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MonteLDS 07-22-2007, 02:02 PM Live! From the Fillmore
I am bored- what elsee can I say. But the line here is better than normal. New people here in line. I am here w/ smashing0
MonteLDS 07-22-2007, 02:19 PM O ya smashing0 has picture of a zeigeist van. Its pretty funny
JRiordan 07-22-2007, 02:41 PM Is line longer today? Of the first 3 shows I believe the first (Sunday 7/15) had the longest -- most likely due to it being Sunday. But it still wasn't TOO long
And hey you guys got 6 new songs at the "radio only" Fillmore show 7/19... so yeah I think it has to count in your numbering!!! Tonight is show #6
MonteLDS 07-22-2007, 04:00 PM Well santa cruz I wasn't sure what to do w/ that. But ya show #6. Todays lkine is short short! It was 1pm and not more than half the post office wall full. I went for a walk and I am now on my way back. Its almost 2 and we will see what we have. I don't expect too many people, which is surprising since it is a sunday. Their was no show yesterday even. Anyways peace out
jjbjjbjjb 07-22-2007, 04:03 PM It's Fillmore #5, California #6. Is that so hard?
markpregen 07-22-2007, 05:14 PM if they don't have something new tonight I might take a nap in the restaurant.. those darn posters force me to stay until the end..
Heat6Jones 07-22-2007, 05:16 PM I hope they play the songs they've played already. What's worse than change?
markpregen 07-22-2007, 05:22 PM I hope they play the songs they've played already. What's worse than change?
"all things change".. wow 5 days to the 1 year anniversary of the world famous montelds video
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa-7KwOAwQw
redbull 07-22-2007, 05:25 PM I hope they play the songs they've played already. What's worse than change?
zwan
headheldhigh 07-22-2007, 05:48 PM would i be able to bring a SLR camera tonight, or are they not allowing that stuff? i just don't want to lug it back to my hotel.
markpregen 07-22-2007, 05:51 PM would i be able to bring a SLR camera tonight, or are they not allowing that stuff? i just don't want to lug it back to my hotel.
if it has a big lens or looks professional, then no.. post a link to it
headheldhigh 07-22-2007, 06:00 PM camera:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EOS_5
lens:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/264304-USA/Canon_8014A002_Zoom_Wide_Angle_Telephoto_EF.html
i left my big 70-200 2.8 back at home, but it's still a pro lens... pretty big...
so they'll allow hi def video cameras, but not film SLRs? i have a digital SLR, i just prefer film. plus my digital REALLY looks professional. my film one is a 10 year old prosumer model.
markpregen 07-22-2007, 06:07 PM camera:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EOS_5
lens:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/264304-USA/Canon_8014A002_Zoom_Wide_Angle_Telephoto_EF.html
i left my big 70-200 2.8 back at home, but it's still a pro lens... pretty big...
so they'll allow hi def video cameras, but not film SLRs? i have a digital SLR, i just prefer film.
yeah i'm thinking "no" on that .. but you could always hide the lens in your pants or something.. monte's high def camera is very small, so they let it in.. for the fillmore, size matters... hah
headheldhigh 07-22-2007, 06:10 PM yeah i'm thinking "no" on that .. but you could always hide the lens in your pants or something.. monte's high def camera is very small, so they let it in.. for the fillmore, size matters... hah
that sucks. i wanted to get some grainy pushed up black and white of billy's shiny head lol... oh well. i'm sure my wife won't mind me not taking it, it's her first pumpkins show and she just wants to rock.
i can't hide it because i didn't bring the back lens caps for the camera or the lens cause i was trying to travel light. trust me, i had a bitch of a time deciding what 1 lens to bring. it was a hard choice haha. i'm a dork.
garbanzo 07-22-2007, 06:13 PM i'm feelin a frail and bedazzled opener tonight
headheldhigh 07-22-2007, 06:18 PM i'm feelin a frail and bedazzled opener tonight
i could finally die.
headheldhigh 07-22-2007, 06:25 PM By the way, my wife and I arrived yesterday and have been trying to fit as much San Francisco in as possible before we leave tomorrow, and I have to say you guys have a wonderful city here. I've been a lot of places and I have particularly enjoyed my time here in SF. Except for the part where it's impossible to get a cab on a Saturday night. I mean, WTF?
DoomsdayRocket 07-22-2007, 06:45 PM i'm feelin a frail and bedazzled opener tonight
as in an abusive kind of way? :erm:
garbanzo 07-22-2007, 07:13 PM as in a "I want to be disappointed" kind of way :)
and I hate the city of San Francisco. I don't know who vacations here, but every single hotel is booked, every rental car is gone, and I've never seen so many bums in my life.
At least in Philly the bums had boundaries, in San Fran, they're everywhere.
JRiordan 07-22-2007, 07:27 PM By the way, my wife and I arrived yesterday and have been trying to fit as much San Francisco in as possible before we leave tomorrow, and I have to say you guys have a wonderful city here. I've been a lot of places and I have particularly enjoyed my time here in SF.
But you probably haven't been to the local Pumpkins watering holes, ZEITGEIST and LUCKY 13!!!
http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=145788&page=2
It is seriously hilarious that those not only exist in SF but also have good reviews
MonteLDS 07-22-2007, 08:36 PM Just ran into ginger. Was walking back to my car. She came out in a beanie alone. Then someone showred up w/ her and left. She just smiled when I said hi :)
JRiordan 07-22-2007, 08:38 PM A beanie? How does she get all her hair under there?
garbanzo 07-22-2007, 08:41 PM i wonder if the jess and ginger are on a no-talking to anyone directive?
you'd think otherwise one of them would have been more open by now..
although, i guess jeff has his blog :P
lapis 07-22-2007, 08:47 PM I talked to Jeff in Asheville ;)
Rickpat12 07-22-2007, 08:49 PM Wow, Ginger in a beanie, I bet she looked amazing. Now if she had pig-tails, I'd bust a nut right now.
EDIT: That was my 777th post. FUCKIN' SINE!!!! I would say something hott about Ginger on my 777th.
if there is a llama 07-22-2007, 08:52 PM Wow, Ginger in a beanie, I bet she looked amazing. Now if she had pig-tails, I'd bust a nut right now.
