View Full Version : Billy completely talked his way out of answering the 2007-Pisces reference


Reyngel
06-06-2007, 03:36 PM
Wtf Billy... answer the question.



"You're asking if the appearance of the number 2007 in Pisces Iscariot coordinates with us coming back in 2007... is that what you're asking me?

"Um... that's a good question. Um... I don't know how to answer it... um... truthfully. It's a weird thing, it's like um... when the band broke up in 2000, we knew in 1999 the band was going to break up... a lot of people were saying 'Oh, don't break up, it's a bad idea.' And, in my mind, I had to except it completely. Um... and then, now that we're back... it's like just as much as we had to go away, now we've come back. So, it doesn't... it makes sense to us that there's dates and times that coordinate to going and coming back. So, the answer to your question is, sorta... no, it's not from a fortune teller, but we believe in the power of... of... intention and prophecy. So, if we're back because of those things, great, and if we're not, well, then it's just interesting to talk about."


:rolleyes:

Steve Holt
06-06-2007, 03:39 PM
maybe because the Pisces 2007 reference is/was meaningless

smashapumpkin
06-06-2007, 03:40 PM
explain

BrokenGourds
06-06-2007, 03:40 PM
what's going on again?

Reyngel
06-06-2007, 03:43 PM
maybe because the Pisces 2007 reference is/was meaningless


Maybe... probably. But he should have just said "It was meaningless," rather than pretending it might have been some psychic bullshit.



And Billy's comments about how he never goes on the internet to read what we talk about... such bullshit. It was especially obvious when he was like "Talk to the people who go on the internet" when asked about the white clothes. Clearly he's seen all the comments about how the clothes suck.

Reyngel
06-06-2007, 03:44 PM
explain




His answer yesterday at the Berlin secret show... he was asked if the 2007 reference in Pisces had anything to do with the revival.

pete
06-06-2007, 03:46 PM
what's going on again?



untrue fan alert

hnibos
06-06-2007, 03:47 PM
so what did he say?

Kahlo
06-06-2007, 03:51 PM
untrue fan alert

i think you meant untroo

how untroo.

hnibos
06-06-2007, 03:52 PM
i think you meant untroo

how untroo.

its untr00

Elvis The Fat Years
06-06-2007, 03:54 PM
more like fags using an old joke that was never funny alert.

Reyngel
06-06-2007, 03:56 PM
He said:


"You're asking if the appearance of the number 2007 in Pisces Iscariot coordinates with us coming back in 2007... is that what you're asking me?

"Um... that's a good question. Um... I don't know how to answer it... um... truthfully. It's a weird thing, it's like um... when the band broke up in 2000, we knew in 1999 the band was going to break up... a lot of people were saying 'Oh, don't break up, it's a bad idea.' And, in my mind, I had to except it completely. Um... and then, now that we're back... it's like just as much as we had to go away, now we've come back. So, it doesn't... it makes sense to us that there's dates and times that coordinate to going and coming back. So, the answer to your question is, sorta... no, it's not from a fortune teller, but we believe in the power of... of... intention and prophecy. So, if we're back because of those things, great, and if we're not, well, then it's just interesting to talk about."



:rolleyes:

Reyngel
06-06-2007, 03:58 PM
...and then he says,

"I studied with psychics," and that he believes in horoscopes and shit.

waltermcphilp
06-06-2007, 03:59 PM
what a grade A bullshitter.

hnibos
06-06-2007, 03:59 PM
sounds to me like he did try to prophecize, but that the decision to renew and revive in 2007 wasnt based on his self prophecy, it just happened to work out that way

skipgo
06-06-2007, 03:59 PM
yeah, that was a pretty terrible answer. It's like a politician answer.

firewoman
06-06-2007, 04:00 PM
that was a pointless answer... maybe he forgot that he wrote it in PI back then

Reyngel
06-06-2007, 04:01 PM
what a grade A bullshitter.



lol


It's like he said a whole ton of shit, but he didn't really say anything at all.

hnibos
06-06-2007, 04:01 PM
hmm, i guess it sounds clearer to me

Reyngel
06-06-2007, 04:01 PM
that was a pointless answer... maybe he forgot that he wrote it in PI back then


lol... I'm glad that question snuck in, then.

