View Full Version : An answer to Billy's question...


Alison White
03-27-2002, 11:25 PM
Billy asked: "WAS THE MACHINA MYSTERY ALL FOR NOTHING?"


No. The Machina mystery was definitely NOT for nothing...it gave a lot of things to a lot of people, including you. The beauty of Machina, in my opinion, is the fact that it means something different for everyone, and like every great piece of art, every time you think about it or hear it you learn more and the meaning changes...constantly. It has banded a group of people together in trying to "solve" the mystery, regardless of their culture or creed...and because of its passion, intensity, and underlying simplicity, it has also flown right over some people's heads.

I can't say, of course, what it has done for you...but as we all know, everything is a learning experience, and everything has benefits and adds dimensions to our lives. I am proud of you for doing this...for putting your ass on the line...and I personally think you are very successful...for what true masterpiece gets no "bad press" and reviews? Look at Neitche...he was thought insane. And Le Corbusier?? Most people hated his architecture...until years later when they finally had the mental capacity and freedom to understand the beauty in its simplicity and symbolism...now one of his buildings, the Villa Savoye, is considered one of the top three buildings of the 20th century. When it was first built, however, it was laughed at...my point is that it always takes the public a long time to wrap their heads around and accept something that they're not used to...something that breaks the rules. But at the same time, breaking the rules is the most effective way to make changes in the long run.

As for the post about Billy's "blunders"...that was one of the cruelest and most ridiculous things I have ever read. Who are those of you who posted your insults to say anything about Billy on a personal level? How do you know why he did the things he did? And why in the HELL would anyone think that it was a mistake firing Jimmy???? Don't you guys know that firing Jimmy is what got him off drugs? Do you not understand that it probably saved his life? And can you honestly say that a band is more important than a human life?

So I will take this time, Billy, to congratulate you for a job well done...for sticking to what you wanted to do and going against the odds...and winning.


[This message has been edited by Alison White (edited 03-27-2002).]

Smiley
03-27-2002, 11:33 PM
When did Billy ask that?

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Travis Meeks
03-27-2002, 11:33 PM
shut the fuck up.
Billy has made a huge amount of mistakes, and so have all of us. I'm just asking what mistake he made has had the biggest impact on the band. And the machina 'mystery' was horrible, that is a given. I was like you once, but get off his nuts. Although he would like to be, he's not God.

Travis Meeks
03-27-2002, 11:36 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
Don't you guys know that firing Jimmy is what got him off drugs? </font>

and when exactly did the band tell you this?

Alison White
03-27-2002, 11:42 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Smiley:
When did Billy ask that?

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in the "when Billy Corgan posts here" thread

Travis Meeks
03-27-2002, 11:43 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
in the "when Billy Corgan posts here" thread</font>

lol....damn these o boarders WHY GOD CAN'T THEY JUST STAY THERE?!?!?!?!?!??!

Alison White
03-27-2002, 11:45 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Travis Meeks:
shut the fuck up.
Billy has made a huge amount of mistakes, and so have all of us. I'm just asking what mistake he made has had the biggest impact on the band. And the machina 'mystery' was horrible, that is a given. I was like you once, but get off his nuts. Although he would like to be, he's not God.</font>

Note that I never said he made no mistakes...just said that none of us know enough about what went on behind the scenes to judge them as such...and also note that I never, ever implicated that he was God...that's insane...and please refrain from telling me what he would like to be, since the only person who truly knows that is him.

GrungeGuy
03-27-2002, 11:46 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
in the "when Billy Corgan posts here" thread</font>
did you ever know that your my hero?

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Alison White
03-27-2002, 11:46 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Travis Meeks:
and when exactly did the band tell you this?</font>

This was highly publicized.

Travis Meeks
03-27-2002, 11:48 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
This was highly publicized.</font>

could it have been the guy that died in front of his eyes? you don't know shit, go away. Machina mystery sucked...maybe cuz darcy left.
check out www.smashingpumpkins.com (http://www.smashingpumpkins.com) and don't leave

Alison White
03-27-2002, 11:52 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Travis Meeks:
could it have been the guy that died in front of his eyes? you don't know shit, go away. Machina mystery sucked...maybe cuz darcy left.
check out www.smashingpumpkins.com (http://www.smashingpumpkins.com) and don't leave</font>

Don't tell me what I know or don't know. It is obvious that Jonathan Melvoin's death had a huge part in Jimmy's recovery as well. Everything in that situation contributed...

[This message has been edited by Alison White (edited 03-27-2002).]

Siamese Dreamer
03-28-2002, 12:07 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
Don't tell me what I know or don't know. It is obvious that Jonathan Melvoin's death had a huge part in Jimmy's recovery as well. Everything in that situation contributed...

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<FONT COLOR="RED">Good post, I agree fully, and fuck any bastard that tries to tell u different!!!</FONT>

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Travis Meeks
03-28-2002, 02:50 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Siamese Dreamer:


<FONT COLOR="RED">Good post, I agree fully, and fuck any bastard that tries to tell u different!!!</FONT>

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fuck you too, you're just as dumb

If It Feels Good, Do Me
03-28-2002, 03:01 AM
Leave Alison alone, dickheads. She made her points without attacking anyone or making any personal insults, and you will treat her with the same respect, or else. Only those of us who think on a level as high as Billy can truly understand the beauty of Machina story. The only reason that the rest of you bash it is becuase you cant figure it out, and that pisses you off. You're like little kids working on a puzzle. You cant figure out how the pieces go together, so you get mad and throw a fit and throw the pieces around.

Just because you're not intelligent enough to understand something doesn't mean you go around bashing it. Just accept the fact that you're human and move on.

New Art Rioter
03-28-2002, 03:07 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by If It Feels Good, Do Me:
Leave Alison alone, dickheads. She made her points without attacking anyone or making any personal insults, and you will treat her with the same respect, or else. Only those of us who think on a level as high as Billy can truly understand the beauty of Machina story. The only reason that the rest of you bash it is becuase you cant figure it out, and that pisses you off. You're like little kids working on a puzzle. You cant figure out how the pieces go together, so you get mad and throw a fit and throw the pieces around.

Just because you're not intelligent enough to understand something doesn't mean you go around bashing it. Just accept the fact that you're human and move on.</font>

Bad troll

If It Feels Good, Do Me
03-28-2002, 03:18 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
As for the post about Billy's "blunders"...that was one of the cruelest and most ridiculous things I have ever read. Who are those of you who posted your insults to say anything about Billy on a personal level? How do you know why he did the things he did? And why in the HELL would anyone think that it was a mistake firing Jimmy???? Don't you guys know that firing Jimmy is what got him off drugs? Do you not understand that it probably saved his life? And can you honestly say that a band is more important than a human life?</font>

I couldnt agree more. Jesus, are you idiots that bored now that you have to make a running list of all the mistakes that Billy has ever made, and then put in some kind of order? I'm sick of seeing this shit every single day. I never see any threads on here that praise Billy for what he's done or all the good he's done for the world, like the Adore charity tour and stuff. I'm not saying it should be all that, but it's not even 50/50. It's like 95/5. And that's just wrong.

