Title says it all. Also wondering if anyone who taped the show last night (7/18) at the Fillmore are going to be putting their video to disc, as well as anyone who is taping the SC show.

I really don't have anything of interest to trade or whatever. Not sure what the unspoken rules/etiquette are, I'm new to the whole concert thing, only been to three shows in my 23 years.

Thanks and apologies in advance for my lack of knowledge.

Title says it all. Also wondering if anyone who taped the show <b>last night (7/19)</b> at the Fillmore are going to be putting their video to disc, as well as anyone who is taping the SC show.

I really don't have anything of interest to trade or whatever. Not sure what the unspoken rules/etiquette are, I'm new to the whole concert thing, only been to three shows in my 23 years.

Thanks and apologies in advance for my lack of knowledge.


is this post from the future?

Why yes, yes it is! The DeLorean is parked out back if anyone needs a ride.

(Fixed now. :/)

refresh my memory, Doc. where we're going, do we need roads?

Monte might be taping Santa Cruz. I'm not sure

refresh my memory, Doc. where we're going, do we need roads?

Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.

Monte might be taping Santa Cruz. I'm not sure

Thanks for the info. If he is that would be fantastic. I've seen some of his footage from the Fillmore shows in other threads. Excellent stuff.

Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.


:rockon:

Great news everyone looks like we will geta sound check from here. The venu is nice.

hooray

so why can't billy just out sweet sweet tonight, monte? any reasons why he doesn't do that type of shit? or whir? that would be so easy and it'd bring the house down...

Wouldn't it be Day 5? Have fun Monte!

monte....i dont know if you're able to find out from the people there (or perhaps you saw the inside yourself), but is it all standing (with no seating)? i'm asking so i know when to stop drinking at the poet and grab food @ jack's (on lincoln, not jack in the crack) before it gets too crowded.

i'm asking so i know when to stop drinking at the poet and grab food @ jack's (on lincoln, not jack in the crack) before it gets too crowded.

Stop drinking... now! :rolleyes: Theres always drunk assholes at the shows, look you can get drunk and fondle a bench any day, how about remembering a show?

Oooh, and if you want to yell at billy drunkenly, go home and yell at the 50 posters plastered in your bedroom, and let the rest of us who come to hear music, listen to music.

Thanks!

Stop drinking... now! :rolleyes: Theres always drunk assholes at the shows, look you can get drunk and fondle a bench any day, how about remembering a show?

Oooh, and if you want to yell at billy drunkenly, go home and yell at the 50 posters plastered in your bedroom, and let the rest of us who come to hear music, listen to music.

Thanks!

i have 33 posters, dude.

Stop drinking... now! :rolleyes: Theres always drunk assholes at the shows, look you can get drunk and fondle a bench any day, how about remembering a show?

Oooh, and if you want to yell at billy drunkenly, go home and yell at the 50 posters plastered in your bedroom, and let the rest of us who come to hear music, listen to music.

Thanks!
:noway:
quit being a douche

monte....i dont know if you're able to find out from the people there (or perhaps you saw the inside yourself), but is it all standing (with no seating)? i'm asking so i know when to stop drinking at the poet and grab food @ jack's (on lincoln, not jack in the crack) before it gets too crowded.

there are seats in the stands.. and the picture on the website shows seats on the floor, but I am not sure if those are permanent or if they can have open floor tonight.. I called and left a voicemail with someone after navigating a really crappy menu system.. here's the # if you want to call yourself

http://www.ci.santa-cruz.ca.us/pr/civic/civicaudseatmap.html
administration (831)421-5240

there are seats in the stands.. and the picture on the website shows seats on the floor, but I am not sure if those are permanent or if they can have open floor tonight.. I called and left a voicemail with someone after navigating a really crappy menu system.. here's the # if you want to call yourself

http://www.ci.santa-cruz.ca.us/pr/civic/civicaudseatmap.html
administration (831)421-5240

muchos gracias, mark..

EDIT: appears the metro here is big on the show (even got a cover photo)

i have 33 posters, dude.

nice :)

:noway:
quit being a douche

And let your mom get crusty? no way!

And let your mom get crusty? no way!
worst poster ever

worst poster ever

<img src="http://whiskeyfire.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/troll.jpg">

worst poster ever

Whatever, if I rubbed some alcoholic hemorrhoid on your ass the wrong way, then I apologize. But when the person I said it to takes less offense than you do, you start to wonder.

Thus ends my rant about drunks ruining shows and you're obtuse need for some serious deep pipe laying.

I'm sure it will be open seating on the floor.

Any updates about the soundcheck?