Reyngel
06-06-2007, 04:02 PM
hmm, i guess it sounds clearer to me



How so?

hnibos
06-06-2007, 04:05 PM
it seems like he didnt quite know how to answer the question, but thats its basically a coincidence

Virex Kills
06-06-2007, 04:09 PM
it seems like he didnt quite know how to answer the question, but thats its basically a coincidence

Thats what Im thinking too. His answer makes sense to me. Its a "I dunno. It COULD be related, but ultimately it happened so who cares."

commando
06-06-2007, 04:12 PM
Maybe... probably. But he should have just said "It was meaningless," rather than pretending it might have been some psychic bullshit.




Um... new to this, but... isn't that exactly what the fuck he said?? You may not hold the same beliefs as Billy, but he sure catered to everyone in fairness by saying: "If we're here because of those things, great, but if not it's just interesting to talk about."

mccririck
06-06-2007, 04:13 PM
Maybe... probably.

Certainly. Unless you believe in fairies and elves.

JRiordan
06-06-2007, 04:15 PM
Can't wait to hear this recording!!

Any denials are all part of the Zeitgeist mystery.

IWannaBeAdored
06-06-2007, 04:16 PM
Seems pretty clear to me.

No, there wasn't any intention to reform in 2007 and yes it's an odd coincidence, but perhaps he was subconsciously aware of this date due to the Pisces thing, which may or may not have influenced his decision without him realising.

skipgo
06-06-2007, 04:17 PM
that was a pointless answer... maybe he forgot that he wrote it in PI back then

he probably doesn't remember. He probably doesn't overanalyze and scrutinize everything he does the way we do. He probably hasn't even looked at those liner notes in over a decade.

mccririck
06-06-2007, 04:18 PM
Seems pretty clear to me.

No, there wasn't any intention to reform in 2007 and yes it's an odd coincidence, but perhaps he was subconsciously aware of this date due to the Pisces thing, which may or may not have influenced his decision without him realising.

He'd probably forgotten all about the Pisces thing.

steelfaerie
06-06-2007, 04:20 PM
I feel like what he wanted to say was "What 2007 reference?"

Corganist
06-06-2007, 04:21 PM
Thats what Im thinking too. His answer makes sense to me. Its a "I dunno. It COULD be related, but ultimately it happened so who cares."
That's basically what I'm getting. Kind of a "I certainly didn't plan for that to happen, but its certainly strange that it did. It could definitely mean something, but hell if I know what." sort of thing.

mccririck
06-06-2007, 04:24 PM
In other words, it's bollocks folks.

zsp77
06-06-2007, 04:25 PM
it makes sense to us that there's dates and times that coordinate to going and coming back. So, the answer to your question is, sorta... we believe in the power of... intention and prophecy. So, if we're back because of those things, great,





I think you have to read between the lines (notice I took out the part where he says it wasn't a fortune teller thing.) He pretty obviously says "we" which means "I" (or maybe he and Jimmy, but James and Darcy can't be *******d) believe in the power of INTENTION and prohecy.

And also, he says, there are dates and times that coordinate to going an coming back. That's pretty obvious too, I believe.

In other words, even though it was rather windy, the answer is YES, they are related.

nii-o
06-06-2007, 04:28 PM
he actually answered the question

i'm confused that people can't see that

Virex Kills
06-06-2007, 04:30 PM
Learn to live in the grey zone people. Who cares if he doesnt say yes or no clearly.
I studied with this german girl once and she needed everything to be clearly black or white. She couldnt handle the greys of life. But sometimes the grey is all you have. Get used to it.

mccririck
06-06-2007, 04:31 PM
Learn to live in the grey zone people. Who cares if he doesnt say yes or no clearly.
I studied with this german girl once and she needed everything to be clearly black or white. She couldnt handle the greys of life. But sometimes the grey is all you have. Get used to it.