Ditto. I love pig tails.
MonteLDS 07-22-2007, 09:10 PM Holy crap!! We have a lot of camera people today!! 5 that are doing video. A team doing audio. This is going be crazy.
Possibly 3 in HD if agnew comes. At least 2 for sure!
JRiordan 07-22-2007, 09:13 PM ^ That is excellent, but the key is the AUDIO!
MonteLDS 07-22-2007, 09:22 PM Hahahahahaha
This girl was saying crazy stuff
Adore is now called Ava Adore
Machina is now spelled makena
And I have no idea how she pronounced zeigeist....
Oh and she thought shame was a b-side
davin 07-22-2007, 09:25 PM so was the santa cruz venue smaller or larger than the Filmore?
markpregen 07-22-2007, 09:29 PM so was the santa cruz venue smaller or larger than the Filmore?
fillmore = 1250 person capacity
santa cruz i heard was about double that.. so to answer your question.. santa cruz was larger
wHATcOLOR 07-22-2007, 09:34 PM Holy crap!! A team doing audio. This is going be crazy.
<img src=http://www.fiftiesweb.com/tv/a-team.jpg>
Mister T is a pumpkins fan!!?
chrisothoulo 07-22-2007, 09:35 PM <img src=http://www.fiftiesweb.com/tv/a-team.jpg>
Mister T is a pumpkins fan!!?
Its Mr. T
markpregen 07-22-2007, 09:35 PM Mister T is a pumpkins fan!!?
he should show up and say "I pity the fool who plays Mayonaise and Eye in soundcheck but never plays them in concert!"
for sure dood
god, they even did window paine, frail & bedazzled and f'ing cherry
that all seems so long ago...we're hopeless now
chrisothoulo 07-22-2007, 10:25 PM for sure dood
god, they even did window paine, frail & bedazzled and f'ing cherry
that all seems so long ago...we're hopeless now
they are going to play all of those songs tonight.. you watch
DoomsdayRocket 07-22-2007, 10:35 PM maybe in bizarro land where a square-headed billy rocks the world
ameyer 07-22-2007, 10:44 PM at this point, i'd be shocked if they didn't do yet another "safe" setlist.
MonteLDS 07-22-2007, 10:57 PM We have a lot of tapers for video maybe 7 or 8. I have not seen agnew yet. Ends up we have 3 audio tapers
And here is our sneak peak setlist
us,come on let's go,lucky13,thatstheway,glass,hummer,drown,bwbw,inm ybody,bsbt,dfa,idontmind,rottenapples,cryingtree
redbull 07-22-2007, 10:59 PM so surprising!
wHATcOLOR 07-22-2007, 11:00 PM cool about come on let's go, drown, i don't mind, and rotten apples, but yeah, not exactly brand new
icculus 07-22-2007, 11:01 PM so was the santa cruz venue smaller or larger than the Filmore?
The Civic Auditorium in Santa Cruz is over 3 times as large as the Fillmore.
JRiordan 07-22-2007, 11:16 PM 3 audio tapers = excellent news
MonteLDS 07-22-2007, 11:27 PM Test your reflex is not too bad. But its their only nite. Not too bad, but towards the end I am falling asleep. The lead singer can't seem to thank sp2 enough. Zzz
MonteLDS 07-22-2007, 11:34 PM Test your reflex is done! Thank goodness. I am falling asleep here
MonteLDS 07-22-2007, 11:36 PM Holy crap! My area is packed! Like way packed!
Slurpee 07-22-2007, 11:40 PM I have officially given up hoping for new songs.
On the plus side, now I can stop worrying and just enjoy all of Monte's crazy stories.
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 12:02 AM Ah man I see 10 video tapers. This show is going be crazy taper wise
garbanzo 07-23-2007, 12:19 AM well you'd think, but most of the tapers i see only record clips...not even full songs, let alone the whole show.
JRiordan 07-23-2007, 12:19 AM Tell Mark to stop spoiling any hope of new songs for himself by reading the setlist ahead of time every night! Y'all are really gonna be burned out by the end of this run
davin 07-23-2007, 01:25 AM fill me in on how mark is getting to see the setlists in advance...just curious...
Machina12 07-23-2007, 01:30 AM have they not started yet? I dont see any songs listed. Also.. can someone there tell me if about the sound? Is it realllly loud, moderate or what? Thanks (crossing fingers for everlasting gaze/ava adore)
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 01:33 AM Setlist sneak peek part 2
With every light
Tonight, tonight
Tarantula
Starz
Zero
Today
Neverlost
Heavymetalmachine
Disarm
Untitled
Muzzle
Encore1
To sheila
Can't read..probably doomsdayclock
Starla
Possibly more after starla.. Stay tuned
WalkingStrayz 07-23-2007, 01:39 AM i dont know how billy and jimmy can talk so positively about these residencies hyping them all up to be so creative and unique with new songs and what not. 5 shows in and they have yet to whip out an "new-old" song.
saddens me.
WalkingStrayz 07-23-2007, 01:40 AM i guess i cant really complain too much, but is it THAT unreasonable?
if there is a llama 07-23-2007, 01:45 AM i guess i cant really complain too much, but is it THAT unreasonable?
I get what you're saying. Because if you look at all the residencies, it's not that shocking or surprising. But if you only went to say...two shows...it would be pretty damn cool.
I was just happy I saw Starla and Drown in one show.
And randomly - Thanks to Monte for being such a good source of video/information
JRiordan 07-23-2007, 01:45 AM fill me in on how mark is getting to see the setlists in advance...just curious...
If I told you I'd have to kill you... ;)
There is a screen by the soundboard that always has it. I think they had it in Asheville too. Since the setlists are like ~25 songs long, not all fit on screen at once, thus before the show you can only see about the first half, then later they scroll it down (thus the "sneak peek part 2" that Monte just posted).
I would not dare peek at this before the show... but man, tonight... again?!?! Throw us a bone Billy!