This isn't the Billy Bitching board. I think the problem that most of you have with him is that he let you down after MCIS by not writing for the teenage generation anymore, and you felt betrayed. Well get over it, he's 35 now and he doesn't feel that way anymore.

I know all you Corgan bashers would like him to be 25 and severely depressed, angry, without religion and dirt poor again, but he's not anymore. He's not like you anymore, so fuck off and go listen to someone who is that type of profile. Leave us to our positive, uplifting and absolutely beautiful Zwan songs.

If It Feels Good, Do Me
03-28-2002, 03:21 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by New Art Rioter:
Bad troll</font>

Maybe you can't read, but you fit into my post perfectly, and Alison's as well. And your post here is completely meaningless. What did you hope to prove by posting "Bad troll"? At least post something of relevance. I seriously question the reason for the existence of some of you.

SmileOfTheShadow
03-28-2002, 03:29 AM
Nietzsche WAS insane though...what the hell are you talking about?

Lady of the Sacred Heart
03-28-2002, 05:06 AM
stop talking about shit

Lady of the Sacred Heart
03-28-2002, 05:12 AM
"but i HATE zwan, don't make me listen to them Danny, pleeeeease!!!!!"

"WTF?"

Lady of the Sacred Heart
03-28-2002, 05:25 AM
Leave us to our positive, uplifting and absolutely beautiful Zwan songs. [/B][/QUOTE]

Hey, I thought this was a Pumpkins board, not a fucking Zwan board where everybody tries to be cool and use "big words" like QUOTE: "You are Luxspur Matriana" (WTF?)
and write thigns like that trying to be as cool as Billy Corgan....

Lady of the Sacred Heart
03-28-2002, 05:28 AM
SHIT, WELL THAT WAS MEANINGLESS.

Lady of the Sacred Heart
03-28-2002, 05:31 AM
SHIT, I'M TALKING TO MYSELF AGAIN! SOMEBODY PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD!!

Nothing/everything
03-28-2002, 05:36 AM
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</td> <TD> <IMG SRC="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/icons/icon1.gif" BORDER=0 ALIGN=ABSCENTER> <FONT SIZE="1" color="#ffffff" face="Arial, Verdana">posted 03-27-2002 04:50 PM <A HREF="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getbio&UserName=Billy Corgan" target=_blank> <IMG SRC="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/profile.gif" BORDER=0 ALT="Click Here to See the Profile for Billy Corgan"></A> <A HREF="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi?action=email&ToWhom=Billy Corgan" target=_blank><IMG SRC="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/email.gif" BORDER=0 ALT="Click Here to Email Billy Corgan"></A> <A HREF="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/postings.cgi?action=editpost&forum=General+Chat+Message+Board&number=2&topic=0335161.cgi&ReplyNum=000000&TopicSubject=I|APO|m+old+school..."> <IMG SRC="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/edit.gif" BORDER=0 ALT="Edit/Delete Message"></A> <A HREF="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/postings.cgi?action=reply&forum=General+Chat+Message+Board&number=2&topic=033516.cgi&TopicSubject=I|APO|m+old+school...&replyto=0"><IMG SRC="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/quote.gif" BORDER=0 ALT="Reply w/Quote"></A> <a href="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/privatesend.cgi?sendto=Billy Corgan&subject=Re:+I|APO|m+old+school..." target="_blank"><img src="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/pmimages/pm.gif" border=0 height=17 alt="send a private message to Billy Corgan"></a> </FONT><HR><FONT SIZE="2" FACE="Arial, Verdana">Thank you very very much for your support.
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Lady of the Sacred Heart
03-28-2002, 06:15 AM
WOT SUPPORT? ZWAN SUCKS (BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE A GIRL)AND I'LL HATE YOU FOREVER FOR DISBANDING SP, BUT I GUESS YOU HAVE TO MOVE ON IN LIFE, DON'T WORRY, IT'S MY PROBLEM, NOT YOURS.........

The Gaddrow
03-28-2002, 07:00 AM
What the fuck is going on here? I've seen some great trolls, but this is taking shit to an entire new level.

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frenchy
03-28-2002, 07:46 AM
best SUPER TROLL ever !!!

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obscured01
03-28-2002, 08:35 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Lady of the Sacred Heart:
WOT SUPPORT? ZWAN SUCKS (BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE A GIRL)AND I'LL HATE YOU FOREVER FOR DISBANDING SP, BUT I GUESS YOU HAVE TO MOVE ON IN LIFE, DON'T WORRY, IT'S MY PROBLEM, NOT YOURS.........</font>



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Alison White
03-28-2002, 12:18 PM
Billy,

Whatever you choose to do and whenever you choose to do it, I stand behind you. I believe in you and am inspired by the fact that you refuse to allow the world's pre-cast stigma of musical art to mould your work...thank YOU.

smashingjj
03-28-2002, 12:26 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
Billy,

Whatever you choose to do and whenever you choose to do it, I stand behind you. I believe in you and am inspired by the fact that you refuse to allow the world's pre-cast stigma of musical art to mould your work...thank YOU.</font>

MODS! DO SOMETHING! THIS IS NETPHORIA GODDAMMIT!

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mommy_drank
03-28-2002, 12:27 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by frenchy:
best SUPER TROLL ever !!!

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damn! and i thought my cover of ava adore was a good troll http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/frown.gif but this thread just takes the cake

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Datura
03-28-2002, 12:35 PM
wow,this topic really made my day...thnx for all that laughing you caused.

-Cansun

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Aeroplane
03-28-2002, 01:56 PM
Alison White, do you have a shrine of BC and do you worship him? One of these days you're going to be let down, and then you'll be the psycho bitch queen who assassinated him. Good Troll, though.

Travis Meeks
03-28-2002, 02:24 PM
funny stuff kids

neopryn
03-28-2002, 02:30 PM
What a great thread

neopryn
03-28-2002, 02:32 PM
Welcome to the second page

*prays that its correct*

Aeroplane
03-28-2002, 02:33 PM
You are corrrrectuhhhh!!!

paranoid
03-28-2002, 02:59 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
Don't tell me what I know or don't know. It is obvious that Jonathan Melvoin's death had a huge part in Jimmy's recovery as well. Everything in that situation contributed...