They are playing some loud loud music!!!!
Someone said it was tina turner.
They are no banging the bass guitar. Sound check soon I hope. No sign of sp2

Stop drinking... now! :rolleyes: Theres always drunk assholes at the shows, look you can get drunk and fondle a bench any day, how about remembering a show?

Oooh, and if you want to yell at billy drunkenly, go home and yell at the 50 posters plastered in your bedroom, and let the rest of us who come to hear music, listen to music.

Thanks!
oh yes, that makes sense. everyone who's drinking before a show is an annoying drunk.

Whatever, if I rubbed some alcoholic hemorrhoid on your ass the wrong way, then I apologize.
you have no idea.

Staff told me the soundcheck will be w/o the band. And these 2 people that I just walked by were making out on the grass. :erm

COVER UR EYES!

burn the lies off their asses!

And these 2 people that I just walked by were making out on the grass. :erm
http://www.my-mistake.net/infinitepics/vidstills/toda076.jpg
http://www.my-mistake.net/infinitepics/vidstills/toda087.jpg

TODAY MUSIC VIDEO Makeout sessions, nice.

AHHHHH you beat me Boseph. By like 1 second :)

Sound check!!!!
Stars no vocals

does jimmy do his drum solo?

Goosmar
Come on let's go w/ lyrics

Gossamer again.

maybe that means i finally get to hear this 30 minute epic everyone is babbling about (since they didn't play it last nite).....

hooray monte for posting

Hey I just got on camera from the camera man

Hey I just got on camera from the camera man

nice! monte for the win!

i hate it when people complain about others being drunk at concerts, or singing along (yeah ok it does suck if you're taping) or dancing too much (fuck moshing in nondesignated areas tho).
i paid for my ticket just like you, so i'm gonna enjoy the concert how i like to enjoy it, not how you like to enjoy it.

i'm just bitter today because i live in santa cruz these days but i am visiting 'home' this weekend.

nobody paid to listen to you sing asshole, so shut the fuck up.

why you gotta hate?

rule of thumb - if you are taking away from someones enjoyment to enjoy the show yourself, you need to stop what you are doing

i hate it when people complain about others being drunk at concerts, or singing along (yeah ok it does suck if you're taping) or dancing too much (fuck moshing in nondesignated areas tho).
i paid for my ticket just like you, so i'm gonna enjoy the concert how i like to enjoy it, not how you like to enjoy it.

i'm just bitter today because i live in santa cruz these days but i am visiting 'home' this weekend.


yeah, everyone has the RIGHT, but does that make it right to scream at the top of your lungs between songs and yell the lyrics into the ears of the person right in front of you, or even chatter away when they play something new? There is something to be said for the quiet moments, especially acoustic. I guess what im getting at is: have a blast, but not at another's expense, its just obnoxious. Be respectful of others and the band you are lucky enough to see live in an intimate setting.

If you're on the fence for tonight b/c of scalper prices, don't think twice, as this should be a VERY easy ticket. Last night, the fillmore staff handed out tickets for free!

yeah, everyone has the RIGHT, but does that make it right to scream at the top of your lungs between songs and yell the lyrics into the ears of the person right in front of you, or even chatter away when they play something new?

Well, ya, but I don't even mind the drunk screaming "Billy!" or "PLAY (insert fav song)". I get that, loosen up, let go, have fun!

It's just the drunk assholes, who boo, or heckle the band. Fuck them. People who have yelled out "D'arcy" with Melissa or Ginger there just to be assholes.

At the BC solo show, tons of people were booing him and screaming "Pumpkins", half of them were even sober I think. I remember at the Wiltern when Zwan played, some drunk was such an asshole Billy had him thrown out. He was ruining it for everyone.

I have a drink or two at shows, but I never get blasted, and I never heckle ANYONE... except the Gin Blossoms, they deserved it. I don't stumble into people, I don't spit when I talk, right onto someone's cheek none the less. I don't grope girls, I mind my own, enjoy the show, get excited, cheer, but never overdo it. Hell I even hunch down because I realize not everyone is 6'1".

Thats all I ask at a show.

Now, go off and enjoy tonight's show! Cheer on the War Tapes cos they're really great, chant endlessly for Billy when the band walks off stage, and someone yell "JIMMY!" once for me :)

...and someone yell "JIMMY!" once for me :)

Done, and done. (The fact of the matter being that I'll be in a grocery store, not at a Pumpkins show, notwithstanding.)

Not sure about what we will do about the set list. The venu is much harder for mark to get to me. Its basicly a gym with seats see pictures on google

Not sure about what we will do about the set list. The venu is much harder for mark to get to me. Its basicly a gym with seats see pictures on google

It's essentially a high school gym with bleacher seating on the sides.