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 01:46 AM Yes the sound is loud :erm:
I (markpregen) get the setlist from the soundboard monitor.. There's a big screen that shows about 15 songs at a time.. Hence leak part 1 and 2.. At least I don't lose all hope until around 1130... But anyway,I also spoil movies and cheat at video games.. Its in my genes
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 01:51 AM This was the best version of thatstheway I've heard.. Billys guitar worked
Billy introduced neverlost as his favorite song from zeitgeist.. And lectured us on buying not stealing the album again
---markpregen
darcy666 07-23-2007, 01:54 AM setlist=pathetic
I really have given up all excitement and anticipation with regards to these residences now. Its just becoming boring
if there is a llama 07-23-2007, 01:58 AM This was the best version of thatstheway I've heard.. Billys guitar worked
Billy introduced neverlost as his favorite song from zeitgeist.. And lectured us on buying not stealing the album again
---markpregen
That's really funny. cause you know most of the people that got tickets to residencies probably bought multiple copies.
Billy should fight T.I. to the death
Waiting 07-23-2007, 02:01 AM NME.COM
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Billy Corgan - Zeitgeist Residencies - Huge Ego mixed with boring setlists.
.... "These are not the smashing pumpkins without James or Darcy" ... "Billy should call it a day and retire to the golf course" ... "Zeitgeist is only selling high because of the many album versions" ... "Billy is a dick" ... "We do not review shows, only personalities" ... rehash of other reviews.
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 02:09 AM Spiteface tease!!!
Before disarm
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 02:15 AM Spiteface tease!!!
Before disarm
shadow47 07-23-2007, 02:16 AM Woooah. Daring, as they say.
Or not.
Hope you're enjoying yourself there Monte. I can relate to how people are feeling about the lack of change in the lists; if I had known they were going to be having this little variation I likely would've settled at around 2 nights to this...not that I don't enjoy it but 2 is probably enough to hear most of the songs they've been playing...but frankly so far SF Residency hasn't lived up to Asheville in terms of adventure.
Waiting 07-23-2007, 02:17 AM Billy's really digging deep!
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 02:22 AM O. My new song
And billy and jimmy did an accoustic set j on g
Azael 07-23-2007, 02:25 AM O. My new song
And billy and jimmy did an accoustic set j on g
Acoustic Jam on Gossamer?
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 02:26 AM Starla
fluxequalsrad 07-23-2007, 02:27 AM Gossamer. It's always Gossamer, ...never mind playing 3 chord fan favorites.
reprise85 07-23-2007, 02:27 AM j on g = jimmy on guitar?
harrow 07-23-2007, 02:28 AM ok that's cool
Waiting 07-23-2007, 02:28 AM Billy, you dare-devil you!
jjbjjbjjb 07-23-2007, 02:32 AM n/m
No, I bet you were right, j on g = Jimmy on guitar.
JRiordan 07-23-2007, 02:34 AM Interesting that Neverlost is his fave... I've gone back and forth on it
And Friday in Santa Cruz he thanked everyone for making Z one of the top sellers in many countries (and according to that one thread, the #1 overall seller in the world for its debut week). Tonight it's back to the "jokes"...
Was Spiteface tease real???
reprise85 07-23-2007, 02:34 AM I changed it back. I hope that's what it means but I think it's more likely a typo or some other abbreviation.
ameyer 07-23-2007, 02:34 AM so much for my theory on not taking risks...
Not that it's a good thing, I'm guessing Jimmy is a mediocre at best guitaist
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 02:35 AM Encore 1 over. We all know they got 1 more song :(
JRiordan 07-23-2007, 02:35 AM O. My new song
And billy and jimmy did an accoustic set j on g
If that's "Jimmy on guitar" as inferred above, that is how they were gonna play the SONG "Zeitgeist" at the secret acoustic show on 6/5 in Germany!
Play "Zeitgeist" Billy!!!
wHATcOLOR 07-23-2007, 02:37 AM so much for my theory on not taking risks...
Not that it's a good thing, I'm guessing Jimmy is a mediocre at best guitaist
untrue fan. if you were more familiar with vieuphoria, you'd know that jimmy is better at guitar than bill and james combined
reprise85 07-23-2007, 02:38 AM Would be cool no matter what they played, but I would love to hear Zeitgeist as well.
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 02:40 AM Muzzel
wHATcOLOR 07-23-2007, 02:41 AM if they played zeitgeist, that'd be pretty excellent
garbanzo 07-23-2007, 02:43 AM jesus Billy, shut the fuck up about people not buying the album.
in fact, i'm going to go return mine right now.
fucker.
and spiteface teases can s my d. play the whole song asshole, or i'll start stealing hard copies of the cd instead of just downloading it.
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 02:45 AM Shoow over!!!
JRiordan 07-23-2007, 02:47 AM Show over???
Where is the crowd immediately clapping and chanting, stomping the floor for 6-7 minutes nonstop until sick, nauseous Billy returned?!!! 7/18 crowd ++++++++rep!!!!!
Waiting 07-23-2007, 02:48 AM 7/24/07 - SF News - Billy Corgan Stoned to death by Pissed off Fans.
garbanzo 07-23-2007, 02:49 AM I'm going to tease booing his ass at the next concert and see how he takes that.
Maybe he'll go on a different rant rather than telling me to buy his album....at least we'll get something different.
drtydog31 07-23-2007, 02:50 AM so much for my theory on not taking risks...
Not that it's a good thing, I'm guessing Jimmy is a mediocre at best guitaist
I saw him play guitar on the "Egypt Jam" with Zwan way back when (Sweeney took the drums), and he held his own.
garbanzo 07-23-2007, 02:51 AM Show over???
Where is the crowd immediately clapping and chanting, stomping the floor for 6-7 minutes nonstop until sick, nauseous Billy returned?!!! 7/18 crowd ++++++++rep!!!!!
I know it's been said before, but i've never seen anything like that before :)
That freakin' ruled. We owned Billy Corgan
JRiordan 07-23-2007, 02:54 AM I know it's been said before, but i've never seen anything like that before
That freakin' ruled. We owned Billy Corgan
^ Exactly! Major props to the crowd that night.