[This message has been edited by Alison White (edited 03-27-2002).]</font>

And don't come round here talkin like you know everything. hypocrite.

as far as the "billy's blunders: Jimmy being fired" thing, you miss read that. the big mistake was firing him and CONTINUEING the damn toue with a half ass replacement a month after the incident. the firing may have saved jimmy's life, or it may not have. it's really not a contributing factor. He could have continued shootin up, seeing as he had loads of money and all of that spare time. maybe he did, who knows.

douche.

paranoid
03-28-2002, 03:02 PM
dear lord i just said "contributing factor"

IM MOVING UP IN MA VOCAB!

hereisnowhy
03-28-2002, 03:21 PM
So what's the ratio of trolls to actual people on netphoria now? 1:1?

There have been much more humorous trolls than this.

Mayfuck
03-28-2002, 04:34 PM
This is fucking awesome.

NegaBenji
03-28-2002, 06:25 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Mayfuck:
This is fucking awesome.</font>

I was just thinking along those lines

PkPhuoko
03-28-2002, 06:47 PM
hehe best post evar!

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</td> <TD> <IMG SRC="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/icons/icon1.gif" BORDER=0 ALIGN=ABSCENTER> <FONT SIZE="1" color="#ffffff" face="Arial, Verdana">posted 03-28-2002 06:54 PM <A HREF="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getbio&UserName=Billy Corgan" target=_blank> <IMG SRC="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/profile.gif" BORDER=0 ALT="Click Here to See the Profile for Billy Corgan"></A> <A HREF="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi?action=email&ToWhom=Billy Corgan" target=_blank><IMG SRC="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/email.gif" BORDER=0 ALT="Click Here to Email Billy Corgan"></A> <A HREF="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/postings.cgi?action=editpost&forum=General+Chat+Message+Board&number=2&topic=0335161.cgi&ReplyNum=000000&TopicSubject=I|APO|m+old+school..."> <IMG SRC="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/edit.gif" BORDER=0 ALT="Edit/Delete Message"></A> <A HREF="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/postings.cgi?action=reply&forum=General+Chat+Message+Board&number=2&topic=033516.cgi&TopicSubject=I|APO|m+old+school...&replyto=0"><IMG SRC="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/quote.gif" BORDER=0 ALT="Reply w/Quote"></A> <a href="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/privatesend.cgi?sendto=Billy Corgan&subject=Re:+I|APO|m+old+school..." target="_blank"><img src="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/pmimages/pm.gif" border=0 height=17 alt="send a private message to Billy Corgan"></a> </FONT><HR><FONT SIZE="2" FACE="Arial, Verdana">I hope you aren't becoming too attatched to the band. It is but a small cog in The Machine.</FONT>

Travis Meeks
03-28-2002, 07:04 PM
OHMIFUCK!!!!!!
BILY SPOKE TO US!!!!!
BILY WHAT CAN WE DO TO FOR YOU TO SHOW ARE DEVOTION????????????????????????????????????????

smux
03-28-2002, 10:25 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
Billy,

Whatever you choose to do and whenever you choose to do it, I stand behind you. I believe in you and am inspired by the fact that you refuse to allow the world's pre-cast stigma of musical art to mould your work...thank YOU.</font>

God you're a moron.

I feel better now, thanks.



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Siamese Dreamer
03-29-2002, 04:54 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by smux:
God you're a moron.

I feel better now, thanks.

[This message has been edited by smux (edited 03-28-2002).]</font>

<FONT COLOR="RED"> Leave her the fuck alone, this place needs more people like her and less like you, by that I mean more people who actually like and respect the band and want to post their opinions and discuss the band and less people who wanna pay out others and fucking disrespect everyone, whether it really is Billy or not, at least someone came in to bat for him, and told some of those fuckers to shut up!!!!!</FONT>

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frenchy
03-29-2002, 05:36 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Siamese Dreamer:
<FONT COLOR="RED"> Leave her the fuck alone, this place needs more people like her and less like you, by that I mean more people who actually like and respect the band and want to post their opinions and discuss the band and less people who wanna pay out others and fucking disrespect everyone, whether it really is Billy or not, at least someone came in to bat for him, and told some of those fuckers to shut up!!!!!</FONT>
<HR COLOR="RED">
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That's called the "o-board".

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Hazza
03-29-2002, 05:58 AM
This is pretty funny stuff.

consume
be fruitfull and multiply

Siamese Dreamer
03-29-2002, 06:26 AM
<FONT COLOR="RED">
Well if the Oboard is a place where people actually have the intelligence to post opinions and feelings, rather than than just flame each other, that sounds like a better place. </FONT>

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Marquis667
03-29-2002, 07:15 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by The Gaddrow:
I've seen some great trolls, but this is taking shit to an entire new level.

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This is a thread for the books

Sacred Age Of Innocence
03-29-2002, 07:17 AM
Ok I will be archiving this as well!

mommy_drank
03-29-2002, 11:59 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Siamese Dreamer:
<FONT COLOR="RED">
Well if the Oboard is a place where people actually have the intelligence to post opinions and feelings, rather than than just flame each other, that sounds like a better place. </FONT>

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then go there and take all your multiple personalities

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neopryn
03-29-2002, 12:04 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Siamese Dreamer:
<FONT COLOR="RED">
Well if the Oboard is a place where people actually have the intelligence to post opinions and feelings, rather than than just flame each other, that sounds like a better place. </FONT>

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Then please, go.

Aeroplane
03-29-2002, 02:40 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Marquis667: This is a thread for the books</font>
How would you know?

Marquis667
03-29-2002, 02:42 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Aeroplane:

How would you know?</font>

Is this something personal?


[This message has been edited by Marquis667 (edited 03-29-2002).]

smux
03-29-2002, 03:29 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Siamese Dreamer:
<FONT COLOR="RED"> Leave her the fuck alone, this place needs more people like her and less like you, by that I mean more people who actually like and respect the band and want to post their opinions and discuss the band and less people who wanna pay out others and fucking disrespect everyone, whether it really is Billy or not, at least someone came in to bat for him, and told some of those fuckers to shut up!!!!!</FONT>

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Which goes to show your a fucking moron as well. Here's the rub junior, everyone here likes the band/music, we just dont worship the people. Did you stop and think that the people that post things like "BSBT machina version sucks!" are actually posting their fucking opinion!? I realize that's pretty hard for people like you Alison and pretty much every oboarder to understand, but it's true. She "came to bat" for him huh,...dude it's a fucking message board. You posted on the threads, I didnt read you defending anyone, you were to busy going "Bolly? Is it You?" She posted her opinion, I posted mine. Now do us all a favor and run off to the oboard, were you and the other ignorants can live in bliss.

