What would be the Ultimate set list.

Would any zwan/solo songs actually make it onto a ultimate set list?

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Would any zwan/solo songs actually make it onto a ultimate set list?

yes

first off, if it won't happen

"Mary Star of the Sea" and "Thecameraeye"...and that's it, I guess...

DIA and ToLoveSomebody
For Your Love, Of a Broken Heart

He should break out some zwan and TFE and rock them out sp style. I don't see why he seems so against that - it's not like he wasn't the one who wrote them. I mean I don't really care for TFE that much but just breaking out cameraeye out of the blue would be awesome.

they haven't played any covers yet either, have they?

It seems everyone is listing two...
Friends and Lovers
El-A-Noy

i don't think they have, but they apparently teased a bunch of covers last night...

for your love

glorious
chrysantheum
cast a stone

you'd have to throw JCC in there too, so i'd say lokicat

You Were Mine

Would any zwan/solo songs actually make it onto a ultimate set list?

no... maybe mina loy

"Mary Star of the Sea" and "Thecameraeye"...and that's it, I guess...

yes that is it.

MSOTS and Mini would be excellent (I know there is almost zero chance of him ever playing Mini again though :()

it wouldnt have any zwan, tfe or zeitgeist stuff on it for sure

glorious
chrysantheum
cast a stone

cheers, guy!

I mean if the setlist is like 35-40 songs..yah..maybe a bone to Zwan or Solo

but what about if its 20 songs?

Any Zwan song he played would be better than this Zeitgeist shit. Except for Pomp and Circumstances

chris cornell style.. that guy plays soundgarden, audioslave at his solo shows.. and with audioslave he also played soundgarden and rage songs.. he just doesn't give a fuck

Ultimate setlist (show would have TheFutureEmbrace light screens of course)
---------------------------(electric set)
Bit 4>>>Ode To No One
Glass' Theme
The Everlasting Gaze
I Am One
Mina Loy
Bit 5
Frail and Bedazzled
Blue Skies Bring Tears
Walking Shade
I Of the Mourning
Jellybelly
---------------------------(acoustic set)
Tales of a Scorched Earth
Think You Know
Riverview
Glynis
If There Is a God>>>Stay (U2)
Behold! The Night Mare
TheCameraEye
---------------------------(electric set)
Ride A Black Swan
Chrysanthemum
Shame
Starz
White Spyder
Porcelina
Bullet
Spilled Milk
----------------------------(encore 1)
Permanence
Disarm
Signal This Strong
-----------------------------(encore 2)
Siva
Mayonnaise
Jesus, I>>>God's Gonna Set...>>>Mary Star of the Sea>>>Pastichio Medley

Edit: I know these threads are sorta dumb, but I was bored...it's a little over 30 songs, they've been playing around 30 (plus Gossamer) at the recent shows, so it's not overly crazy.

well, from ZWAN I'd like to heeeeeeear "Endless Summer" really heavied-up. That's not even a real expression... anyway, also "Ride a Black Swan" and... hmm... "Declarations of Faith."

I love the backup vocals on MSOTS (Paz has a schweeet voice!) and I'd like to hear how Ginger sounds.

And from TFE... "DIA," "Mina Loy," and "TheCameraEye" are pretty much the only ones I'd want to hear...

Mina Loy, Camera Eye, Jesus I,/MSOS, Desire,Spilled Milk
I mean its also Billys Songs

I don't see Billy ever playing Zwan songs, because they remind him of an apparently painful time. And TFE flopped, and the rock star in him probably kind of wants to distance himself from that album.

The ultimate setlist wouldn't ******* anything from Mary Star Of The Sea or TheFutureEmbrace. However, I think a few songs by Zwan that didn't make the album were definatly good enough.

any song by the Marked

just kidding. The Marked are shit.

I would love a show with a setlist like this (In no particular order I guess):

Jellybelly
Dross
Frail and Bedazzled
I Am One
Bleeding The Orchid
X.Y.U.
Rhinoceros
Here Is No Why
The Everlasting Gays
Hummer
Porcelina

---------------
Acoustic set
---------------
To Sheila
Thirty Three
1979
This Time
Disarm

---------------
Tonight Tonight
Cash Car Star
Quiet
Bullet With Butterfly Wings
Fuck You
Let Me Give The World To You
Today
Drown
Home
Rocket
Shame (2007 version)
Ruby
Ava Adore (heavy version from 11-29-00)

-----------
Encore 1
-----------
Geek USA
Zero
Muzzle

-----------
Encore 2
-----------
Cherub Rock
Mayonaise
United States

I would be fine with DIA and Mini.

I'm not gonna makeup an entire setlist on this, but I will say I definately wouldn't mind 'em playing "Mina Loy" and "Mary Star of the Sea" at a show.

Fuck Mini.

there arent many songs from 2001-2005 that really fit Pumpkins. Early Zwan stuff like "Cast a Stone" and "Glorious" and then probably "Black Swan", "Endless Summer," and "MSOTS" off of the album. Then, "Riverview" and "Spilled Milk" of course.

As for solo, I'd say "Mina Loy" and "Tilt," and maybe "A100" "CameraEye" and "Walking Shade." And I guess "DIA" would be the no-brainer.

I would love a show with a setlist like this (In no particular order I guess):

Jellybelly
Dross
Frail and Bedazzled
I Am One
Bleeding The Orchid
X.Y.U.
Rhinoceros
Here Is No Why
The Everlasting Gays
Hummer
Porcelina

---------------
Acoustic set
---------------
To Sheila
Thirty Three
1979
This Time
Disarm

---------------
Tonight Tonight
Cash Car Star
Quiet
Bullet With Butterfly Wings
Fuck You
Let Me Give The World To You
Today
Drown
Home
Rocket
Shame (2007 version)
Ruby
Ava Adore (heavy version from 11-29-00)

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Encore 1
-----------
Geek USA
Zero
Muzzle

-----------
Encore 2
-----------
Cherub Rock
Mayonaise
United States

United States would be an excellent closing song.

glorious
chrysantheum
cast a stone

YES!

They are probably my three favourite Zwan songs. Maybe add Never Give Up as well.

But it isn't going to happen.

That Sloth-from-Goonies-looking gimp should just release every Zwan recording he has. I bet he has heaps of studio tracks and soundboard quality live stuff in a vault somewhere. Prick.

well, from ZWAN I'd like to heeeeeeear "Endless Summer" really heavied-up. That's not even a real expression... anyway, also "Ride a Black Swan" and... hmm... "Declarations of Faith."

I love the backup vocals on MSOTS (Paz has a schweeet voice!) and I'd like to hear how Ginger sounds.

And from TFE... "DIA," "Mina Loy," and "TheCameraEye" are pretty much the only ones I'd want to hear...

I don't think I'd like a heavier "Endless Summer". That song has such an upbeat feel to it...heavyness would destroy that.

I don't really think any of the MSOTS songs would appear in an ultimate setlist in my opinion. All of Zwan's unreleased stuff is leagues ahead of most of the album material. As much as I love the Zwan album, it's pretty much a collection of the 12 worst Zwan songs plus El Sol and Come with Me.

riverview
spilled milk

I'd want a Jesus > Bullet jam.

Just so we could call it "Jesus with Butterfly Wings"

I'd love to hear "Glorious" once more live, even on a bootleg. And of course "El-A-Noy", "For Your Love" and "Mina Loy" could be there as well, they could easily be pumpkins classics.