back to Tucson now.. Hate Driving will have a more complete update tomorrow..will also try to have the setlist up as well.. No new songs..
n0cturne
09-19-2007, 02:34 AM
I'll be waiting for the update. Wish I could've been there :(
Did they play all that, or did stuff get left out. It looks fucking awesome if they played all of that.
markpregen
09-19-2007, 12:00 PM
No Gossamer either? :(
We know it's coming...
gossamer would not be a new song.. well, new post-residency song.. :)
Rickpat12
09-19-2007, 12:39 PM
They didn't play Gossamer. I got that from the comments from the Setlist on SP's o-site. So I guess everything but Gossamer was played.
markpregen
09-19-2007, 12:45 PM
I like how this BlackSwan dude pre-emptively posted a comment about people complaining about the setlist.. that's awesome
http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/photos_2829
awesome
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 10:19 am - ocstat
thats the only word that can describe last night! they didnt play gossamar though, which kinda sucks, but glass and the ghost childern and heavy metal machine were both extended, had to of clocked in at 10+ minutes. and they played bring the light!
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Must be Hard..................
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 9:48 am - BlackSwan
To try to please all the fans and know which songs to play! seems someone always complains about something...........just enjoy the music people and enjoy the pumpkins........
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Who went...
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 9:31 am - theonespriggan
How was the show?
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MonkeyMan
09-19-2007, 01:05 PM
All but Gossamer? That's still pretty solid.
sighcadelic
09-19-2007, 01:12 PM
Here is a quick review from a friend who has seen many a pumpkin show dating back to the early 90's:
Yes, I did go to SP. It was much better than the Tucson show, but not great compared to previous SP shows. It feels more like the Billy Corgan band than SP, you know?
They did play for a long time. Around 2 hours and 15 minutes. No gossamar. Bummer. Really good solo acoustic version of 33. The band caught a little steam towards the end of the show. Doomsday Clock, Cherub rock, and heavy metal machine were all pretty good.
The show would be really good for most bands, but just OK for the pumpkins. My chief complaint would be that is just wasn't loud enough. A pumkins show should be deafening! Too many songs from the new album (I counted 7) as well.
They seriously miss James, and Ginger, while cute is not up to par with Darcy or Melissa. Billy seems a bit workmanlike at times. More later.
MonkeyMan
09-19-2007, 01:22 PM
Too many songs from the new album (I counted 7) as well.
I don't understand why people complain about this. Even if you don't like Zeitgeist that much, of course they're gonna play a lot from the new album. It's what they're trying to sell right now.
MonteLDS
09-19-2007, 05:17 PM
they are saving Gossamer for when i see them ;)
Netphorian Gadabout
09-19-2007, 05:19 PM
How long was the show total? From the looks of the setlist, I'm thinking 2 hours? Anyone who was there care to confirm?
MonkeyMan
09-19-2007, 05:28 PM
they are saving Gossamer for when i see them ;)
Nope, they're saving it for when I see them!!!
MonkeyMan
09-19-2007, 05:31 PM
How long was the show total? From the looks of the setlist, I'm thinking 2 hours? Anyone who was there care to confirm?
I wasn't there, but going on the assumption that the official set would take about 3 hours, probably a bit under 2 and 1/2 since Gossamer was left out.
MisterSquishyHalo
09-19-2007, 05:37 PM
Here is a quick review from a friend who has seen many a pumpkin show dating back to the early 90's:
Yes, I did go to SP. It was much better than the Tucson show, but not great compared to previous SP shows. It feels more like the Billy Corgan band than SP, you know?
They did play for a long time. Around 2 hours and 15 minutes. No gossamar. Bummer. Really good solo acoustic version of 33. The band caught a little steam towards the end of the show. Doomsday Clock, Cherub rock, and heavy metal machine were all pretty good.
The show would be really good for most bands, but just OK for the pumpkins. My chief complaint would be that is just wasn't loud enough. A pumkins show should be deafening! Too many songs from the new album (I counted 7) as well.
They seriously miss James, and Ginger, while cute is not up to par with Darcy or Melissa. Billy seems a bit workmanlike at times. More later.
This is a fan that expected to hear 1995 era pumpkins. Too bad he couldnt enjoy it for what it was.
markpregen
09-19-2007, 05:50 PM
How long was the show total? From the looks of the setlist, I'm thinking 2 hours? Anyone who was there care to confirm?Around 2 hours and 15 minutes..
MonkeyMan
09-19-2007, 05:56 PM
Apparently I need to work on my reading comprehension too, haha.
smashapumpkin
09-19-2007, 06:42 PM
he didnt like ginger cause shes not as good as darcy
ha!
i_adore_adore
09-19-2007, 07:26 PM
was d'arcy really all that bad a bassist?
I mean, really... can someone give me a youtube link of her screwing up? I know it's kinda accepted that she sucks, but I've never actually seen proof. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough.
Not to say she's a goddess on bass, but I've always thought she got the job done. Just like Ginger is doing... just like Melissa did...
It's not like SP bass lines are hard...
lapis
09-19-2007, 07:42 PM
was d'arcy really all that bad a bassist?