Reyngel
03-29-2002, 03:30 PM
Alison, you're just jealous that Billy Corgan posts here and not at the o-board. Guess what, he told us once that he thinks you're overweight, and wishes less fans like you would represent the band, because the "fugly cogs," as Billy told us, are the ones who destroyed the band's image. Now go away so he can do a reunion concert without you.

Nate the Grate
03-29-2002, 03:55 PM
it's like all of netphoria's newbies and oboard crossovers lumped together in one thread! convenient!

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Datura
03-29-2002, 04:12 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Nate the Grate:
it's like all of netphoria's newbies and oboard crossovers lumped together in one thread! convenient!

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I was just thinking about the same thing...this post must be archived...Two thumbs up!

-Cansun


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Alison White
03-29-2002, 04:32 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by smux:
everyone here likes the band/music, we just dont worship the people.

</font>

Respect and worship are two completely different things...

Travis Meeks
03-29-2002, 04:54 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
Respect and worship are two completely different things...

</font>

so are intelligence and stupidity

Aeroplane
03-29-2002, 04:58 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Marquis667: Is this something personal?</font>
No. Do you want it to be?

smux
03-29-2002, 05:28 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
Respect and worship are two completely different things...

</font>

That's true, but this:

<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
Billy,

Whatever you choose to do and whenever you choose to do it, I stand behind you. I believe in you and am inspired by the fact that you refuse to allow the world's pre-cast stigma of musical art to mould your work...thank YOU.</font>

Is so clearly worship it's almost scary. You can respect someone and still be critical of things they've done, or how they've acted. You have to realize that no one is judging him on a personal/private level, they're judging things he's said and done that have affected how him and the band are perceived.
To say that they shouldnt have fired Jimmy and gone on with the tour, doesnt mean "Fuck Jimmy" it means they could have postponed the tour indefinately and allowed him to get the help he needed, and then come back healthy. And dont give me that shit about the tour people pressuring them into keeping the tour up, if the damn Backstreet boys could stop for a while for one to get treatment, then the Pumpkins could have done it too.

diemented
03-29-2002, 05:59 PM
holy shit. everyone's fucking retarded.

Marquis667
03-29-2002, 06:34 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Aeroplane:
No. Do you want it to be?</font>

Depends on what you mean by that...

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failure
03-29-2002, 07:07 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Mayfuck:
This is fucking awesome.</font>



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todustiguess
03-30-2002, 12:41 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by diemented:
holy shit. everyone's fucking retarded.</font>

mommy_drank
03-30-2002, 01:09 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by diemented:
holy shit. everyone's fucking retarded.</font>

no, these people give retards like me a bad name

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Lady of the Sacred Heart
03-30-2002, 03:35 AM
i wanna just say sorry for all the shit i wrote back there, very sorry, but i meant it and i'm not taking it back.

Nothing/everything
03-30-2002, 02:52 PM
http://host14.hrwebservices.net/%7Emagicsc/zh/mess.be/forum/images/smiles/nopity.gif

doctor awkward
03-30-2002, 04:08 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by smashingjj:
MODS! DO SOMETHING! THIS IS NETPHORIA GODDAMMIT!

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todustiguess
03-30-2002, 07:37 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Lady of the Sacred Heart:
i wanna just say sorry for all the shit i wrote back there, very sorry, but i meant it and i'm not taking it back.</font>

WTF? if you meant it, why the fuck are you sorry you fuckin' dumb c*nt?

ah, who gives a shit anyway. i cant believe im wasting my time like this... *snarls*

Lady of the Sacred Heart
03-31-2002, 02:42 AM
shut your ******, i'm aloud to say anything i like (especially when i'm on one of my mental sprees, which i was at the time) and you are such a dumb fucking c*nt because you are contradicting yourself by spitting in my face then saying why am i doing this.....
you just made the same mistake i did wen you were yeling at me about it.....
(haha, double time fucking c*nt)

frail_and_bedazzled
03-31-2002, 06:57 AM
oh, and to clarify what someone posted about neitzsche being crazy...that's not the whole truth. he WENT crazy in his later years AFTER writing all his books after syphilis destroyed his mind and health. so there, yeah.

anyway, continue. i'm terribly confused yet oddly..titilated. ha. i said 'tit'.

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Marquis667
03-31-2002, 10:06 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Nothing/everything:
http://host14.hrwebservices.net/%7Emagicsc/zh/mess.be/forum/images/smiles/nopity.gif </font>

that's pure fuckin genius


np: United center 2000 SIVA

Rens
03-31-2002, 05:11 PM
This is just...

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Elvis The Naked Years
03-31-2002, 06:01 PM
..i can understand retarded newbies falling for this, but everyone else..

*looks at gaddrow*

Siamese Dreamer
03-31-2002, 10:32 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by mommy_drank:
then go there and take all your multiple personalities

</font>

<FONT COLOR="RED"> Fuck U Cock Smoker, I only have one personality and that's this one!!!! I think that maybe the O board is better place because this place is full of assholes who don't even like the band!</FONT>

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Nothing Left To Say,
And All I've Left 2 Do,
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Vanity Must Die
04-01-2002, 08:07 AM
Wow, this topic is cool.

<P align=right><FONT SIZE="1" color="#ffffff" face="Arial, Verdana">IP: <A HREF="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getip&number=2&topic=033516.cgi&ReplyNum=000000&forum=General+Chat+Message+Board&TopicSubject=I|APO|m+old+school...">Logge d</A></font></P></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#000000"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#000000"> <TD width=18% valign=top> <FONT SIZE="2 face="Arial, Verdana">Billy Corgan</font>
<FONT SIZE="1" face="Arial, Verdana">The True Poet of Glass
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</td> <TD> <IMG SRC="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/icons/icon1.gif" BORDER=0 ALIGN=ABSCENTER> <FONT SIZE="1" color="#ffffff" face="Arial, Verdana">posted 04-01-2002 10:32 AM <A HREF="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getbio&UserName=Billy Corgan" target=_blank> <IMG SRC="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/profile.gif" BORDER=0 ALT="Click Here to See the Profile for Billy Corgan"></A> <A HREF="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi?action=email&ToWhom=Billy Corgan" target=_blank><IMG SRC="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/email.gif" BORDER=0 ALT="Click Here to Email Billy Corgan"></A> <A HREF="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/postings.cgi?action=editpost&forum=General+Chat+Message+Board&number=2&topic=0335161.cgi&ReplyNum=000000&TopicSubject=I|APO|m+old+school..."> <IMG SRC="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/edit.gif" BORDER=0 ALT="Edit/Delete Message"></A> <A HREF="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/postings.cgi?action=reply&forum=General+Chat+Message+Board&number=2&topic=033516.cgi&TopicSubject=I|APO|m+old+school...&replyto=0"><IMG SRC="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/quote.gif" BORDER=0 ALT="Reply w/Quote"></A> <a href="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/privatesend.cgi?sendto=Billy Corgan&subject=Re:+I|APO|m+old+school..." target="_blank"><img src="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/pmimages/pm.gif" border=0 height=17 alt="send a private message to Billy Corgan"></a> </FONT><HR><FONT SIZE="2" FACE="Arial, Verdana">Alison, please don't talk about my personal life as if you know anything about it. You don't. My drug usage didn't stop because of Jimmy's firing. It didn't stop until almost a year later, when I made a resolution to quit. My point in saying all this is just to show you how obsessed and concieted your apparant knowledge has made you. Admit your mistake, move on, and go play with Barbie & Ken.</FONT>

trine
04-01-2002, 08:54 AM
just fun.

