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Smiley
01-31-2002, 05:11 PM
Why Am I So Tired - definitely an underrated song! But you gotta love that crazy soloing. Everybody, listen to it now.

There are also some great songs on MP, but you bastards never notice them because you're too busy fastforwarding to Moleasskiss. Everybody get out your CD-R's, and listen to the whole disc this time. Don't get me wrong... Moleasskiss is a great song. But I'd say the rest of the disc doesn't get the attention it deserves. Well maybe Mayonaise does, but you know what I mean.

Okay class... now what songs do you think?

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poised like an angel
01-31-2002, 05:38 PM
I say definitely Jesus is the Sun. Such a great song, as mellow and soothing as Rhinoceros without the heavy part.

CrestfallenTear
01-31-2002, 05:48 PM
Ditto


not to mention There it Goes, Crush, Luna, Night Mare and With Every Light

Jaggie
01-31-2002, 05:55 PM
Farewell & Goodnight, Moleasskiss, Stars Fall In.

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Mayfuck
01-31-2002, 05:59 PM
Alot of the pre-Gish stuff is overlooked. Jesus Is the Sun, already mentioned. Translucent is also a great song, atypical of the SP era it was recorded in. I love the way that song floats, and, jeez, a harmonica for fuck's sake!

Stars Fall In! When I first heard this song, I immediately put it on repeat. How about the 10.05.88 version of Under Your Spell which is louder, more dissonant and better than the studio version? East is almost as good as Cherub Rock.

And the most underrated pre-Gish song of all: Psychodelic. Pumpkins first attempt at making an epic song, and they hit the nail on the head.

NegaBenji
01-31-2002, 06:36 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Mayfuck:
Alot of the pre-Gish stuff is overlooked. Jesus Is the Sun, already mentioned. Translucent is also a great song, atypical of the SP era it was recorded in. I love the way that song floats, and, jeez, a harmonica for fuck's sake!

Stars Fall In! When I first heard this song, I immediately put it on repeat. How about the 10.05.88 version of Under Your Spell which is louder, more dissonant and better than the studio version? East is almost as good as Cherub Rock.

And the most underrated pre-Gish song of all: Psychodelic. Pumpkins first attempt at making an epic song, and they hit the nail on the head. </font>

Yes to this, and Cinder too - I love how that song flows. The alt. version of Smiley is infinitely better than the Peel Sessions release, it actually does the song justice. With You and Egg are great little acoustic songs too - they seem to capture the spirit of sp as a band

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Translucence
01-31-2002, 06:54 PM
Not Worth Asking

StillBecomingApart
01-31-2002, 06:57 PM
Shame, Window Paine, HEllo Kitty Kat

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Jaggie
01-31-2002, 06:58 PM
I agree with Mayfuck, Under Your Spell (in all its variations - live/studio) is just awesome.

the everlasting J
01-31-2002, 07:21 PM
East!!!!

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spaceboy147
01-31-2002, 07:32 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Jaggie:
Stars Fall In.

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Amen.

paranoid
01-31-2002, 08:14 PM
Infinite Sadness

i was listening to a lot of the old stuff today, coincidentally, and yes, EAST.

Egg
Purr Snikety
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Smiley
01-31-2002, 08:40 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Mayfuck:
Stars Fall In! When I first heard this song, I immediately put it on repeat. How about the 10.05.88 version of Under Your Spell which is louder, more dissonant and better than the studio version? East is almost as good as Cherub Rock.</font>

See, I don't think Stars Fall In and East are underrated... people are always praising them as the best '89 demos. But I definitely agree with what you said about Translucent... a harmonica part, and don't forget the little xylophone ending!

Another underrated song is Speed... not the Gravity Demos version, but live at the Double Door shows. What a great song. http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/smile.gif

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Cactuar
01-31-2002, 08:53 PM
It's all about jesus is the sun.

Mayfuck
01-31-2002, 09:37 PM
Damn, I forgot about Egg. That song is better than half the songs on Gish. *nod*

autumnNOCTURNE
01-31-2002, 09:58 PM
Slow Dawn.

the_marked
01-31-2002, 10:11 PM
Death of a Mind (marked)
Galapogos
The aeroplane flies high
pennies

Andrew Fogelsong
01-31-2002, 10:18 PM
Blue
Hummer
Soothe
Frail and Bedazzled
Jellybelly
Behold! The Nightmare

Mayfuck
01-31-2002, 10:22 PM
Uh, alot of those are OVERRATED

Smiley
01-31-2002, 10:26 PM
I feel like such an idiot... how could I forget Offer Up! Oh, and all of the Gravity Demos. Except for Jackboot... that one seems to get the love it deserves thanks to Vieuphoria.

And I actually think Drain is underrated, but I can see why some people don't like it... it took a while to grow on me.

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Stearnsie
01-31-2002, 10:28 PM
I would have to say... most of the songs from Pisces.

paranoid
01-31-2002, 10:42 PM
Laugh

and i have to say it, sparrow. yep. i've heard a lot of negativity towards this song so that's why i say "underated."



