View Full Version : Anybody else annoyed they dropped the "the"?


Ugly
07-13-2007, 01:10 AM
I specifically made it a point to label all my SP stuff "The Smashing Pumpkins" and now they go and are renewed and revived and its all "Smashing Pumpkins" now. Goddamnit!

Skylarq
07-13-2007, 01:10 AM
they stopped being british

The Night Mare
07-13-2007, 01:11 AM
Yes! I was really bothered by that.

It's almost as bad as the un-Pumpkins song titling. Or how about the fact that Billy actually explained why Tarantula was called that (see SPFC where they have a quote from him). That really bothered me too.

al0137
07-13-2007, 01:13 AM
I specifically made it a point to label all my SP stuff "The Smashing Pumpkins" and now they go and are renewed and revived and its all "Smashing Pumpkins" now. Goddamnit!

Yeah.. I know dude. They were never the same after they dropped the "THE". It's like 'Smashing Pumpkins' are a mere shell of the once great 'The Smashing Pumpkins'.

Very good observation. It's threads like these that make Netphoria so essential and important in our current culture of band-related message boards.

TuralyonW3
07-13-2007, 01:15 AM
my ticketmaster email says "your THE SMASHING PUMPKINS tickets are attached"

The Night Mare
07-13-2007, 01:15 AM
Hey, personally, I think this thread should be stickied. Everyone should be aware of the suck pervading the new band name.

Dogfighter28
07-13-2007, 01:17 AM
I'm not a big fan of sticking "The" in front of band names, so meh.

tstats
07-13-2007, 01:22 AM
my ticketmaster email says "your THE SMASHING PUMPKINS tickets are attached"

mine too

and i was bothered by it as well but it wasnt that bad taking out the "the" from everything

Feeder
07-13-2007, 01:31 AM
The official email from smashingpumpkins.com refered to them as THE SMASHING PUMPKINS and Billy introduced them at the Paris show as THE SMASHING PUMPKINS...

bellis123
07-13-2007, 01:45 AM
does it really fucking matter...

labmonkey
07-13-2007, 01:48 AM
Isn't it just Smashing Pumpkins on Siamese Dream?
Maybe because it was only Billy and Jimmy playing on that too

tcm
07-13-2007, 01:53 AM
maybe it doesn't really fucking matter.

Dogfighter28
07-13-2007, 01:55 AM
One thing is for sure - Elisha Cuthbert is my imaginary cumbucket

Ugly
07-13-2007, 01:57 AM
my ticketmaster email says "your THE SMASHING PUMPKINS tickets are attached"

And I got a ticket for Toronto labeled "Smashing Pumpkins". I thought there was a big hubabaloo about calling them "The" post SD/MCIS.

I'm gonna go by Live Earth (kinda lame, I know) but they were billed as "Smashing Pumpkins" on there, and the album cover. Darnit. What was Gish?

There needs to be order! Without anarchy, there is chaos!! Entropy and all that shit!

Trotskilicious
07-13-2007, 01:58 AM
this is beyond stupid

Ugly
07-13-2007, 01:58 AM
One thing is for sure - Elisha Cuthbert is my imaginary cumbucket

You back off, man. But you can go see CAPTIVTY. Even I won't see that.

Course, she headlines a few more bombs and there's a rising chance she'll finally show off her tits. Topless, I mean. Boobs.

al0137
07-13-2007, 02:01 AM
One thing is for sure - Elisha Cuthbert is my imaginary cumbucket

Wow! Have you hit puberty yet, young man? Such a nice boy with a filthy mind...

I can see PRBB doing a slow frame by frame on his second season DVD set of '24' when she's trapped by the tiger...

"She's in distress PRBB.. go save her!!" *PRBB closes his eyes and furiously masturbates*

tcm
07-13-2007, 02:01 AM
And I got a ticket for Toronto labeled "Smashing Pumpkins". I thought there was a big hubabaloo about calling them "The" post SD/MCIS.
fans will make a big hublblablaloboo out of anything.

mv2007
07-13-2007, 02:15 AM
This is fucking stupid.

admiralpancakes
07-13-2007, 03:13 AM
It sounds like maybe they're trying to distance themselves from bands like The Strokes, The White Stripes, The Used, ... whatever. Which of course they shouldn't, considering Lo-fi bullshit has everything to owe to the Alt-Rock that The Pumpkins more or less created.