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Siamese Dreamer
04-01-2002, 10:33 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by If It Feels Good, Do Me:
Leave Alison alone, dickheads. She made her points without attacking anyone or making any personal insults, and you will treat her with the same respect, or else. Only those of us who think on a level as high as Billy can truly understand the beauty of Machina story. The only reason that the rest of you bash it is becuase you cant figure it out, and that pisses you off. You're like little kids working on a puzzle. You cant figure out how the pieces go together, so you get mad and throw a fit and throw the pieces around.

Just because you're not intelligent enough to understand something doesn't mean you go around bashing it. Just accept the fact that you're human and move on.</font>
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As unpopualr as this opinion is here at Netphoria... i think we need more people like this, and alison white, because they are actually trying to post just opinions and support the music they love. I couldn't agrre with them both more, and am sick of all you fucks bagging them out here because of what they have to say, and the fake Billy's are the real trolls, not them... and so b4 n e 1 tells me to go to the o-board... NO </FONT>

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Nothing Left To Say,
And All I've Left 2 Do,
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Alison White
04-01-2002, 10:39 PM
Billy,

What the fuck? I wasn't talking about YOUR drug use...I was talking about JIMMY'S drug use(admit YOUR mistake)...about which he TOLD ME OVER DINNER IN WINNIPEG! I don't know a SINGLE FUCKING THING about YOUR drug use! So maybe you should read a little more carefully...I WASN'T EVEN TALKING ABOUT YOU! AND I didn't say ANYWHERE that I know you...you said it, not me...from anyone else's point of view I was just some random fucking fan.

So get your shit straight before you tell me anyfuckingthing like that. All I fucking did was try to stick up for a friend when everyone was fucking being a cunt to him. WITHOUT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT FUCKING KNOWING YOU!!!!!! Why the HELL do you think I'm obsessed with you?????

I HAVE A BOYFRIEND SO GET OVER YOURSELF

I AM TWENTY FIVE FUCKING YEARS OLD so please fuck off with your "Barbie and Ken" comment...Fuck you - in less than six months I'll be a fucking apprenticing architect! I'm not a child so stop fucking treating me like I'm one of your fucking "pumpkin elite" (KS excluded) because I'm not now and I never have been!

The fact that you think I'm "conceited" about knowing anything about you IS THE GAYEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD...HELLO??????? I've known you for years and I STILL don't know anything about you, and I don't tell anyone any little fucked up thing that I DO know! Guess what? NONE OF MY FRIENDS CARE!!! Why would I be conceited over knowing you? What the fuck kind of childish bullshit is that?? Who cares if I know you? I never thought about it like that - I thought that's why you liked me...but apparently that was all a facade! I was a true friend to you! FUCK YOU for being FAKE!!!!! I thought you were real!!!! I AM REAL! So don't think you own me or anything about me, don't think you have any fucking control over me because you don't and you never did!

I can't believe you fucking made it public that I know you...do you think I actually want that online or anywhere else? That's fucking stupid...yeah I really want a bunch of "can you tell Billy I said hi" and "can you send Billy a sample of my cd" and "can you give Billy my email address" bullshit...I am not about living for you...I LIVE FOR ME! I am an intelligent, caring, generous woman, who sticks up for all of her friends...apparantly that is not what you want in a friend? Well, you're nothing that I want in a friend either, if that's how you fucking treat people who care about you so much (coming online and telling me to go play with Barbie and Ken?? Are you fucking kidding me?).

Of course I still love your music, because YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME EVER!!!

So goodbye, all the best, and hopefully someday you'll learn the true meaning of friendship.



[This message has been edited by Alison White (edited 04-02-2002).]

Siamese Dreamer
04-01-2002, 11:32 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
Billy,

What the fuck? I wasn't talking about YOUR drug use...I was talking about JIMMY'S drug use(admit YOUR mistake)...about which he TOLD ME OVER DINNER IN WINNIPEG! I don't know a SINGLE FUCKING THING about YOUR drug use! So maybe you should read a little more carefully...I WASN'T EVEN TALKING ABOUT YOU! AND I didn't say ANYWHERE that I know you...you said it, not me...from anyone else's point of view I was just some random fucking fan.

So get your shit straight before you tell me anyfuckingthing like that. All I fucking did was try to stick up for a friend when everyone was fucking being a cunt to him. WITHOUT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT FUCKING KNOWING YOU!!!!!! Why the HELL do you think I'm obsessed with you?????

I HAVE A BOYFRIEND SO GET OVER YOURSELF

I AM TWENTY FIVE FUCKING YEARS OLD so please fuck off with your "Barbie and Ken" comment...Fuck you - in less than six months I'll be a fucking apprenticing architect! I'm not a child so stop fucking treating me like I'm one of your fucking loser "pumpkin elite" (KS excluded) because I'm not now and I never have been!

The fact that you think I'm "conceited" about knowing anything about you IS THE GAYEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD...HELLO??????? I've known you for years and I STILL don't know anything about you, and I don't tell anyone any little fucked up thing that I DO know! Guess what? NONE OF MY FRIENDS CARE!!! Why would I be conceited over knowing you? What the fuck kind of childish bullshit is that?? Who cares if I know you? I never thought about it like that - I thought that's why you liked me...but apparently that was all a facade! I was a true friend to you! FUCK YOU for being FAKE!!!!! I thought you were real!!!! I AM REAL! So don't think you own me or anything about me, don't think you have any fucking control over me because you don't and you never did!