And I sure hope an AUD tape surfaces, cause I really wanna know what all Billy was screaming in the Silverfuck... he was more animated for that than anything else I've seen this year. Damn that SF Chronicle!!!
garbanzo 07-23-2007, 02:58 AM i didn't notice a whole lot new in that silverfuck...but i don't remember a whole lot from concerts...i usually headbang any memories out of my head far in advance.
i remember the mother yells. i remember the 52 crows rant. and i think he said that JRlordan was a jerk for only buying one copy of Zeitgeist ;)
JRiordan 07-23-2007, 03:04 AM And poor fans tonight didn't get a Gossamer... oh well, they'll have to return!
garbanzo 07-23-2007, 03:07 AM Gossamer needs a little more action in that middle 15 minutes.
These extended one note solos get old...but once again, that's only if you're crazy enough to see them over and over and over again.
See it once, and that song rules!
garbanzo 07-23-2007, 03:08 AM And as soon as I type that, I realize how much I've enjoyed those songs each night, so I guess I've been here too long, and am just looking for something to bitch about.
But for real, Billy the Jokesmith needs to stfu with regards to buying the album. Each time he opens his mouth is a moment he could be playing Spiteface. Or F&B.
1100ww 07-23-2007, 03:35 AM I saw him play guitar on the "Egypt Jam" with Zwan way back when (Sweeney took the drums), and he held his own.
Was that in St. Louis?
headheldhigh 07-23-2007, 03:46 AM well, i really enjoyed the show tonight... but i will say that not giving us either silverfuck OR gossamer was pretty fucked up. one of the big jam songs would have been nice. oh, and where was doomsday clock? it's my favorite song on the album! HMM was insanely bad ass, waaaaay better than on the machina tour. drown was amazing and starla was a long time coming for me... too long...
but you guys are absolutely right, while these sets are extremely enjoyable, and the zeitgeist songs are freaking SICK live, there's nothing really adventurous about the residency dates. i guess i don't understand what he's trying to do... oh well, maybe st. paul and normal will fill in the gaps for me. later on guys!
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 03:55 AM Ok I got a lot of good info for you guys from the mouth of billy. Once again billy & I spoke to each other after the show.I asked if had any plans to surprise us w/ new songs from the setlist. Someone asked if he'd play porcelina and I can't recall if he really answered. But I think he said no. Then I was just asking him in true netphoria style "do you even rember how to play porcelina?" And he looked at me and said "ya"
I asked him if he was going play anything new for us. And he told me he hadn't felt inspired here like he did in ashville.
But here is the question we all want to hear. I asked him "hey billy in asheville you played mayo during sound check and got half way threw it. Getting a lot of people in ashville excited. Then you didn't play it." He then kind of cut me off pointed at me and said w/ his non offensive charm yet no smile and said "you scare me!"
He then said goodbye.
I got a lot of amazing video tonite. I have gotten a lot better recently. I got some amazing stuff to show you.
For example. Jimmy and Billy doing a newer song together acoustic guitar.
The Jerry story (greatful dead)
The banter before some songs where he explains he is kidding a lot.
A great accoustic version of crying tree
Plus much much more!
As for fixing the setlist. I think markpregen will do that othherwise I am going to do it tomorrow. Goodnight folks-
markpregen 07-23-2007, 04:07 AM United States
Come On (Let's Go)
Lucky 13
That's the Way (My Love is)
Glass & the Ghost Children
Hummer
Drown
Bullet with Butterfly Wings
In My Body
Blue Skies Bring Tears
Death From Above
I Don't Mind
Rotten Apples
The Crying Tree of Mercury
With Every Light
Tonight, Tonight
Tarantula
Starz
Zero
Today
Neverlost
Heavy Metal Machine
Spiteface (tease)
[Billy was trying to tell a story about when he wrote Disarm, but a hippie kept shouting at him, so he said the moment has passed and stopped]
Disarm
Untitled
Encore 1
Zeitgeist (Billy and Jimmy on acoustic guitars)
No Surrender (full band)
Starla
Encore 2
Muzzle
cut from setlist: Cherub Rock, To Sheila, Encore 3: Gossamer (thank the L0rd)
Cool As Ice Cream 07-23-2007, 04:13 AM Zeitgeist (Billy and Jimmy on acoustic guitars)
yes!
monty, how could you not recognize this song?
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 04:20 AM i have hardly listen to that song.. but i got amazing footage of it
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 04:23 AM United States
Come On (Let's Go)
Lucky 13
That's the Way (My Love is)
Glass & the Ghost Children
Hummer
Drown
Bullet with Butterfly Wings
In My Body
Blue Skies Bring Tears
Death From Above
I Don't Mind
Rotten Apples
The Crying Tree of Mercury
With Every Light
Tonight, Tonight
Tarantula
Starz
Zero
Today
Neverlost
Heavy Metal Machine
Spiteface (tease)
[Billy was trying to tell a story about when he wrote Disarm, but a hippie kept shouting at him, so he said the moment has passed and stopped]
Disarm
Untitled
Encore 1
Zeitgeist (Billy and Jimmy on acoustic guitars)
No Surrender (full band)
Starla
Encore 2
Muzzle
cut from setlist: Cherub Rock, To Sheila, Encore 3: Gossamer (thank the L0rd)
No Surrender is a new song, and is quiet. i am not sure how my audio is for it, but i did get it on mini disc. so we will see.
Spiteface tease was the highlight of the show along w/ the Zeitgeist (Billy and Jimmy on acoustic guitars)
otherwise it was kind of the same old for me. but loved that i got to be there
icculus 07-23-2007, 05:09 AM Ok I got a lot of good info for you guys from the mouth of billy. Once again billy & I spoke to each other after the show.I asked if had any plans to surprise us w/ new songs from the setlist. Someone asked if he'd play porcelina and I can't recall if he really answered. But I think he said no. Then I was just asking him in true netphoria style "do you even rember how to play porcelina?" And he looked at me and said "ya"
I asked him if he was going play anything new for us. And he told me he hadn't felt inspired here like he did in ashville.
But here is the question we all want to hear. I asked him "hey billy in asheville you played mayo during sound check and got half way threw it. Getting a lot of people in ashville excited. Then you didn't play it." He then kind of cut me off pointed at me and said w/ his non offensive charm yet no smile and said "you scare me!"
He then said goodbye.
I got a lot of amazing video tonite. I have gotten a lot better recently. I got some amazing stuff to show you.