Not sure about what we will do about the set list. The venu is much harder for mark to get to me. Its basicly a gym with seats see pictures on google

Tell Mark to stop spoiling the setlist for himself and just enjoy the show!

Tell Mark to stop spoiling the setlist for himself and just enjoy the show!

^ Be fans for a night! ;)

^ There's no way I'd want to know what they're playing next. It's not that I'm holding my breath for Ruby every show and pissed off when each song that starts is NOT Ruby, but if I found out at the beginning that it was on the setlist, I probably would think about it more during the other songs, and of course, the surprise of the song suddenly starting would be ruined.

(Insert Jellybelly, Geek, Siva, etc. with the same reasoning)

At the BC solo show, tons of people were booing him and screaming "Pumpkins"


I just don't understand why peopled booed and yelled for pumpkins when they were there to see his solo show, it's not like they were tricked into thinking he was playing pumpkins songs, Billy made it perfectly clear that he wasn't going to do that; they knew exactly what they were going to go see, so why boo?

^ There's no way I'd want to know what they're playing next. It's not that I'm holding my breath for Ruby every show and pissed off when each song that starts is NOT Ruby, but if I found out at the beginning that it was on the setlist, I probably would think about it more during the other songs, and of course, the surprise of the song suddenly starting would be ruined.

(Insert Jellybelly, Geek, Siva, etc. with the same reasoning)

^ Total agreement. I was at Asheville #4, enjoying the show perfectly fine, and then got surprised by TAFH. I was bouncing up and down, haha.

So war tapes is on. This set list feels a lot more loser. Man the seats are pretty full the floor is like half cort filled

I have a DAT taper tonite (same guy from monday)
I don't think war tapes did that well tonite. They are almost done.
MarkPregen might not be able to help w/ the setlist tonite. I will do my best as I tape. But doubtful. Sorry everyone :( if it is east coast time. Go to bed imho I have tomorrow off :)
PS
I got 3 cds audio of the monday show so 2 shows can start to be audio synced soon. A lot more video from monday & sunday.

Thanks for the updates Monte, I hope you all enjoy the show!

ICCULUS, are you serious, the Fillmore staff were just throwing out tickets for free last night? As I said in the Fillmore show post from last night, the excitement of this residency has really fizzled.

Sneak Peak. Show starts soon
us,orchid,today,starz,zero,drown,hummer,doomsday,l ucky13,starla,33,rocket,to sheila,tonight tonight.

good ol' Starzero.

US > Orchid, in my experience, doesn't work. It loses the crowd. Why can't they just go US > Doomsday or US > Today?

I suppose the album is out now, maybe it'll be better...

they are playing Ruby!

hooray, nothing new. again.

Wow, it's dead. The show any better than last night?

Tarantula,siyl,disarm,1979,bwbw,thatstheway,hmm,en core1,deathfromabove

That's... disappointingly normal

at least they did Drown

Before disarm..."That should be the end of the concert but its not..bonus concert! I'm being generous"

Missed one... Gossamer is after dfa... Unclear if that will be end of show
1979 is full band tonight unlike last night (when it was solo acoustic)

Billys guitar is effed up again on datsdaway

"Planned" Encore2
Cherub

So much for taking risks, eh?
EDIT:
Not that I should complain, I'm sure I'd enjoy it if I was there.

Last night, the fillmore staff handed out tickets for free!


WTF!!! i called them around 945 or so and they said no, every single ticket was spoken for. when was this??!

Encore 1 was churb rock.
I assume that we get well you know what next..
30 mins of o no.

And uh 1 camera crap at the end of chureb rock. My mistake to have my arm on the rail.

This crowd is nutsd

Encoyr 2
Dfa to g

monte delivers once again!

to g

i'm going to assume this means they played a two gallants song

If I had multiple tickets to one of these residency shows, I would be selling them off at this point. You could hear all of the songs you need to over a 2 show period. And to think I was excited when they announced how daring these residencies would be.

ICCULUS, are you serious, the Fillmore staff were just throwing out tickets for free last night? As I said in the Fillmore show post from last night, the excitement of this residency has really fizzled.

why would i lie? they were cognizant of the scalpers trolling about with paper tickets... those fans who refused to pay exorbitant amounts were handed tickets, my close friend who i danced with all night being one!

i haven't read the thread from last night, but wasn't expecting either the live 105 show or the show tonight to live up to the the first three. Different audience completely last night, entirely different vibe since it was a radio contest (although they did a different poster for the live 105 show).

i have had the opportunity to see many shows at the santa cruz civic and honestly, i am not a very big fan of the venue, not because of the lack of alcohol (i can go 3 hours without beer :), but because of the sound. i decided to skip tonight so I can rest my body and ears, although it is still an amazing opportunity to see them in a small venue for cheap or free (santa cruz was a buyers market :)

if you really want to see a show and don't want to pay more than face, just get down there early, and you'd be suprised how many opportunities there are!