I can't believe you fucking made it public that I know you...do you think I actually want that online or anywhere else? That's fucking stupid...yeah I really want a bunch of "can you tell Billy I said hi" and "can you send Billy a sample of my cd" and "can you give Billy my email address" bullshit...I am not about living for you...I LIVE FOR ME! I am an intelligent, caring, generous woman, who sticks up for all of her friends...apparantly that is not what you want in a friend? Well, you're nothing that I want in a friend either, if that's how you fucking treat people who care about you so much (coming online and telling me to go play with Barbie and Ken?? Are you fucking kidding me?).

Of course I still love your music, because YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME EVER!!!

So goodbye, all the best, and hopefully someday you'll learn the true meaning of friendship.

[This message has been edited by Alison White (edited 04-01-2002).]</font>

<FONT COLOR="RED">
I really don't think that was Billy, and I don't think he thought you knew him, I think his trolling has back-fired, simply because of the drugs comment, Billy is not stupid, and he can read.... I don't know though, I have been trying to figure out whether it was really, him (I wanted it to be more than I wanted to beleive that it wasn't) but this sorta makes my mind up... </FONT>

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Nothing Left To Say,
And All I've Left 2 Do,
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Siamese Dreamer
04-01-2002, 11:35 PM
<FONT COLOR="RED"> the only thing that makes me think it could be him though, is the fact that his member status was TRUE POET OF GLASS, not the other more humorus discriptions... I don't know at all though, I wish it was Billy </FONT>

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Nothing Left To Say,
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CandyPotter
04-02-2002, 01:19 AM
How, please tell me how, anyone could possibly believe that Billy Corgan really made those posts? I mean, really, most of all that was so over the top. What were you thinking Allison, Siamese Dreamer?

mommy_drank
04-02-2002, 01:24 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Siamese Dreamer:
and so b4 n e 1 tells me to go to the o-board... NO
</font>

would you please go to the o-board?

see, i didn't tell you, i asked nicely. now please go

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Alison White
04-02-2002, 02:09 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by CandyPotter:
How, please tell me how, anyone could possibly believe that Billy Corgan really made those posts? I mean, really, most of all that was so over the top. What were you thinking Allison, Siamese Dreamer?</font>

I just think so because of the flashing stars....I haven't read all his posts though - just the ones in this thread...

*still shaking with anger*

I don't really come here, though...has this happened before?

mommy_drank
04-02-2002, 02:21 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
I just think so because of the flashing stars....I haven't read all his posts though - just the ones in this thread...

*still shaking with anger*

I don't really come here, though...has this happened before?</font>

jeebus, flashing stars = mod, since billy has nothing to do with this board, why would he be a mod? if billy did post here he would have normal member status, just like everyone else. christ, you're fucking retarded!

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Alison White
04-02-2002, 02:29 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by mommy_drank:
jeebus, flashing stars = mod, since billy has nothing to do with this board, why would he be a mod? if billy did post here he would have normal member status, just like everyone else. christ, you're fucking retarded!

</font>

LMAO @ your reply...well I DON'T KNOW why he would have mod status...I mean, it's a board dedicated to him! http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/tongue.gif And I'm not a person who meanders on these boards much...so I didn't know...but thanks for telling me in your kind way http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/wink.gif

Lady of the Sacred Heart
04-02-2002, 02:54 AM
lets all blindly follow billy like sheep and do as we are told, but find our opposers using weapons we have sold!

"shut up, i don't know what i'm talking about either."

*CRIMINALLY INSANE EVIL EYES @ BILLY*

Siamese Dreamer
04-02-2002, 03:28 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by mommy_drank:
would you please go to the o-board?

see, i didn't tell you, i asked nicely. now please go

</font>

<FONT COLOR="RED">
Wow, your manners overwhelm me, and I am speachless....



*walks slowy away to the O-board*

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Nothing Left To Say,
And All I've Left 2 Do,
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mommy_drank
04-02-2002, 03:31 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Siamese Dreamer:
*walks slowy away to the O-board*
</font>

*rejoices*

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smux
04-02-2002, 05:05 AM
*sacrifices cat in honor of mommy_drank*

bawbageo
04-02-2002, 06:57 AM
contender with 'look at my SP tattoo ', but this just pisses all over that. Not that I'm drawing any comparisons with them but...

BEST THREAD EVAR!!!!!
I got to admit I was "Is it him. It could be him.Gosh.Gush then ...nah."

All good stuff

CandyPotter
04-02-2002, 11:15 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
I just think so because of the flashing stars....I haven't read all his posts though - just the ones in this thread...

*still shaking with anger*

I don't really come here, though...has this happened before?</font>

Yes. Being that you were apparently "born yesterday" you should learn to beware moderators. They are your friends, but sometimes they get a wild hair and do something like this. A moderator has the power to put whatever bells and whistles on a screenname he/she wants.

And no, this doesn't really happen here. I'm sure it has, and I don't remember or I didn't pay attention, or I wasn't around. How old is Netphoria anyways? I think I showed up in 99.

JoaoMiguel
04-02-2002, 11:43 AM
http://chojin.lfx.org/retorts/pity.gif

Alison White
04-02-2002, 03:12 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by CandyPotter:
Yes. Being that you were apparently "born yesterday" you should learn to beware moderators. They are your friends, but sometimes they get a wild hair and do something like this. A moderator has the power to put whatever bells and whistles on a screenname he/she wants.

And no, this doesn't really happen here. I'm sure it has, and I don't remember or I didn't pay attention, or I wasn't around. How old is Netphoria anyways? I think I showed up in 99.</font>

Thanks... http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/smile.gif

*sweet sweet*
04-02-2002, 05:05 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
Billy,

What the fuck? I wasn't talking about YOUR drug use...I was talking about JIMMY'S drug use(admit YOUR mistake)...about which he TOLD ME OVER DINNER IN WINNIPEG! I don't know a SINGLE FUCKING THING about YOUR drug use! So maybe you should read a little more carefully...I WASN'T EVEN TALKING ABOUT YOU! AND I didn't say ANYWHERE that I know you...you said it, not me...from anyone else's point of view I was just some random fucking fan.

So get your shit straight before you tell me anyfuckingthing like that. All I fucking did was try to stick up for a friend when everyone was fucking being a cunt to him. WITHOUT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT FUCKING KNOWING YOU!!!!!! Why the HELL do you think I'm obsessed with you?????

I HAVE A BOYFRIEND SO GET OVER YOURSELF

I AM TWENTY FIVE FUCKING YEARS OLD so please fuck off with your "Barbie and Ken" comment...Fuck you - in less than six months I'll be a fucking apprenticing architect! I'm not a child so stop fucking treating me like I'm one of your fucking "pumpkin elite" (KS excluded) because I'm not now and I never have been!