For example. Jimmy and Billy doing a newer song together acoustic guitar.
The Jerry story (greatful dead)
The banter before some songs where he explains he is kidding a lot.
A great accoustic version of crying tree
Plus much much more!
As for fixing the setlist. I think markpregen will do that othherwise I am going to do it tomorrow. Goodnight folks-
Hey monte, it was nice meeting you unofficially (we were standing side by side when billy talked to us, and spoke afterwords)
I want to send a big shoutout for those kind souls who are sacrificing their concert experience to hold still with their equipment for the benefit of everyone! I danced with Jack for most of the show as he was running video also. This project is just amazing. What an beautiful community we have here for so many to shoot, tape and share. I have easy access to a DAT if anyone has mics we can run. Send me a PM if you can help.
As far as peeps feeling let down by the fillmore shows, i just don't know what to say. I was lucky enough to get 9 tickets the morning they went on sale (over a two and half hour bout with TM, and feel so blessed. I realize that they might not be playing new material every night, and that they are playing a lot of the same songs, but its the freakin fillmore folks!!! I am still looking for tickets to the 27, 28, 31st and the 1st. Not worried in the least, but if anyone has an extra that they are not looking to profit from, I'd love to to get involved.
Even if billy doesn't feel as inspired here in sf, seeing the pumpkins in such an intimate and amazing venue is still such a treat. When I saw them back in 1992 and 1993 they were playing much larger venues (at least the shows that I saw).
monte, if the mood strikes you, please post that "zeitgeist" jimmy/billy footage
wow
garbanzo 07-23-2007, 09:08 AM hasn't felt inspired? maybe it's b/c you're playing the same stuff every night bill.
man...wish i was there for spiteface tease :) hope it was longer than the one we got at the last show--
this setlist actually sounds kinda cool
TicalFSU 07-23-2007, 09:39 AM hasn't felt inspired? maybe it's b/c you're playing the same stuff every night bill.
man...wish i was there for spiteface tease :) hope it was longer than the one we got at the last show--
this setlist actually sounds kinda cool
From talking to people that have been to both residencies and like Jeff said in his latest post....there is a different vibe in SF. It just isnt inspirational to Billy, apparently.
IMHO, Maybe its the fact that that Residency was one of the biggest things to happen in Asheville in a long time. It was like the Pumpkins community dominated life there for two plus weeks. In a major metropolitan, its like second page Entertainment section news. Even in a place like Tampa it wouldnt have dominated the city like it did Asheville.
JRiordan 07-23-2007, 09:55 AM So it WAS "Zeitgeist" (SONG)! Woo hoo!!!
But "not inspired"? Ouch
And it sounds bad about the ending of the interview... though the 3 nights I was there, Billy also left rather abruptly too. Did he seem irritated by the Mayo & setlist inquiries?
Quiet CD 07-23-2007, 10:33 AM The crowd was great last night, and supposedly it was one of the best shows for the band. Despite being largely similar setlist, a crowd that mostly showed up late... it was 10x better than last Sunday.
chrisothoulo 07-23-2007, 10:48 AM Hey monte, it was nice meeting you unofficially (we were standing side by side when billy talked to us, and spoke afterwords)
I want to send a big shoutout for those kind souls who are sacrificing their concert experience to hold still with their equipment for the benefit of everyone! I danced with Jack for most of the show as he was running video also. This project is just amazing. What an beautiful community we have here for so many to shoot, tape and share. I have easy access to a DAT if anyone has mics we can run. Send me a PM if you can help.
As far as peeps feeling let down by the fillmore shows, i just don't know what to say. I was lucky enough to get 9 tickets the morning they went on sale (over a two and half hour bout with TM, and feel so blessed. I realize that they might not be playing new material every night, and that they are playing a lot of the same songs, but its the freakin fillmore folks!!! I am still looking for tickets to the 27, 28, 31st and the 1st. Not worried in the least, but if anyone has an extra that they are not looking to profit from, I'd love to to get involved.
Even if billy doesn't feel as inspired here in sf, seeing the pumpkins in such an intimate and amazing venue is still such a treat. When I saw them back in 1992 and 1993 they were playing much larger venues (at least the shows that I saw).
of course its gonna be boring if you see them play 12 times in 2 weeks... thats crazy... I would think you kind of lose something seeing them that much.. You have nothing else to do ? seriously.
Eulogy 07-23-2007, 10:59 AM zeitgesit!!!
NICE.
see billy, just one surprise like that a night would keep people pretty happy. can't wait to see that shit.
JRiordan 07-23-2007, 11:04 AM Encore 1
Zeitgeist (Billy and Jimmy on acoustic guitars)
No Surrender (full band)
No Surrender = full band eh?? Nice! Give us more!
So the night when Billy says he was "not inspired" is the same night he did debut 2 new songs, and also teased Spiteface
vitaldust 07-23-2007, 11:27 AM I talked to Jeff in Asheville ;)
yeah me too...he was really nice...guess he doesn't like you west coast wierdies
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 11:30 AM Jeff just walks off. i always say hi to him he smiles and disapperas
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 11:39 AM The crowd was great last night, and supposedly it was one of the best shows for the band. Despite being largely similar setlist, a crowd that mostly showed up late... it was 10x better than last Sunday.
why do people like u don't say hi to me :(
always so sad when people that know me don't say hi :(
especially when they know what i look like :(
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 11:42 AM i know this might sound run of the mill but once again i ran into jimmy when i was going down stairs.
wHATcOLOR 07-23-2007, 11:44 AM why do people like u don't say hi to me :(
always so sad when people that know me don't say hi :(
especially when they know what i look like :(
yeah dudes, i was in the neighborhood and dropped by to say hi to monte!
that is AWESOME they played zeitgeist
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 11:45 AM o ya, the poster for today did not have the 19th date on it
Quiet CD 07-23-2007, 11:49 AM why do people like u don't say hi to me :(
always so sad when people that know me don't say hi :(
especially when they know what i look like :(
:confused: should I know what you look like?
markpregen 07-23-2007, 11:52 AM btw, Zeitgeist was not on the soundboard monitor.. it said "To Sheila".. either a last minute change or they didn't want me to spoil it
JRiordan 07-23-2007, 11:52 AM that is AWESOME they played zeitgeist
We are grasping for anything at this point.. but yeah Zeitgeist is such a nice track.
