mayo, soma...I Am One I guess but i don't really need to hear that one. although it would be nice, i'm just sayin'

Good question. I think we should watch/wait for more performances and see if they're going to come in time, or what.

i had a dream that i was at a show and they played soma

:erm:

I heard mayonaise during soundcheck during asheville

That's promising.

mayo, soma...I Am One I guess but i don't really need to hear that one. although it would be nice, i'm just sayin'


He soundchecked Mayo.

He soundchecked Mayo.

if he soundchecked it at asheville, then i don't really see if that's all that relevant.

i have meant to ask billy this.. but i always forget. i will try again tonite

why woudl they soundcheck a song if they had no intentions of playing it?

Secondly, didn't you make this same thread yesterday?

why woudl they soundcheck a song if they had no intentions of playing it?

Secondly, didn't you make this same thread yesterday?

well if they soundcheck it at asheville and then leave asheville, then i don't really see how that indicates that they'll ever play it.

and no, i didn't.

they play shame.

The first song we tackle (post-Matt) is one I had just written, first thing in the morning…by the time we finish recording it, the song will not yet be 3 hours old…I get to the studio, and program a very basic beat into my drum machine (the same lucky beatbox we used on ‘1979’)…the 3 of us play live out in the room as I sing the frosty, ghost vocals into a mike that is usually used for recording guitars…the song is called “shame”, and I repeat this word over and over again, stuttering (ala “Changes” by Bowie or “My Generation” by The Who)…we only play the song 2 times for practice (not even all the way thru), and I yell “roll it”, wait for the signal (a thumbs up from Howard, we’re rolling) and press ‘start’ on the drum machine…*ba-ba boom, ba-ba boom*…D’arcy’s bass starts out first, and is immediately out of tune…I wait, and then my guitar slowly chimes in, loaded with delays as James uses a device that makes his guitar sustain forever (like a violin)…I am playing a rare maple-necked Jaguar, and the sound is thin and achy…I am singing for my life, so raw is my being now that goose bumps cover my whole body…it is fear and ecstasy all rolled together, and it engulfs me…the band of 3 feel unified, molten, rides the vision slow…this is the sound you can only get when you have played for so many years together that you play a sort of “in time, out of time” feel…if you were to isolate each instrument on it’s own, you would probably say that no one is playing particularly well at all…but somehow together, we create a flying alchemical sound of transformation, and we think little of it as this magic trick has happened so many times…the lyrics are a sketch, scrawled on a piece of loose paper, and I am not even sure what I am singing about as I voice them, but I reach for each word like a prayer…it is like a watching a movie that you have created but you do not know how it will all end…the music, the song seems to go on forever, and you hope silently that you do not make a mistake that will break the spell…and then, fade, it’s over…there is uncomfortable silence between us as the ghost leaves the room…everyone unknowingly returns to the role they are supposed to play in this story…but in that moment gone, we are one…

if he plays shame, he can as well play the james-songs.
or, to put it differently, if he doesn't play any of the james-songs, i'm not going to see that as a point he's trying to make.

they play shame.



if he plays shame, he can as well play the james-songs.
or, to put it differently, if he doesn't play any of the james-songs, i'm not going to see that as a point he's trying to make.

uh, that was cool and all, but james doesn't have any writing credit on shame. so what are you getting at?

well if they soundcheck it at asheville and then leave asheville, then i don't really see how that indicates that they'll ever play it.



He soundchecked it, which means he is not above playing James co-written songs.

If you think just because they didnt play it asheville, means that he won't play it down the road, I think you are wrong.

The soundchecks sounded like they were more about rehearsing/practice. i heard him playing Eye, some other stuff.. Billy calling out notes and keys and just straight jamming.

when he started Eye up it was interesting because he didn't play right away... he went over different scales and shaving off a few notes everytime he started over and changed the timing which eventually became intro to Eye. lol this process took maybe max of 2 minutes

He soundchecked it, which means he is not above playing James co-written songs.

If you think just because they didnt play it asheville, means that he won't play it down the road, I think you are wrong.

no, it means he's not above soundchecking james co-written songs.

PLAY SOMA!

no, it means he's not above soundchecking james co-written songs.


Purpose?

Purpose?

well apparently it wasn't to make sure they could get the song to work at the orange peel.

uh, that was cool and all, but james doesn't have any writing credit on shame. so what are you getting at?

did you read what CoolAsIceCream quoted? its an excerpt that showcaes the importance of unity of the 3 memebers (james, darcy, billy) in regards to the song shame. so even without a writing credit, i think he is trying to say that if a song that personal to all 3 members is being played...then anythign is up for grabs.

however, i guess that doesn't address the legality of the situation with the james songs.

well apparently it wasn't to make sure they could get the song to work at the orange peel.

Some have described it as a rehearsal as well. Would that change your mind?

however, i guess that doesn't address the legality of the situation with the james songs.

i don't think it's a matter of legality.

and regardless of how special recording Shame was, Corgan wrote it. it's his song to play. and he re-worked it anyway.

...and if billy called it a rehearsal, then i'd look at things differently. but if some random fan called it a rehearsal i wouldn't. maybe he's saving it....but what for?

Chicago.

maybe.

Chicago.

maybe.

i fucking hope so