Good point.

zsp77
06-06-2007, 04:34 PM
That's basically what I'm getting. Kind of a "I certainly didn't plan for that to happen, but its certainly strange that it did. It could definitely mean something, but hell if I know what." sort of thing.

Nah, personally I disagree. To assume he didn't know what 2007 meant in the linear notes or how it ended up there is naive. Of course he knew. I mean, how did it end up there in the first place? Billy, as we all know, controlled everything, so I doubt if he would somehow not have noticed such a glaring addition or let it slip past his editing for that matter.

There are 2 things we know for sure. 1 is that the year 2007 is in the PI notes. 2 is that now, in 2007, we have a new album. Therefore, I have a hard time believing this is not part of his plan.

He's definitely playing dumb.

mccririck
06-06-2007, 04:38 PM
*Yawn*

HEALTH WARNING: Hypothetical bullshit bores.

spo
06-06-2007, 04:55 PM
it's probably a mere coincidence and billy won't say so because he enjoys appearing mysterious.

skipgo
06-06-2007, 04:59 PM
it's probably a mere coincidence and billy won't say so because he enjoys appearing mysterious.

yeah, i'm going with this theory. Because if it WAS part of some big plan (which i seriously doubt that he was planning this in 1994), he'd want everyone to know how brilliant he was for having this idea and carrying it out in the first place.

bja1288
06-06-2007, 05:03 PM
edit: nvm

andrewface
06-06-2007, 05:04 PM
ive got a question what is this burn the lies off your soul reference everyones been making?

andrewface
06-06-2007, 05:06 PM
and as for the 2007 its funny cause me and my buddy always made a joke that theyd be back and wed go so them in 2007 and behold!

zsp77
06-06-2007, 05:23 PM
*Yawn*

HEALTH WARNING: Hypothetical bullshit bores.

It's ironic that hypothetical statements made on a message board bore you, considering you apparantly attempt to pass your time by reading them. ;)

davin
06-06-2007, 05:36 PM
i think what he's saying is that it wasn't intended that way when PI notes were originally written, but because he thinks he's "some insane creature acting on heavenly intuition" it doesn't surprise him that it did work out afterall.

runaroundkid
06-06-2007, 08:55 PM
it's like just as much as we had to go away, now we've come back.

now you've come back? no fucking shit, bill.

So, it doesn't... it makes sense to us that there's dates and times that coordinate to going and coming back.

wtf? going and coming? lololol this shit is pricelessly incoherent! i love it

2=7
06-06-2007, 09:19 PM
HOLY CRAP

why did the band stop when he was 33? what did hey wait 7 years? why did he 'reincarnate' the pumpkins? why the constant use of Z and 7? why attempt to release an album on 7.7.07? why play a huge show on May 22?

are you kidding me? not intentional? good god

zsp77
06-06-2007, 10:53 PM
HOLY CRAP

why did the band stop when he was 33? what did hey wait 7 years? why did he 'reincarnate' the pumpkins? why the constant use of Z and 7? why attempt to release an album on 7.7.07? why play a huge show on May 22?

are you kidding me? not intentional? good god

All I've got to say is ,,, ZSP77.......MF's !!

2=7
06-06-2007, 10:54 PM
that's all?

ltoolio
06-06-2007, 10:58 PM
...and then he says,

"I studied with psychics," and that he believes in horoscopes and shit.

When I was at The Temple/Church sessions, I mentioned that my wife would have waited out for tix with me, but that she was 8.5 months pregnant at that point and waiting 3 hours was not in her best interest at the time.

He asked me if I knew what we were having, which we did not.

He did this weird hand motion and then said that we would have a girl.

Which we did.

So, maybe he is psychic?

2=7
06-06-2007, 11:00 PM
did you name her willamina?

runnersdialzero
06-07-2007, 12:00 AM
i think it was pretty solid that he pulled the "we believe in the power of... of... intention and prophecy" thing out off the top if his head. billy is a shitty speaker, but thats a choice quote (minus the stalling)

Gollum
06-07-2007, 01:02 AM
where i can i find this full interview?

stumpycat
06-07-2007, 02:09 AM
It's like he said a whole ton of shit, but he didn't really say anything at all.
Oh yeah, I definitely sense a bright future full of political possibilities for Bill. It's not too late for 2008...