Listening to the album right now, enjoying it WAY better than when I listened a few days ago (when I was suddenly down on it). Man, if some of the mixing on this album was fixed up a tad, it would just be that much more awesome. Take DC for example... just quiet down the vocals a bit and it stands up to some of their greats. OK... off topic...
markpregen 07-23-2007, 11:54 AM :confused: should I know what you look like?
he's made some youtube videos (Askapumpkin and all things change video) but I guess you missed them.. anyway he's the only one wearing a tie at the show.. and he's always sitting up in the balcony videotaping
JRiordan 07-23-2007, 11:54 AM o ya, the poster for today did not have the 19th date on it
They probably had a ton of the original posters (no 19th) printed to begin with, so they are still using those. I bet they had to print the 19th ones at the last minute and only printed enough for that night
JRiordan 07-23-2007, 11:55 AM btw, Zeitgeist was not on the soundboard monitor.. it said "To Sheila".. either a last minute change or they didn't want me to spoil it
They are on to you dude! They're trying to help you enjoy it more!
asheville, and the weeks of anticipation leading up to those shows, are such a distant memory to me now
i am jealous of you guys, but i'm so glad that y'all are coming thru and taping and dsicussing the shows online
markpregen 07-23-2007, 11:59 AM They are on to you dude! They're trying to help you enjoy it more!
yeah I didn't recognize it either (like Monte).. I just wrote the repeated lyrics from the end in my phone from the end of the song "are there any real souls to find?" and checked out SPFC's Zeitgeist lyrics once I got home, because someone in this thread tipped me off it was probably Zeitgeist based on the fact it was BC/JC on guitars
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 12:07 PM :confused: should I know what you look like?
have you not seen any of my music videos?
maybe you didn't know but i am in the balcony every night in a white shirt & tie
TicalFSU 07-23-2007, 12:07 PM he's made some youtube videos (Askapumpkin and all things change video) but I guess you missed them.. anyway he's the only one wearing a tie at the show.. and he's always sitting up in the balcony videotaping
Ahhh....the all things change video.
JRiordan 07-23-2007, 12:12 PM Then I was just asking him in true netphoria style "do you even rember how to play porcelina?" And he looked at me and said "ya"
LMAO! It's like telling the Queen of England that her dress is ugly! That should piss Billy off enough to prove to us that he still can play any song he has ever written at the drop of a hat :)
The Jerry story (greatful dead)
Can't wait to hear this! On 7/18 when Billy asked "dont you all have a Grateful Dead cover band show to go to?" I wanted to ask him after the show what Jimmy was referring to when he thanked the GD in his myspace blog entry last fall.
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 12:15 PM i am uploading the Jerry Banter now to youtube
Quiet CD 07-23-2007, 12:17 PM have you not seen any of my music videos?
maybe you didn't know but i am in the balcony every night in a white shirt & tie
Sorry, not really into the fan scene... When I come on Saturday I'll be sure to say hi. Haven't watched any of the videos either.
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 12:19 PM ok people i am getting Zeitgeist ready for youtube..
Quiet CD 07-23-2007, 12:21 PM ok people i am getting Zeitgeist ready for youtube..
I really thought they were going to do 1979, and as much as I'm not horribly fond of of the album Zeitgeist, hearing them do the title track was probably more enjoyable than if they had played 1979.
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 12:34 PM Did anyone mention that he came out in his full outfit last nite. with the cloth and everything like in the recent music video. but took it off and went to his normal wear after that's the way (my love is)
Dogfighter28 07-23-2007, 12:38 PM Ask Billy if James wrote a good portion of the music on Siamese Dream ;)
funkyfetus 07-23-2007, 12:40 PM alright, so it was the first time seeing them since 2000 (berkeley & leno). i had a great time.....good to finally attend a proper rock and roll concert.
i got there at about 9:45 and the band came out at around 10:10.
bc came out in the dress/kimono and started off with united states. he look reeeaally tired during the first couple minutes.....not moving around much and just staring angrily at us. thankfully for us, his mood and energy went up and up as the show progressed.
highlights of the first electric set for me were: Lucky 13, GATC!, Hummer, Drown and In My Body. i really liked the way he reworked GATC.....it flows muuuuch better than the version they were playing in 2000. the middle section is awesome in how he builds the song up to the "she counted the spiders....as they crawled up inside her" part. In My Body was unrecognizable at first. again, i liked how he reworked this song. i never really liked it until last night. good stuff.
what killed it for me though, were these 3 drunks that were about 15 rows back....in front of Jeff. these guys were their late 40s and were super obnoxious, talking throughout most of the set. once the alcohol kicked in, they decided it would be cool to mosh between the 3 of them. luckily they ran out of beer and had to refill. how the hell did these guys get tickets?
Death from Above was awesome.....moment i'll never forget. bc's voice was spot on. very impressed. singing it with just a piano really brings out the vocal melody of the song much better than the album version. rotten apples and crying tree were well played too. again, i wasn't that big a fan of those songs, but bc converted me last night. With Every Light was one of the best songs of the night. again, a reworked machina song and sounded totally fresh and exciting.
then the band went back to electric and did a killer run of songs: Tonight, Tonight, Tarantula, Starz, Zero, Today. this obviously got the crowd going. the mood and atmosphere were peaking during this run. i was surprised by Tarantula last night. the live version is intense and the crowd really got into it.HMM....it just kept hitting harder and harder. bc reworked this song to the point where most of the vocal melody was changed and the only thing recognizable was the main riff.
zeitgeist with bc and jimmy. what a surprise! i don't remember much about No Surrender. it was with the full band. it was mellow.....along the same lines as Stellar .... no big soaring chorus.....no big electric guitars. the song was OK.the crowd was really loud during the encore breaks. clapping.....stomping their feet. bc seemed to appreciate it.
ended the show with muzzle. everyone sang along and the night was over. good way to end.