I mean, really... can someone give me a youtube link of her screwing up? I know it's kinda accepted that she sucks, but I've never actually seen proof. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough.
Not to say she's a goddess on bass, but I've always thought she got the job done. Just like Ginger is doing... just like Melissa did...
It's not like SP bass lines are hard...
For me, I think it's more the way she interacts with the band in studio, if you watch some studio footage like 666 sessions... at least, that's where I get the impression she wasn't all that great.
But I agree, SP bass lines are easy, and still good. In my opinion SP bass lines don't need to be complex for BC's song structures. D'arcy played her part well ;)
smashapumpkin
09-19-2007, 07:44 PM
darcy didnt suck she just never played out
i think melissa was better than darcy but melissa sounded horrible
redbull
09-19-2007, 08:44 PM
I think D'arcy just had better chemistry with the band than Melissa or Ginger.
i_adore_adore
09-19-2007, 08:48 PM
D'arcy's the greatest Pumpkin bassist ever, I think. She's just so friggin' cool.
I love Melissa as a solo artist, and she added something really cool to Hole, and to be honest I think she was great as a Pumpkin. She didn't try to be D'arcy, she was just herself. But it was a different energy.
And Ginger is seriously growing on me, especially after that KROQ web stream thing. She was rockin' that night.
markpregen
09-19-2007, 08:51 PM
Ginger has better chemistry with me
ZephZero33
09-20-2007, 12:09 AM
Why have they basically discarded Home, Fuck You, and TAFH now?
interestingly they only played home at the fillmore for the radio night.. guess monte hasn't posted any footage of that yet
Rickpat12
09-20-2007, 12:57 AM
Wow that Fuck You Video is awesome!
desertsky
09-20-2007, 02:23 AM
It was great seeing the Pumpkins again Tuesday night after that long 7 year hiatus. I hope they stick around for at least a couple more albums and tours this time around.
What was up with Dodge Theater security and their patdown searches? Didn't they know about the Pumpkins policy allowing cameras and audio/video taping? I did get a really nice audio recording of the show. But I was turned away my first time through the security checkpoint after the guy found the recording equipment in my pockets. I tried to explain to him the Pumpkins were allowing and encouraging recording and photography at all the shows, but he wasn't buying it. Either they weren't made aware of the policy, or they did know about it but overruled it. Anyway, after being turned away, I went to the nearest public restroom at a bar a couple blocks away and stuck the recording gear in a place they can't check during patdowns. Had no problem getting the equipment in the 2nd time through. I'm uploading the recording right now to the Live Music Archive. It'll take a few hours, so it should be ready for downloading/streaming in the morning. I'll start a new thread in the Music Trading section of this forum once it's ready.
markpregen
09-20-2007, 03:24 AM
in a place they can't check during patdowns.
ouch
Had no problem getting the equipment in the 2nd time through. I'm uploading the recording right now to the Live Music Archive. It'll take a few hours, so it should be ready for downloading/streaming in the morning. I'll start a new thread in the Music Trading section of this forum once it's ready.
This is a clip of the start of Home. I wanted to show to you people why i haven't released more footage because the sound is HORRIBLE. my camera records in AVC-HD which comes with the joys of an over sensitive mic that records in 5.1 Dolby Digital
JRiordan
09-20-2007, 11:06 AM
What was up with Dodge Theater security and their patdown searches? Didn't they know about the Pumpkins policy allowing cameras and audio/video taping? I did get a really nice audio recording of the show. But I was turned away my first time through the security checkpoint after the guy found the recording equipment in my pockets. I tried to explain to him the Pumpkins were allowing and encouraging recording and photography at all the shows, but he wasn't buying it. Either they weren't made aware of the policy, or they did know about it but overruled it.
SP certainly COULD be informing venues of their pro-taping stance, but I don't think they are doing it much if at all right now. Most jambands make it very clear that people will be taping, even using tall stands, and most venues are fine with it.
If I were planning to tape I'd probably print out the announcement from SP.com to support my case with security.
Before the Las Vegas show @ The Pearl, I emailed them about the taping policy, but it did not help much, since they turned away Monte's camera as "professional", and another person posted on here saying that he was videotaping from the back but had to stop briefly while security clarified it was OK.
Satur999
09-20-2007, 11:41 AM
I like how this BlackSwan dude pre-emptively posted a comment about people complaining about the setlist.. that's awesome
http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/photos_2829
awesome
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 10:19 am - ocstat
thats the only word that can describe last night! they didnt play gossamar though, which kinda sucks, but glass and the ghost childern and heavy metal machine were both extended, had to of clocked in at 10+ minutes. and they played bring the light!
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Must be Hard..................
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 9:48 am - BlackSwan
To try to please all the fans and know which songs to play! seems someone always complains about something...........just enjoy the music people and enjoy the pumpkins........
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Who went...
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 9:31 am - theonespriggan
How was the show?
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HE must be a studdmuffin ;)
Pretty cool fan interaction I thought... seems like a pretty good amount of people waited too. Billy looks akward, but think of the circumstances. Certainly looks more comfortable than earlier this year.