Zwan Are Suck
07-13-2007, 04:08 AM
the reason is i think legal

tcm
07-13-2007, 04:33 AM
no.

Cool As Ice Cream
07-13-2007, 04:33 AM
I specifically made it a point to label all my SP stuff "The Smashing Pumpkins" and now they go and are renewed and revived and its all "Smashing Pumpkins" now. Goddamnit!
same here. where's my tippex?

<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5a/TippexWithFoamApplicator.png">

Zwan Are Suck
07-13-2007, 04:51 AM
i think yes

tcm
07-13-2007, 05:00 AM
naw.

slunken
07-13-2007, 05:13 AM
"It's almost as bad as the un-Pumpkins song titling. Or how about the fact that Billy actually explained why Tarantula was called that (see SPFC where they have a quote from him). That really bothered me too."

i think this is called "tongue-in-cheek"...

maybe i'm wrong...

mccririck
07-13-2007, 05:14 AM
No, I never liked it when they started using "The".

slunken
07-13-2007, 05:17 AM
"There needs to be order! Without anarchy, there is chaos!! Entropy and all that shit!"


what? without anarchy there is chaos? wtf have you been smoking? let's just listen to crass and read baudrillard. Or let's listen to GYBE and read barthes. You got yr existentialism all fucked up, bro.

wilch
07-13-2007, 06:12 AM
Yeah.. I know dude. They were never the same after they dropped the "THE". It's like 'Smashing Pumpkins' are a mere shell of the once great 'The Smashing Pumpkins'.

Very good observation. It's threads like these that make Netphoria so essential and important in our current culture of band-related message boards.

:rofl:

I didn't see any sarcasm in that...

Trotskilicious
07-13-2007, 06:21 AM
yeah it was so subtle

Ever
07-13-2007, 06:29 AM
No it wasn't, it was real obvious

I call them smashing pumpkins, the.

Trotskilicious
07-13-2007, 06:35 AM
oh ever. meladdo. how are you.

corgandreams
07-13-2007, 06:40 AM
It makes no difference really but I have never used "the".........so mine are all labelled right now!

AyEye
07-13-2007, 06:43 AM
This has irritated me from the start, all my my favorite (T?)SP albums were under the name The Smashing Pumpkins, still I figured people would say stuff like this:
this is beyond stupid
so I didn't mention it.

Ever
07-13-2007, 06:47 AM
Ugh the "the" is just added grammatically: I listen to <i>the</i> smashing pumpkins

Have you heard any new smashing pumpkins songs?

It's intuitive and it doesn't matter what's written on the covers.

Ever
07-13-2007, 06:49 AM
oh ever. meladdo. how are you.I'm around trotsky :)

The Melty Man
07-13-2007, 08:09 AM
Yeah everything new I get in iTunes is "Smashing Pumpkins" instead of "The Smashing Pumpkins" which is what all my other SP MP3s are labelled.

skipgo
07-13-2007, 08:27 AM
durrr.... they were called "smashing pumpkins" long before they added "the" to their name. And funny enough, people made a big deal about it when they did THAT. How hilarious that people are now mad they they've dropped it!

smashkin33
07-13-2007, 08:34 AM
When I burned the Paris boot onto cds to listen to in the car I wrote "TSP LIVE IN PARIS 2007" on them, and it pissed my friend off, she's like, "what's the T for?!" I explained they were going by THE SMASHING PUMPKINS for the past couple albums... she said that was lame. I guess I don't care either way, I suppose I'm glad to see THE gone, because it's back to the olden days, which is cool.

blackjack davey
07-13-2007, 09:20 AM
This thread is now fix'd! :rolleyes:

IWishIWasBlank
07-13-2007, 09:27 AM
I specifically made it a point to label all my SP stuff "The Smashing Pumpkins" and now they go and are renewed and revived and its all "Smashing Pumpkins" now. Goddamnit!

Not me.. I always went with "Smashing Pumpkins." Bummer for you Ugly.

DoomsdayRocket
07-13-2007, 11:00 AM
No, I never liked it.


corrected.

The Trashbirds
07-13-2007, 11:05 AM
Their new flag still has "The" on it. I think they still use that in concert.

I have my mp3s tagged based on the name they used at the time of release, not the current name.

I like it better with "The" as well. Without "The," it sounds like their engaged in a juvenile Halloween prank. With "The," they sound like a group of angry evil monster-pumpkins that will smash in your face. That's cooler.