banter was good tonight. bc talked about how people can't recognize when he's joking.....so he now has to say "i was joking" after everything he says. his mood was good. he was smiling and laughing throughout most of that rant. he also made a reference to Bob....his stinky hippie roomate from way back when. there was also one part where he sings "the love that we create" and pointed right at Ginger. the look on her face was priceless.... it was 50% disgust and 25% uncomfortability and 25% blushing. there was also some joking about how he saw the ghost of jerry garcia. how he saw them when he was 14 . he joked about how he made eye contact with jerry garcia and how that was like the passing of the torch. jeff said he wasn't a big grateful dead fan....and bc said that a group of hippies were gonna kick his ass after the show.
ok. that's it for me. i'll be back for the last show 8/1. most notable for me were the 2007 versions of the machina songs, death from above, with every light, tarantula, zeitgeist and muzzle.
ok people i am getting Zeitgeist ready for youtube..
monte you rule
thanks
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 12:43 PM ok here is the jerry banter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkwH2kbSpCQ
markpregen 07-23-2007, 12:44 PM the opening act was Test Your Reflex.. they over-thanked SP, and mentioned how honored they were to do the cover of "Ava Adore" for Myspace.. but they didn't play it
Dogfighter28 07-23-2007, 12:44 PM he sings "the love that we create" and pointed right at Ginger.
Sounds like Bill and Ginger are porking. :smoke:
Sounds like Bill and Ginger are porking. :smoke:
uh oh
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 12:53 PM and he called ava adore eva adore.. way to go dip-
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 12:58 PM i am not sure i want to post death from above again.. does anyone care?
Machina12 07-23-2007, 01:00 PM I just finished listening to the new HMM at the 9:30 club (one posted on youtube). I just can't get used to it. Not after preparing myself with the videos of HMM from 99/00. I wonder what the setlists will be like for the tour after the residency shows.
Awkward Pause 07-23-2007, 01:01 PM Thanks for posting that video. Billy's hippie dance was awesome.
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 01:05 PM Ok here is the Zeitgeist video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8dEGZ5wbxY
just in case you don't know i edit the "Fillmore Video" sticky thread i have posted everything there. so go ahead and enjoy folks.. i am uploading the "Joking banter"
markpregen 07-23-2007, 01:13 PM that girl who is supposed to bring out/take away billy's lyric sheets always seems to screw up.. as she did again with zeitgeist
wHATcOLOR 07-23-2007, 01:15 PM jim looks like a muscular hobbit in that vid
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 01:23 PM Joking Banter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reUKl73NYF0
flavin 07-23-2007, 01:26 PM Thanks Monte, Zeitgeist the song is awesome.
harrow 07-23-2007, 01:30 PM thanks monte!
best song of the zeitgeist era (zeitgeist)
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 01:37 PM Spiteface tease & abandon Disarm story July 22nd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03ekKcR0RFE
JHeibel 07-23-2007, 02:11 PM No Surrender is a new song, and is quiet. i am not sure how my audio is for it, but i did get it on mini disc. so we will see.
Are we sure this isn't a cover of the Bruce Springsteen song?
http://www.brucespringsteen.net/songs/NoSurrender.html
markpregen 07-23-2007, 02:22 PM Are we sure this isn't a cover of the Bruce Springsteen song?
http://www.brucespringsteen.net/songs/NoSurrender.html
its not.. he didn't actually sing "no surrender" in the song at all, it was just on the soundboard monitor.. so again, that title could be incorrect, as we saw when the soundboard monitor said "to sheila" for "zeitgeist".. we'll see when they post the official setlist
markpregen 07-23-2007, 02:25 PM Spiteface tease & abandon Disarm story July 22nd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03ekKcR0RFE
:rofl: "obviously a hilary rodham clinton supporter"
"if you're a disgruntled fan, that of course is nothing new"
Billy could have totally been a stand-up comedian if this whole rock n roll thing hadn't worked out
Rickpat12 07-23-2007, 03:00 PM I'm loving the Billy banter these days. The Jerry Garcia one was really funny. Haha, thanks for the vids Monte, you rock!
JRiordan 07-23-2007, 03:26 PM ok here is the jerry banter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkwH2kbSpCQ
Hilaroius!!!!
And toward the end Jeff says that "Jimmy got me into them" (the Dead). See, I wanna know how long Jimmy has been a Dead fan! He thanked them in the myspace blog last fall!!!
vitaldust 07-23-2007, 03:29 PM Hilaroius!!!!
See, I wanna know how long Jimmy has been a Dead fan! He thanked them in the myspace blog last fall!!!
probably since he started doing the weed
JRiordan 07-23-2007, 03:32 PM Spiteface tease & abandon Disarm story July 22nd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03ekKcR0RFE
"if you're a disgrunted fan, that's nothing new"
^ He didn't add "that was a joke" to that one though!!
man, what a great show for banter
Cool As Ice Cream 07-23-2007, 03:45 PM Ok here is the Zeitgeist video
thank you very much!
reprise85 07-23-2007, 04:08 PM Thanks again for everything, Monte
MonteLDS 07-23-2007, 04:17 PM promo stuff
<img src="http://www.monteit.com/sp_promo.jpg">
wHATcOLOR 07-23-2007, 04:20 PM i want one of those snazzy promo neckties
headheldhigh 07-23-2007, 04:52 PM by the way, in case you're tempted to purchase an ultra exclusive drifter t-shirt and you're a larger guy, be forewarned that your $55 XXL will fit you like a medium, which if you have a gut will not be comfortable, as a matter of fact it will piss you off when you get back and try it on. esp considering the regular tour tshirt fits you just fine at XL.
if anyone that's going to shows could possibly help me out by getting me a $90 fillmore hoodie i'd appreciate it, i can pay pal you or send you a check or whatever. i wanted it, but my wife talked me out of it because "i already had the tshirt." but since the thing doesn't fit, could you help me out? i'd like something like that from the show that fucking fits...
MonkeyMan 07-23-2007, 05:02 PM How much are tour shirts?
bigdigs26 07-23-2007, 05:44 PM TEAM AUDIO is in the house.
Listening to the first mix of the show now.... it's great!
My team player will be here soon to post some clips of the audio.
Digs
JRiordan 07-23-2007, 06:08 PM ^ So you taped? Excellent, thanks!!