So nothing new huh? :(

At least Monte said the crowd was "nutzd". I'm assuming that's good.

How was show??

Best show so far. But maybe just b/c my camera was good to me.

awesome monte! thanks again for hooking eric up with a ticket! he called me on his way home and we just finished talking on the phone about the show.

he has officially been bitten by the SP bug. wants to come stand in line at filmore next week with us and try to scour for a ticket. :smoke:

BTW -- did they ship all the light rigs to Santa Cruz?

BTW -- did they ship all the light rigs to Santa Cruz?

I do believe it was posted earlier that they did. Someone asked Billy this after the Fillmore show on 7/18 and he turned around and asked a lady (the tour manager, whose name I forget). I think he said they were going to. Of course, someone who was AT the show tonight can answer

Still not sure why this show was added. My initial reaction was, "why are they putting this in the middle of the Fillmore residency?". But I guess the residency isn't exactly "sacred", and they had the opportunity to do another show for more fans in Santa Cruz, so they booked it.

But here's looking forward to the rest of the Fillmore run... I'm now considering returning on 7/28 instead of 7/30 if I can find a ticket :)

nice. i'll be there 07.27 and 07.28.

just got back from the concert. i met monte too, i told him i was a lurker since i dont post much, haha. he's a real cool guy, he even used up some of his precious battery supply to show me the funny circus intro that billy and band came out to on the 19 show.

war tapes impressed me, they dressed really well, i liked their animated guitarist, the bassit well she looked and played the part of death, and the lead singer has a real good stage presence and also managed to play tug of war with his mike a couple of times when it got stuck, the dudes got good aim too, cuz he managed to throw his cap from his water bottle about 6 rows deep and hit some kid in his head. also at the end of the set the drummers sticks flew in the crowd and the lead singer won the war with the mike by slamming it down to the ground.

pumpkins hella rocked, some interesting banter was when billy thanked the fans for the success of zeitgeist, mentioned they were #2 in america, #2 in japan, and #1 in canda. billy again said that there hasnt been any good music since they left 7 years ago, asked jeff for approval jeff nods yes, and billy thanked us for supporting them and joining their army. said someting about american idol and shit.

while on my way to the restroom i saw some old dude deeply sniffing some orchids, i thought that was weird until later i saw the same orchids being thrown on stage after bleeding the orchid.

billy was in a good mood, throwing picks at the audience, and acting goofy,

once as they were about to leave the stage, billy almost slipped and was about to use ginger to break his fall but he recovered and asked ginger if she was ok.

one cute moment after billy sang death from above was when he walked over to a lil girl who was being held up on her dad's shoulders, and she was holding a picture of some sorts, and billy came over and the girl handed him the picture, and billy smiled and put it down by the drums.

the crowd was real good, and packed, it was also really silent when it was just billy on the guitar.

the jam at the end of gossamer rocked everybodys socks off, it got so loud. billy was having a huge smile while playing with jimmy as they both fed off each other at the end of the gossamer jam.

billy came out by himself and went to each end of the stage and thanked all his fans. it was my first concert experience and i ended up having alot of fun. i cant wait until i get to see them again.

im glad monte liked it so much.. i am so jaded after 5 consecutive shows

yes the lighting rig was there (same lighting as fillmore)

at least I got to check out the santa cruz beach boardwalk and world-famous Mystery Spot, so I never have to drive that road to Santa Cruz for the rest of my life.. ugh

Mystery Spot?

Mystery Spot?

ok maybe not world-famous, but i always see their damn bumper stickers.. its definitely better for kids though

http://www.mysteryspot.com/

oh yeah, i've heard of that....
was it a joke, or is it actually strange?

i'm still drunk & high from some party after the show....
but the personal highlights for me was: finally hearing this gossamer song (i like it, but i wouldn't stand during this song the next time) and witnessing 33 & rocket acoustic.

the personal low-points: getting elbowed in the face, getting a chick's leg and tits dropped on my head, and not having billy introduce the band (again)...

they were missing some lights. either they couldn't find a proper place to put them OR it got broken in transit.

ah......one more thing to add to the highlights: i finally managed to acquire something i wanted to get during the MCIS tour: billy's guitar pick (from gossamer song).

well.....my sp v2.0 trek comes to an end. 2 shows (costing me $200 bucks for 4 tickets, gas, parking, & food) totalling about 265 minutes of sp music. not too bad. and maybe i'll win a ticket and probably do it once again. that'll make up for missing adore and the machina tours. overall, i was happy. i'm not going to nitpick too much. i honestly (& surprisingly) got what i expected: a arena-like rock show with better corgan vocals.

thanks for all your help, info, kindness, & generosity on this board. i'll probably reply to postings again once in a while. i also look forward to monte's masterpiece once its done (definately something to cherish for time to come).