The fact that you think I'm "conceited" about knowing anything about you IS THE GAYEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD...HELLO??????? I've known you for years and I STILL don't know anything about you, and I don't tell anyone any little fucked up thing that I DO know! Guess what? NONE OF MY FRIENDS CARE!!! Why would I be conceited over knowing you? What the fuck kind of childish bullshit is that?? Who cares if I know you? I never thought about it like that - I thought that's why you liked me...but apparently that was all a facade! I was a true friend to you! FUCK YOU for being FAKE!!!!! I thought you were real!!!! I AM REAL! So don't think you own me or anything about me, don't think you have any fucking control over me because you don't and you never did!

I can't believe you fucking made it public that I know you...do you think I actually want that online or anywhere else? That's fucking stupid...yeah I really want a bunch of "can you tell Billy I said hi" and "can you send Billy a sample of my cd" and "can you give Billy my email address" bullshit...I am not about living for you...I LIVE FOR ME! I am an intelligent, caring, generous woman, who sticks up for all of her friends...apparantly that is not what you want in a friend? Well, you're nothing that I want in a friend either, if that's how you fucking treat people who care about you so much (coming online and telling me to go play with Barbie and Ken?? Are you fucking kidding me?).

Of course I still love your music, because YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME EVER!!!

So goodbye, all the best, and hopefully someday you'll learn the true meaning of friendship.

[This message has been edited by Alison White (edited 04-02-2002).]</font>

Aeroplane
04-02-2002, 06:04 PM
Did I miss something?

Aeroplane
04-02-2002, 06:19 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Marquis667:
Depends on what you mean by that...</font>

Oh, Marquis, you just make me laugh. That's all. Your keeeewwwl.

Aeroplane
04-02-2002, 06:20 PM
Post 100!!!!!! (for this thread that is)

june33
04-02-2002, 06:36 PM
ohmifuck. i didnt know people this stupid actually existed in the world.

Zero?
04-02-2002, 06:45 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
well I DON'T KNOW why he would have mod status...I mean, it's a board dedicated to him! </font>

Ok,...it's a board for fans of the BAND!!!!
There is no midless worshipping of billy over here.


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Elvis The Naked Years
04-02-2002, 07:29 PM
heh this is so retarded it hurts my ass

Reyngel
04-02-2002, 09:32 PM
Alison, the reason people think you're an idiot is because you say you're not obsessed with Billy, and yet you bust a nut when you think he insults you. I mean fuck, you sound mentally unstable. And any dimwit, regardless of how often they visit here, could see that it wasn't really Billy. So what the hell's wrong with you?

It seems to me that you need to get the fuck out of here, cause the content obviously is too much for your obsessive head to handle. No matter which one you are: a hopeless and insecure wreck of a person, or a pathetic and meaningless troll, you're still a fuckin annoying thing to have sitting at the top of the message board.

Alison White
04-02-2002, 10:00 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Reyngel:
Alison, the reason people think you're an idiot is because you say you're not obsessed with Billy, and yet you bust a nut when you think he insults you. I mean fuck, you sound mentally unstable. And any dimwit, regardless of how often they visit here, could see that it wasn't really Billy. So what the hell's wrong with you?

It seems to me that you need to get the fuck out of here, cause the content obviously is too much for your obsessive head to handle. No matter which one you are: a hopeless and insecure wreck of a person, or a pathetic and meaningless troll, you're still a fuckin annoying thing to have sitting at the top of the message board.

</font>

Holy shit...you are fuckin smart!

Let's see...if I were obsessed would I:
A) cry like a fuckin panty and apologize
B)tell him to fuck off and never see him again, or
C)Do nothing.

Hmmm...I'd say if I was obsessed, I would have done A...I'd also say that this is ridiculous since none of you know anything about my friendship with Billy. If ANY of my friends said that to me, I'd tell them to fuck off...so please, do stop...you're making yourself look very simple minded...

Alison White
04-02-2002, 10:01 PM
PS - a tip to Reyngel,

If you hate seeing my topic at the top of the board, it may help if you stop replying...

Travis Meeks
04-02-2002, 10:29 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
Holy shit...you are fuckin smart!

Let's see...if I were obsessed would I:
A) cry like a fuckin panty and apologize
B)tell him to fuck off and never see him again, or
C)Do nothing.

Hmmm...I'd say if I wa obsessed, I would have done A...I'd also say that this is ridiculous since none of you know anything about my friendship with Billy. If ANY of my friends said that to me, I'd tell them to fuck off...so please, do stop...you're making yourself look very simple minded...</font>

YES! We made another naive young pumpkin fan into a bitter, spiteful person. Well done guys http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/smile.gif


[This message has been edited by Travis Meeks (edited 04-02-2002).]

smux
04-02-2002, 11:10 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Travis Meeks:
YES! We made another naive young pumpkin fan into a bitter, spiteful person. Well done guys http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/smile.gif


[This message has been edited by Travis Meeks (edited 04-02-2002).]</font>

One more week and she'll kill an Oboarder on sight.

GlassDreams
04-02-2002, 11:18 PM
I say ban the bitch.

Siamese Dreamer
04-02-2002, 11:33 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
Holy shit...you are fuckin smart!

Let's see...if I were obsessed would I:
A) cry like a fuckin panty and apologize
B)tell him to fuck off and never see him again, or
C)Do nothing.

Hmmm...I'd say if I was obsessed, I would have done A...I'd also say that this is ridiculous since none of you know anything about my friendship with Billy. If ANY of my friends said that to me, I'd tell them to fuck off...so please, do stop...you're making yourself look very simple minded...</font>

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Good Call Alison, you rock, tell these fucks were to go, because at least you have real things to say and it hurts u when people arn't nice... These souless creatures don't know what it means to have emotions...(could be a bit harsh, but I'm pissed at Billy Bashers, and decent people Basher's)
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Nothing Left To Say,
And All I've Left 2 Do,
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Smiley
04-03-2002, 01:42 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
so please, do stop...you're making yourself look very simple minded...</font>

http://www.suicidekiss.org/forumimages/billynahizu.jpg



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Lady of the Sacred Heart
04-03-2002, 03:50 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Smiley:
http://www.suicidekiss.org/forumimages/billynahizu.jpg

</font>

hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
that was very funny, yet i am simple minded........

Vanity Must Die
04-03-2002, 07:55 AM
Alison, shut the fuck up.

SiameseDreamer, shut the fuck up.

Now.

>Trent

frenchy
04-03-2002, 10:13 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
I'd also say that this is ridiculous since none of you know anything about my friendship with Billy. If ANY of my friends said that to me, I'd tell them to fuck off...</font>


I'm sorry to doubt you, but you're "friendship" with Bolly seems limited since he's always bragging about how he's scared of the Internet and doesn't want to be around it...