Looking forward to the details, and of course the eventual DVD :)
TuralyonW3 07-23-2007, 06:44 PM don't you wonder sometiiiiiiimes
BOUT SOUND AND VISION
reprise85 07-23-2007, 06:57 PM Awesome, thank you!
bigdigs26 07-23-2007, 07:02 PM Lisa Harriton is my MVP of the show.... for a good reason!!!!
bigdigs26 07-23-2007, 07:09 PM ZERO
http://www.yousendit.com/download/elNKUXV1dzhrWTgwTVE9PQ
This is just mix 1 of our mastering process.... give us time and feedback on the sound and we'll make it sound better.
Digs
smashapumpkin 07-23-2007, 07:30 PM after the show and after the band had left, ginger's brother was hanging out in front of the fillmore and talking about her
who else winessed this?
garbanzo 07-23-2007, 07:37 PM tour shirts are $50.
unless you're fat, in which case they charge you $55.
there's also a flag for $30.
a cd for $15.
a hoodie for $90.
i think that's it.
1100ww 07-23-2007, 07:39 PM ZERO
http://www.yousendit.com/download/elNKUXV1dzhrWTgwTVE9PQ
This is just mix 1 of our mastering process.... give us time and feedback on the sound and we'll make it sound better.
Digs
^ Thanks man, this sounds nice. Looking forward to hearing the rest of your work. What kinda setup did you guys use?
wally 07-23-2007, 07:54 PM jim looks like a muscular hobbit in that vid
I was thinking more of a pirate look, but hobbit works.
that guitar looks like a fucking toy in his hands
icculus 07-23-2007, 08:27 PM after the show and after the band had left, ginger's brother was hanging out in front of the fillmore and talking about her
who else winessed this?
the guy with the vip sticker and driver's licence taboot?
who knows, maybe it was him, but why would he try to completely avoid his sister and wait so long to escape to so-cal? she left before him, and he was still freaked about running into her :)
hoserama 07-23-2007, 08:33 PM ^ Thanks man, this sounds nice. Looking forward to hearing the rest of your work. What kinda setup did you guys use?
I'm the other audio taper from Sac. Go TEAM SOS! Definately thinking of hitting some more shows--we'll see how it goes!
It was sound professional hypercards (at943) to a nomad jb3...plus some pixie dust added to the final recording in the mixing.
Still adusting the sound a bit but getting there! Just a little boomy.
Here's Disarm:
http://download.yousendit.com/A3D1B856799CB79A
smashapumpkin 07-23-2007, 09:56 PM by the way, this show was fucking fantastic, i wish i could have caught the rest of the residency
smashing0 07-23-2007, 10:27 PM O ya smashing0 has picture of a zeigeist van. Its pretty funny
http://zombpic.the-zomb.com/images2/thumbs/thumb_1185248112.jpg (http://zombpic.the-zomb.com/gallery2.php?entry=images2/1185248112.jpg)
wHATcOLOR 07-23-2007, 10:31 PM if that's not a van perfectly made for a kidnapper, i don't know what is
smashing0 07-23-2007, 10:36 PM nah
if you get within 10 feet of it you can see inside the windows
Slurpee 07-23-2007, 10:59 PM Monte, I get all my desktop backgrounds from exploding dog as well... love that site.
MonteLDS 07-24-2007, 12:32 AM no surrender
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4zvOqZfT1A
reprise85 07-24-2007, 01:12 AM No Surrender seems like a good song for being written recently. Of course it needs work but I like it so far. Not as good as some of the others though.
MonteLDS 07-24-2007, 01:15 AM uploading The Crying Tree of Mercury
smashapumpkin 07-24-2007, 01:27 AM thanks for the link to no surrender, last night was the first time they played it right?
bugg33 07-24-2007, 01:32 AM tour shirts are $50.
unless you're fat, in which case they charge you $55.
there's also a flag for $30.
a cd for $15.
a hoodie for $90.
i think that's it.
Actually the regular shirts are $35 or $40 for XXL. Only the "Drifter" T is $50.
3 designs: New Style Zero (Black), Zeitgeist Coin (2 colors?), Zeitgeist cover shirt with tour cities on back (4 colors, green, red, white, yellow)
Also there is Zeitgeist Belt Buckle for $20. And Pins... I think $10 or 15 for a couple in a bag.
MonteLDS 07-24-2007, 01:35 AM Ok new video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAVPREfkmgg
headheldhigh 07-24-2007, 02:16 AM Actually the regular shirts are $35 or $40 for XXL. Only the "Drifter" T is $50.
3 designs: New Style Zero (Black), Zeitgeist Coin (2 colors?), Zeitgeist cover shirt with tour cities on back (4 colors, green, red, white, yellow)
Also there is Zeitgeist Belt Buckle for $20. And Pins... I think $10 or 15 for a couple in a bag.
Again, I'd like to point out that the Drifter shirts are really small. I fit a XL shirt just fine, but a XXL drifter shirt is spandex belly city. At $55 you'd think they could use real sizes.
WhiteHotSoul 07-24-2007, 02:20 AM The guitar on Surrender is really pretty. This song has a lot of potential.
MonteLDS 07-24-2007, 09:36 AM tour shirts are $50.
unless you're fat, in which case they charge you $55.
there's also a flag for $30.
a cd for $15.
a hoodie for $90.
i think that's it.
welcome to the past-
yawn-
http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=146202
wHATcOLOR 07-24-2007, 12:22 PM del
markpregen 07-24-2007, 01:43 PM http://www.Photo-Host.org/img/513206dinner_setlist_fillmore_night_5_large.jpg (http://www.Photo-Host.org)
they sold out of the sweet corn griddle cakes before i could get to them.. bastards
the grilled swordfish charmula was good though
stumpycat 07-24-2007, 11:57 PM I never knew it was possible to enjoy such kickass food at a rock concert. I mean, it's real food...like indian food, grilled fish and shit. Mmmmm.
JRiordan 07-25-2007, 03:30 AM $14 for a cheeseburger though?? The Miller High Life guy from the commercials needs to pay them a visit
markpregen 07-26-2007, 12:47 PM http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/gallery/pics/sf_7_22.jpg
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