-nick2k

EDIT: p.s....lisa is banging hot.

i have just noticed that i have never given a deep review of the day....

so here it is "...No one doubts the camera eye "

THanks Monte and those that gave reviews. Looksl ike last night was a fun one. Can't wait for the boots.

Thanks for the updates Monte and thanks to Scarecrow for the review it was really nice, and I loved the part about the little girl and the picture, I thought it was so sweet :)

billy again said that there hasnt been any good music since they left 7 years ago
every time someone says this i want to slap them in the face

This was my fourth show out of the five in CA so far (I skipped 7/16), and this show has topped them all so far. The crowd was totally insane; completely different energy from the Fillmore shows. I usually hate obnoxious meathead concert-goers that shove their way to the front, act like shitbags, and only cheer for the hits, but the combined energy of these people lit up the room and the band. It also helped that the setlist was really tight and mostly free of jam songs (BSBT, GATGC, Silverfuck, etc); the quasi-fans stayed engaged the whole show (well, except for Gossamer of course). The end result was a much higher energy band feeding off the enthusiastic crowd. I'll be glad to see them again at the Fillmore and not have to deal with moshing and crowd surfing, but the Santa Cruz show was a nice one-off change of pace.

This was my fourth show out of the five in CA so far ..... The crowd was totally insane; completely different energy from the Fillmore shows.

So you have gone to several shows and never once bother to say hi. like i am that hard to spot :(
no love :(

So very true about the crowd. that is why i will release BWBW later today. just have to work with the audio a little.

i am going do my best to help get some video out soon w/ the audio source i recently got

oh yeah, i've heard of that....
was it a joke, or is it actually strange?

lots of cheesy jokes on the "tour".. who knows, the trees curve inward toward the center, which ive never seen before.. probably all optical illusions

Went to the show last night at Santa Cruz. It was my first show.

Good show. The acoustics were pretty good, but I think it could have been a little better. I wish the guitar was a little louder during some of the earlier harder songs, like "Zero." That didn't seem to be a problem after when they went back to playing harder songs, after the slower song set. But I still wanted it to be a little louder during "Cherub Rock."

Good setlist.

Can someone tell me about this "Gossamer" song? Is it new? Is it on any CDs? I guess it was the song at the end? I'm not the most knowledgeable fan.

Can someone also redo the setlist in one post, and show where the encores were?

Thanks!

I like it when bands introduce themselves, was disappointed they didn't yesterday. But there was good banter.

Can someone tell me about this "Gossamer" song? Is it new? Is it on any CDs? I guess it was the song at the end? I'm not the most knowledgeable fan.Can someone also redo the setlist in one post, and show where the encores were?

gossamer is a new song, unreleased (no studio recording yet), yes it was the last 30 minute song..unclear if it was written with only JC/BC or with the full band (although maybe someone else knows).. probably only JC/BC, haha

United States
Bleeding the Orchid
Today
Starz
Zero
Drown
Hummer
Doomsday Clock
Lucky 13
Starla
33
Rocket
To Sheila
Tonight Tonight
Tarantula
Stand Inside Your Love
Disarm
1979
Bullet With Butterfly Wings
That's The Way
Heavy Metal Machine
Encore 1
Cherub Rock
Encore 2
Death From Above
Gossamer

(nevermind)

Thanks a lot markpregen!

I didn't know much about the new album, except for "Tarantula", and I thought that was just average.

But the other new songs were pretty good. I'm definitely going to give the album another look.

One last question. Do you know if there's a link which shows the discography of the new album, but also the length of time the tracks were supposed to be?

US > Orchid, in my experience, doesn't work. It loses the crowd. Why can't they just go US > Doomsday or US > Today?

I suppose the album is out now, maybe it'll be better...

I also agree that U.S. didn't work and was too long at the beginning.

i'm still drunk & high from some party after the show....
but the personal highlights for me was: finally hearing this gossamer song (i like it, but i wouldn't stand during this song the next time) and witnessing 33 & rocket acoustic.