The Trashbirds
07-13-2007, 11:08 AM
Ugh the "the" is just added grammatically: I listen to <i>the</i> smashing pumpkins

Have you heard any new smashing pumpkins songs?

It's intuitive and it doesn't matter what's written on the covers.

I don't. If I didn't have a "the" in my band name, I wouldn't want it said with my name. It changes the way it sounds.

Thus: "I am listening to Pixies."

vs.

"I am listening to The White Stripes."

I usually default to Smashing Pumpkins without "the," just out of habit for some reason.

DoomsdayRocket
07-13-2007, 11:08 AM
Their new flag still has "The" on it. I think they still use that in concert.

I have my mp3s tagged based on the name they used at the time of release, not the current name.

I like it better with "The" as well. Without "The," it sounds like their engaged in a juvenile Halloween prank. With "The," they sound like a group of angry evil monster-pumpkins that will smash in your face. That's cooler.

woah

starlaluna
07-13-2007, 11:16 AM
I don't really care...I never put THE when I label SP mp3s anyways and I always write SP for short instead of TSP.

The Jesus
07-13-2007, 11:20 AM
The Smashing Pumpkins

DoomsdayRocket
07-13-2007, 11:24 AM
in the earphoria cd is more annoying, on the front it says "the smashing pumpkins" on the side it says only "smashing pumpkins" confusing...

The Trashbirds
07-13-2007, 11:33 AM
in the earphoria cd is more annoying, on the front it says "the smashing pumpkins" on the side it says only "smashing pumpkins" confusing...

OK, here's where I get REALLY OCD.

Virgin ADDED "THE" to the cover of Vieuphoria and Earphoria because they were reissued in 2002 (after the Pumpkins had changed their name).

The original cover looked like this:
http://landslide.2007.org/omnipedia/vieuphoria.jpg

and the reissue:
http://www.videocanada.ca/catalogg/images/products/SMPUMP_vphor_WEB.jpg

This same alteration was done to the Earphoria CD, but I'm not gonna post two more images.

It was a Siamese era release and thus "The" was never part of the original work's title. It was added by Virgin for the reissue in '02 to make it more consistent with Pumpkins products since 1995.

DoomsdayRocket
07-13-2007, 11:57 AM
OK, here's where I get REALLY OCD.

Virgin ADDED "THE" to the cover of Vieuphoria and Earphoria because they were reissued in 2002 (after the Pumpkins had changed their name).

The original cover looked like this:
http://landslide.2007.org/omnipedia/vieuphoria.jpg

and the reissue:
http://www.videocanada.ca/catalogg/images/products/SMPUMP_vphor_WEB.jpg

This same alteration was done to the Earphoria CD, but I'm not gonna post two more images.

It was a Siamese era release and thus "The" was never part of the original work's title. It was added by Virgin for the reissue in '02 to make it more consistent with Pumpkins products since 1995.

yeah, i know, but if you look at the title on the side of the cd it says only "smashing pumpkins"
it's a bit annoying

The Trashbirds
07-13-2007, 12:42 PM
yeah, i know, but if you look at the title on the side of the cd it says only "smashing pumpkins"
it's a bit annoying

Agreed, but it's not really difficult to ascertain the fact that you should just drop "the" from the name if you're all that concerned about getting the name-on-release correct.

"Earphoria" was originally released under the name Smashing Pumpkins, and then some dumb graphic artist changed it in 2002 without making sure to make the binding and cover consistent with one another.

DoomsdayRocket
07-13-2007, 01:09 PM
well i couldn't care less about having the or not having...
but this amateurish stuff where the artwork isnt consistent with itself... then it bothers me that's all...

tcm
07-13-2007, 01:48 PM
hey guys, you're dumb.

DoomsdayRocket
07-14-2007, 12:14 AM
hey guys, you're dumb.

the GFOOCC shall find you and destroy you! \m/

douglas78
07-14-2007, 12:43 AM
Their new flag still has "The" on it. I think they still use that in concert.

I have my mp3s tagged based on the name they used at the time of release, not the current name.

I like it better with "The" as well. Without "The," it sounds like their engaged in a juvenile Halloween prank. With "The," they sound like a group of angry evil monster-pumpkins that will smash in your face. That's cooler.


As long as the new shirt says "THE" on it...