[This message has been edited by paranoid (edited 01-31-2002).]

snickerdoodles
01-31-2002, 10:47 PM
#1 underrated pre-gish song: With You



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Mayfuck
01-31-2002, 10:47 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Smiley:
I feel like such an idiot... how could I forget Offer Up! Oh, and all of the Gravity Demos. Except for Jackboot... that one seems to get the love it deserves thanks to Vieuphoria.

And I actually think Drain is underrated, but I can see why some people don't like it... it took a while to grow on me.

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Yeah, there are SO many SP songs that go unmentioned. I agree with Drain, Laugh and the Gravity Demos, ESPECIALLY Lucky Lad, Dizzle, Weeping Willowly and that one James track.

Just Between - Underrated Starchildren performance. I prefer the way the verse is sung as oppposed to the official Here Is No Why. That, coupled with the way the last chorus is song in the HINW MCIS demos would make a great track.

Autumn - I cannot emphasize this enough.

No one EVER mentions the last track on the MCIS electric demos that ended up being Permanence. Pretty stuff.

How about some James tracks? Bells, Winter, Falling, Take Care and My Advice all get thumbs up from me.

Smiley
01-31-2002, 10:52 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Mayfuck:
ended up being Permanence</font>

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Mayfuck
01-31-2002, 10:55 PM
Listen to it!

twice
01-31-2002, 11:02 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Mayfuck:
Uh, alot of those are OVERRATED</font>

Slurpee
01-31-2002, 11:09 PM
Sweet, Sweet
(really emotional, but it gets bashed because it's "too short")

In the Arms of Sleep
(I did a good thread about that one, it has a great feeling/creepy tone to it)

Cherry
(Seems to not be mentioned except in threads specifically about b-sides or TAFH; I think it has some of Billy's coolest lyrics)

To Forgive
(This song is special because it's not special - it just sets a wonderful atmosphere, and it has some great subtle drum/bass work)

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glued_on_wings
01-31-2002, 11:11 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Jaggie:
Farewell & Goodnight, Moleasskiss, Stars Fall In.

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All great songs..

Rock On..

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carter
02-01-2002, 12:20 AM
Apparently Rocket and Muzzle. Why was Landslide chosen for the compilation CD instead of one of the latter? For christ sakes, its a fucking cover.

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Slurpee
02-01-2002, 01:10 AM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by carter:
Apparently Rocket and Muzzle. Why was Landslide chosen for the compilation CD instead of one of the latter? For christ sakes, its a fucking cover.
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I love how you never post except to bitch about things people have bitched about a million times before.

pale_princess
02-01-2002, 01:14 AM
teh bells!

Deege
02-01-2002, 01:33 AM
THAT RAT IN A CAGE SONG!
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Wound, Age Of Innocense, & the 11-29-00 version of Ava Adore rules! (don't know why it would be underrated, but I felt like bringing it up. LOL...did they ever play it like that at any other shows?)

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Fathoms (unadored)
02-01-2002, 02:14 AM
Spaced: Its EERIE, its cold. Desolate. Ambigious. And ambigious = good!

Laugh: Lovely song

Lover: For a condensed description, see above.

Innocence: Yes

Nothing and Everything: Time has made this Sabbath Geek song a little haunting.

Graveflower
02-01-2002, 05:11 AM
Bugg Superstar

French Movie Theme

Heavy Metal Machine

Jaggie
02-01-2002, 01:21 PM
I thought of more even though many were mentioned:

- Basically all of Gravity Demos
- Laugh
- Because You Are
- Slow Dawn
- Crestfallen (one of my favs)
- Dross (probably one of their best rockers, up there with Mouths of Babes)
- Innosense
- Home
- Bleed
- Salt

That's about it for now. Great thread.

Injektilo
02-01-2002, 03:08 PM
The most underrated SP song ever has got to be Love (MCIS). When i was getting into SP in early 98, that was one of my top 5 songs for a while. You've gotta love the "when I lost my mind..." part.

GrungeGuy
02-01-2002, 03:49 PM
Bye June
HoneySpider
Vanity (MAD Version)
Blissed and Gone (Adore Demos Version)
I love the "stripped down" versions.

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Irrelevant
02-03-2002, 04:30 AM
Tales of a Scorched Earth. unnecessarily hated by the faceless masses.

Siva1213
02-03-2002, 04:57 AM
Whir...definitely Whir

Nate the Grate
02-03-2002, 04:44 PM
Tales of a Scorched Earth
Nothing and Everything (I can't get enough of it)
Not Worth Asking
Lily
Behold! The Night Mare
Destination Unknown

yes, that is some of 'em. oh yeah, There It Goes also.

ChoobieWoobie
02-03-2002, 05:30 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Mayfuck:


And the most underrated pre-Gish song of all: Psychodelic. Pumpkins first attempt at making an epic song, and they hit the nail on the head. </font>


They already had a couple of epics under their belt.... Sun, and Alabaster

armsofsleep
02-04-2002, 05:56 PM
stumbeline
in the arms of sleep
whir
luna
thru the eyes of ruby
stand inside your love

Irrelevant
02-04-2002, 07:04 PM
<font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by ChoobieWoobie:

They already had a couple of epics under their belt.... Sun, and Alabaster</font>

Alabaster is overrated. Salt is better. but i don't think Salt has leaked yet? oh yeah, wait, 10-31-89 did finally leak.