EDIT: p.s....lisa is banging hot.


I agree, I also wouldn't stand during Gossamer. Pretty good song though.

One last question. Do you know if there's a link which shows the discography of the new album, but also the length of time the tracks were supposed to be?

<a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?i=258931679&id=258931677&s=143441">
<img height="15" width="61" alt="Smashing Pumpkins - Zeitgeist" src="http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/images/badgeitunes61x15dark.gif"></img>
</a>

sweet! i already heard from the person who taped the Santa Cruz show! so we should have some good good footage soon!

<a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?i=258931679&id=258931677&s=143441">
<img height="15" width="61" alt="Smashing Pumpkins - Zeitgeist" src="http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/images/badgeitunes61x15dark.gif"></img>
</a>

Thanks again for the iTunes link.

Why does that display a song called "Stellar" though?

Anyone know how long "Death From Above" is? Are people buying the import version to get that song?

Thanks again for the iTunes link.

Why does that display a song called "Stellar" though?

Anyone know how long "Death From Above" is? Are people buying the import version to get that song?

http://www.spfc.org/songs-releases/discog.html?discog_id=199

So you have gone to several shows and never once bother to say hi. like i am that hard to spot :(
no love :(

So very true about the crowd. that is why i will release BWBW later today. just have to work with the audio a little.

i am going do my best to help get some video out soon w/ the audio source i recently got

You have audio for all 5 shows already? I know there was a torrent for Show 1, but other than that I haven't seen anything. Was the audio only sent to you and then will be torrented by the taper later? Or did I miss the new audio? Thanks Monte, you da man!

so far audio for the following shows
7/15
7/16
7/20

(need audio for all other dates 7/19 & 7/18)

also need audio for 7/22, 7/24, 7/25, 7/27, 7/28, 7/30, 7/31, 8/1, but none of those have surfaced yet

7/28 is possibly taken care of. along with 7/30 & 7/31 if i recall.. worst case people i have to do audio taping via the mini disc player and not sure that will be that good

Thanks Monte, any idea when 7/16 and 7/20 audio will be available for us?

pumpkins hella rocked, some interesting banter was when billy thanked the fans for the success of zeitgeist, mentioned they were #2 in america, #2 in japan, and #1 in canda. billy again said that there hasnt been any good music since they left 7 years ago, asked jeff for approval jeff nods yes, and billy thanked us for supporting them and joining their army. said someting about american idol and shit.

Haha, nice. So at the Fillmore night #1 it was "thanks to the 7 people who bought Zeitgeist", and last night some real thanks? haha. He should've mentioned it was overall the #1 album in the world (I read this on the main SP discussion board). That was good to find out.

Thanks Monte, any idea when 7/16 and 7/20 audio will be available for us?

Might as well just wait for the DVDs... I mean, listening is OK especially if it is a good tape, but it will be much more enjoyable seeing the video synched with the audio.

i think i've heard gossamer live too much.. I can't get it out of my head... "i dont wanna wanna die i dont wanna wanna die, i dont wanna wanna try, you dont even even try" i'm not even sure which of those he really says, I think I'm just making up other lyrics that rhyme in my own head.. ahhhh

speaking of songs without published lyrics.. has anyone made an attempt to transcribe lyrics for Gossamer or any of the new songs from Asheville? It would seem not incredibly difficult... SPFC just says "unavailable" for the lyrics for all those songs.. Gossamer doesn't even have that many lyrics right?

"two crows in 52 fields.. one crow says to the other crow, you seen my love? nah man, haven't seen her!" (*crow/billy shrugs*)

billy billy billy

I haven't seen anyone mention, but the free-form rant in Gossamer reminds me of *gasp* Spilled Milk. Not that the songs are too similar, but both do often feature a Jimmy drum solo, and some heavy jamming

http://www.spfc.org/songs-releases/discog.html?discog_id=199

Thanks again.

Is "Drown" another unreleased song?

I'm a little surprised they didn't get any songs from Gish. They got at least one song from every other album.

Thanks again.

Is "Drown" another unreleased song?

:rofl:

Drown was on The Singles Soundtrack and also on Greatest Hits.

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I recorded all of last night's show including most of War Tapes (the audio is surprisingly decent) and managed to 'sneak' my introductory SLR in. Unfortunately the uptight security told me "Enough." during the first song. No worthwhile photos since some agitating hardcore kid (who shoved his way in front of us) kept hitting my camera with his God damn elbow. What got me was he had the nerve to look back at me as if I wasn't supposed to be there.