So, eheh now he's a Netphoria Mod ; )
that make sens... that's what i call being smart and not obsessive.

Please, go mad on my board, we're gonna love it :
French SP Forum (http://forumsp.fr.fm)



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frenchy@smorfelt.com
Manager of the French speaking Smashing Pumpkins Community :
Les Citrouilles Ardentes (http://lca.fr.fm)
ICQ : 33099580

melancholia
04-03-2002, 10:19 AM
http://www.comicpost.com/Vintage/trolls.JPG

beever
04-03-2002, 11:23 AM
This must be archieved!! Best thread on the SP board in a looong time.

beever
04-03-2002, 11:23 AM
*Sig worthy*

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Crono
04-03-2002, 03:02 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Siamese Dreamer:
Originally posted by If It Feels Good, Do Me:
Leave Alison alone, dickheads. She made her points without attacking anyone or making any personal insults, and you will treat her with the same respect, or else. Only those of us who think on a level as high as Billy can truly understand the beauty of Machina story. The only reason that the rest of you bash it is becuase you cant figure it out, and that pisses you off. You're like little kids working on a puzzle. You cant figure out how the pieces go together, so you get mad and throw a fit and throw the pieces around.

Just because you're not intelligent enough to understand something doesn't mean you go around bashing it. Just accept the fact that you're human and move on.</font>
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As unpopualr as this opinion is here at Netphoria... i think we need more people like this, and alison white, because they are actually trying to post just opinions and support the music they love. I couldn't agrre with them both more, and am sick of all you fucks bagging them out here because of what they have to say, and the fake Billy's are the real trolls, not them... and so b4 n e 1 tells me to go to the o-board... NO </FONT>

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go to the oboard, you'll be happier, trust us

Crono
04-03-2002, 03:06 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Alison White:
Holy shit...you are fuckin smart!

Let's see...if I were obsessed would I:
A) cry like a fuckin panty and apologize
B)tell him to fuck off and never see him again, or
C)Do nothing.

Hmmm...I'd say if I was obsessed, I would have done A...I'd also say that this is ridiculous since none of you know anything about my friendship with Billy. If ANY of my friends said that to me, I'd tell them to fuck off...so please, do stop...you're making yourself look very simple minded...</font>

billy posts at the oboard, go there.

NegaBenji
04-03-2002, 05:14 PM
It's a tsunami of idiocy!

<P align=right><FONT SIZE="1" color="#ffffff" face="Arial, Verdana">IP: <A HREF="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getip&number=2&topic=004532.cgi&ReplyNum=000000&forum=General+Chat+Message+Board&TopicSubject=An+answer+to+Billy|APO|s+que stion...">Logged</A></font></P></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#000000"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#000000"> <TD width=18% valign=top> <FONT SIZE="2 face="Arial, Verdana">Jimmy Chamberlin</font>
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</td> <TD> <IMG SRC="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/icons/icon4.gif" BORDER=0 ALIGN=ABSCENTER> <FONT SIZE="1" color="#ffffff" face="Arial, Verdana">posted 04-03-2002 05:10 PM &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A HREF="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getbio&UserName=Jimmy Chamberlin" target=_blank> <IMG SRC="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/profile.gif" BORDER=0 ALT="Click Here to See the Profile for Jimmy Chamberlin"></A> &nbsp;&nbsp;<A HREF="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi?action=email&ToWhom=Jimmy Chamberlin" target=_blank><IMG SRC="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/email.gif" BORDER=0 ALT="Click Here to Email Jimmy Chamberlin"></A>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;<A HREF="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/postings.cgi?action=editpost&forum=General+Chat+Message+Board&number=2&topic=0045321.cgi&ReplyNum=000000&TopicSubject=An+answer+to+Billy|APO| s+question..."><IMG SRC="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/edit.gif" BORDER=0 ALT="Edit/Delete Message"></A> &nbsp;&nbsp;<A HREF="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/postings.cgi?action=reply&forum=General+Chat+Message+Board&number=2&topic=004532.cgi&TopicSubject=An+answer+to+Billy|APO|s+question...&replyt o=0"><IMG SRC="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/quote.gif" BORDER=0 ALT="Reply w/Quote"></A> &nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.netphoria.org/cgi-bin/privatesend.cgi?sendto=Jimmy Chamberlin&subject=Re:+An+answer+to+Billy|APO|s+question..." target="_blank"><img src="http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/pmimages/pm.gif" border=0 height=17 alt="send a private message to Jimmy Chamberlin"></a> &nbsp; </FONT><HR><FONT SIZE="2" FACE="Arial, Verdana">Billy asked me to come here and tell you all to shut the fuck up. If you keep up this attitude he won't post here again, got it?</FONT>

frail_and_bedazzled
04-03-2002, 05:33 PM
say it ain't so jimmeh! i'll put on that lycra mini skirt and splash on some calgon body spray from rite aid!

Mustard
04-03-2002, 06:49 PM
i think alison white and siamese dreamer would make a cute couple. annoying, maybe, but cute, nonetheless.

Ranger
04-03-2002, 08:42 PM
*pulls out gun and shoots computer*

Siamese Dreamer
04-03-2002, 09:31 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Vanity Must Die:
Alison, shut the fuck up.

SiameseDreamer, shut the fuck up.

Now.

>Trent</font>
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Wow, you're clever.... wish I could be cool like you

cock smoker</FONT>

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Nothing Left To Say,
And All I've Left 2 Do,
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LavenderBuzz
04-03-2002, 09:47 PM
Jimmy...

I guess Billy's not going to post here. Its hard to expect:

1) 12-16yr olds to post intelligently all the time (you remember those glory days, dont you?)

2) Reality-comprehendable-polite posts from People who visit late at nite and feel physically removed from the reality of person-to-person conversation

3)and just the fact that theres too many personalitities and no mediator...

Theres just going to be alot of random, stupid things. I dont even think people's desire for Billy to regularily post is going to change that...even I like to appear childish on occassion and I'm considered the mature one by my peers...(I fall in the late nite had a little to drink catergory).

Anyway...to make this short (at least for me), if Billy wants to really have meaniningful insightful conversation with his fans then he needs to build a private board where he can choose who he wants to be members and remains in control of who should be removed, banned or excummunicated.

I think it would be a happier situation....

LavenderBuzz
04-03-2002, 09:51 PM
i just re-read what i posted and i feel i come off in the negative...i dont mean to...i'm not a frequent poster anywhere and its not that i'm supporting or endorsing any behavior of any kind...

i just understand the logic behind it all and i feel that if you want a certain utopia...you're going to have to move somewhere private and not invite people you dont like...

*and im keeping my fingers crossed that i'll be invited but i'm not counting my chickens*