P.S. Billy if you start hanging with Sylvia Browne and shit, I'll lose all respect for you!

dishpan
06-07-2007, 07:30 AM
so this is from a q&a period he had with the fans? what else was asked and answered?
thanks
dan

Deege
06-07-2007, 08:26 AM
Perhaps the 2007 was european style dating - like 20/7, or July 20th?

celluloid_love
06-07-2007, 08:35 AM
i just don't know if i'm quite ready to commit to life in the grey zone, Virex Kills

Luke de Spa
06-07-2007, 08:36 AM
i prefer the danger zone myself

teh b0lly!!1
06-07-2007, 08:45 AM
i dont get why all of you are bashing corgan on this one.
im actually one of the people who have lost a lot of respect for corgan in the last couple of years (and i do mean a LOT) but i actually think this answer was pretty candid.
he said he straight out did not know what it meant when he wrote it, but that he does believe some bigger forces are at work, regardless if its concerning his band or the world..
i actually accept that, and i salute him for admitting it wasnt on purpose.
if given the situation, im not sure i would have given away something that caused so much speculation and discussion.

celluloid_love
06-07-2007, 08:51 AM
i mean i get that this is a serious issue

but living life in the grey zone

i just need time to think, that's all

laradelocke
06-07-2007, 10:47 AM
god this whole thing is bullshit. including the ''comeback''. its pure and utter tripe. just fucking take off the fancy costumes, shut the fuck up, perhaps go back to some heavy drug use and just play the fucking tunes DICKHEADS.

Liffey
06-07-2007, 11:18 AM
highway to the

Reyngel
06-07-2007, 01:32 PM
where i can i find this full interview?


The boot of the whole show, including the Q and A period afterward, is out.

The Omega Concern
06-07-2007, 02:41 PM
originally posted by Reyngal:


...and then he says,

"I studied with psychics," and that he believes in horoscopes and shit.

Spankarine to thread>>>?

back in the day, there was open speculation in the O-board Symbols forum if Billy was in fact an Adept. I'm happy for this quote here, because maybe he can be less shy about such a thing going foreward...time will tell.

Once upon a time, many moons ago, I think he made a mistake within an intention of his...if he would cop to it I'd forgive him, but...time will tell.

wpc33
06-07-2007, 03:33 PM
Once upon a time, many moons ago, I think he made a mistake within an intention of his...if he would cop to it I'd forgive him, but...time will tell.
:rofl:

thank you stevie nicks.

The Omega Concern
06-07-2007, 03:38 PM
heh...a chick named Stevie.

fluxequalsrad
06-07-2007, 03:39 PM
billy corgan fagged that answer big time.

fluxequalsrad
06-07-2007, 03:41 PM
"DUH WHO GOES ON TEH INTERNEt!?1/?!'

wpc33
06-07-2007, 03:48 PM
When I was at The Temple/Church sessions, I mentioned that my wife would have waited out for tix with me, but that she was 8.5 months pregnant at that point and waiting 3 hours was not in her best interest at the time.

He asked me if I knew what we were having, which we did not.

He did this weird hand motion and then said that we would have a girl.

Which we did.

So, maybe he is psychic?
Play rock-paper-scissors with Billy and you'll have your answer. THE ODDS ARE EVEN LOWER THAT HED BE RITE OMG SINE

j u n e
06-07-2007, 03:54 PM
the power lies in the birthmark.

xmfi
06-07-2007, 03:54 PM
God almighty that guy is so psychic it hurts.

somaziro
06-07-2007, 04:35 PM
i think his answer is that everything works the only way that it can work, while 2007 in PI may or may not have meant that they would come back the fact is that they did come back in 2007. he leaves open the possibility that there might be some universal connection, but if not its just an interesting coincidence =)