Anyhow, I'm assuming Windows Movie Maker is an alright program to edit my video into clips?

Drown was on The Singles Soundtrack and also on Greatest Hits.

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I recorded all of last night's show including most of War Tapes (the audio is surprisingly decent) and managed to 'sneak' my introductory SLR in. Unfortunately the uptight security told me "Enough." during the first song. No worthwhile photos since some agitating hardcore kid (who shoved his way in front of us) kept hitting my camera with his God damn elbow. What got me was he had the nerve to look back at me as if I wasn't supposed to be there.

Anyhow, I'm assuming Windows Movie Maker is an alright program to edit my video into clips?
what did you record with

Drown was on The Singles Soundtrack and also on Greatest Hits.

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I recorded all of last night's show including most of War Tapes (the audio is surprisingly decent) and managed to 'sneak' my introductory SLR in. Unfortunately the uptight security told me "Enough." during the first song. No worthwhile photos since some agitating hardcore kid (who shoved his way in front of us) kept hitting my camera with his God damn elbow. What got me was he had the nerve to look back at me as if I wasn't supposed to be there.

Anyhow, I'm assuming Windows Movie Maker is an alright program to edit my video into clips?


wait wait, you video taped too? i got audio but can always use more video footage..

I recorded with a Sony DSC-S600. Point and shoot, only 6 MP.

speaking of songs without published lyrics.. has anyone made an attempt to transcribe lyrics for Gossamer or any of the new songs from Asheville?
maybe if somebody gets a chance to talk to Billy after one of the shows, they could ask if he'd consider getting lyrics for the new songs up on smashingpumpkins.com.

and if he says yes, then add "Gish too".

wait wait, you video taped too? i got audio but can always use more video footage..

I actually wasn't planning on recording, but ended up trying it. My video isn't that great. If I wasn't holding it up with my right arm, it was with my left or being passed to my boyfriend to take over so I could rest a minute. It's pretty shaky.

I did a quick Google search and downloaded VirtualDub and the Deshaker plug-in thinking maybe that'll make things appear more stable.

But yeah, I'll upload some clips. More than willing to share with you.

I actually wasn't planning on recording, but ended up trying it. My video isn't that great. If I wasn't holding it up with my right arm, it was with my left or being passed to my boyfriend to take over so I could rest a minute. It's pretty shaky.

I did a quick Google search and downloaded VirtualDub and the Deshaker plug-in thinking maybe that'll make things appear more stable.

But yeah, I'll upload some clips. More than willing to share with you.

That's awesome, did you have a black video camera? I saw someone doing it, within the first few rows, towards the center.

Any video you got would be awesome.

Drown was on The Singles Soundtrack and also on Greatest Hits.



Wow, thanks. I knew about the Pearl Jam, and Alice In Chains songs from that soundtrack, but wow, SP too! So that's where I'd heard it before a few times. Further proof that the people that recommended that soundtrack knew what they were talking about.

I recorded all of last night's show including most of War Tapes (the audio is surprisingly decent)

Just to confirm... your only audio source is the camera right? Or did you have actual microphones?

Thanks either way

I was to the far, far right first row. I had a black camera, but it wasn't a video camera. The camera I was using was small and silverish.

Just to confirm... your only audio source is the camera right? Or did you have actual microphones?

Thanks either way

Camera is the only source of audio, no mic. Far too poor and uninformed for that sort of thing.

i can't imagine what it's going to take for monte and markpregan to recuperate after they've heard gossamer 11 times. that's like five and a half hours of the same song. yikes.

the part i really enjoyed when i saw it was jim's drum solo. everyone else on the stage was turned to face him, just staring. how awesome

i can't imagine what it's going to take for monte and markpregan to recuperate after they've heard gossamer 11 times. that's like five and a half hours of the same song. yikes.

the part i really enjoyed when i saw it was jim's drum solo. everyone else on the stage was turned to face him, just staring. how awesome

yeah the drum solo is cool.. and i will need some sort of therapy after 11 gossamers, thats for sure.. something to repair all the lies burned off my soul

Last 10 minutes of the show.

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booya gossamer that has been a while

cool thanks catharsis

wow you weren't kidding about the footage, but you used a digital camera :( not ay kind of tape :(

not to be all douchey, but what exactly is daring about these shows now

Its not douchey at...there has been nothing daring the last few shows..nothing written day of..no old classics played.

Anyone have HMM or SIYL from santa cruz they can post?

not to be all douchey, but what exactly is daring about these shows now

Gossamer. (Not to be a smart-ass, but, I think that is the correct answer. They work on it very frequently and it changes.)

wow you weren't kidding about the footage, but you used a digital camera :( not ay kind of tape :(

All digital camera. :/

I do have a camcorder that I was thinking of bringing to the last show if I can make it, but it's a somewhat old Sony Handycam DSC-TRV730. It takes Hi-8 tape.

All digital camera. :/

I do have a camcorder that I was thinking of bringing to the last show if I can make it, but it's a somewhat old Sony Handycam DSC-TRV730. It takes Hi-8 tape.

buy one at costco, use it for the show, return it the next day.. :) no restocking fees at costco, last time i checked

Gossamer. (Not to be a smart-ass, but, I think that is the correct answer. They work on it very frequently and it changes.)

yeah, but one daring performance =/= a daring concert

i mean, it's be so fucking easy to have his fanbase jizz all over the place. just toss in a ruby or porcelina or something.

Santa Cruz wasn't part of the residencies thus is not obligated to be daring...

buy one at costco, use it for the show, return it the next day.. :) no restocking fees at costco, last time i checked

If I had the money I'd be down at Costco or Best Buy picking one up right this minute. I'm just trying to scrape enough money together so I make it to the last show as it is, haha. :)

Hay catharsis talked to you on youtube about the concert.

I do have very limited recordings of the show... but it is from my digital camera and to save on space on my SD card the recordings range from 3 seconds to about 2 min. But I had an amazing spot with no one in front of me next to the stage on the bleachers. I did capture every single song... even if it was 3 seconds. I was trying to figure out how to combine all of the clips into one long video, with minor intros to each song.

How can I do this, since I have no knowledge of video editing but I am very familiar with computers.

Thanks

Phoenix

p.s. anyone have the entire concert up yet (audio/video)?

Oh and I should say that this was my 1st concert.... ever.... and it was AMAZING!!!! You guys should go to the Pumpkins site and post a review of your experience there ( http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/tour_53 ) or go to blamo and do the same ( http://blamo.org/sp/tour/1217.html ) its nice to get other fans involved and talking about the shows all over the internet :-)

http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/gallery/pics/santacruz_7_20.jpg

So what song do you guys want?

Anything but Gossamer

So what song do you guys want?

Anything but Gossamer

Mayonaise (soundcheck).. Eye (soundcheck) would also be acceptable ;)

HMM :D

HMM :D

are you sure? its almost 10 mins long

if we're doing a long song, make it Starla

i think i will do bleeding the orchid.

i think i will do bleeding the orchid.

All right, thanks.

(My vote was for "Disarm", "To Sheila", or "Cherub Rock." But anything is cool.)

i am going need to find a better converter for my MTS files.

Studio 11 seems to suck!

On a side note i am uploading to MegaUpload instead of SendSpace because it says their is no download limit. which i wonder if it will stand true.
Bleeding The Orchid is 635MB and a link will come up tomorrow morning wen i wake up.. good night

i am going need to find a better converter for my MTS files.

Studio 11 seems to suck!

On a side note i am uploading to MegaUpload instead of SendSpace because it says their is no download limit. which i wonder if it will stand true.
Bleeding The Orchid is 635MB and a link will come up tomorrow morning wen i wake up.. good night

I think if files reach a certain size on Megaupload, you need a premium account to download them.

wow you weren't kidding about the footage, but you used a digital camera :( not ay kind of tape :(

What do you see are the advantages or benefits to tape cameras vs. digital video cameras?

a digital camera is waya lower quality than something like DV, 3CCD, or even Hi8.

i am going need to find a better converter for my MTS files.

Studio 11 seems to suck!

On a side note i am uploading to MegaUpload instead of SendSpace because it says their is no download limit. which i wonder if it will stand true.
Bleeding The Orchid is 635MB and a link will come up tomorrow morning wen i wake up.. good night

MonteLDS, did you ever get a link up for this song, or were there some problems? Were you going to post a link in this thread?

Thanks!

a digital camera is waya lower quality than something like DV, 3CCD, or even Hi8.

Oh whoops, I didn't see the poster said "digital camera", I was thinking he used a digital video camera. And then I thought MonteLDS preferred a tape camera over that. My mistake, I didn't read properly.

MonteLDS, did you ever get a link up for this song, or were there some problems? Were you going to post a link in this thread?

Thanks!

http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=147916

Man this show is FUN to watch!

Man this show is FUN to watch!

Because of the crazy crowd?

Because of the crazy crowd?

you're not dead! not the crowd as much as it was just like an amazing show. the band looks so happy the footage is good too

Yeah, I checked myself into a detox facility after 8/1.

I look forward to the DVD. That show definitely had a much different vibe than the Fillmore.