Thought this was interesting: (Butch Vig is the drummer for Garbage and producer of SD and Gish.)
http://www.garbage.suite.dk/articles/moderndrummer/

Butch Vig has produced some of the greatest drummers of the post-punk generation. Here are his thoughts

Jimmy Chamberlin of Smashing Pumpkins
Jimmy is part of what made the Pumpkins sound the way they did. He and Billy Corgan developed almost a sixth sense of communication in terms of the push/pull that they had with the rhythms. And sometimes it was in the same bar. The top of the bar might push and the back of the bar might pull. It's something you can't really define. But if I heard a new track they were working on without being told it was them, I swear I could tell just by the rhythm guitar and drums. It's the way they play off each other.
Jimmy has incredible dynamics and feel. I rarely used click tracks with the Pumpkins. There are points where it speeds up or slows down, but that's part of the feel, and to me it always worked with the song. One of my favorite songs of theirs is "Hummer," from Siamese Dream. At the end it goes into a sort of free-form, almost jazzy outro, where he's riding the hats and the ride cymbal, with the little grace notes on the snare. We had to do a lot of takes to get the one we wanted, but it's basically a live take. An amazing performance.

I can't believe Hummer is his fav song?

i can't believe thats a question?

LOL, i think i used the question mark to express the look on my face rather than a realistic interpretation grammatically. Whatevs.

Hummer is one of my all time fav pumpkins songs. When i woke up from that sleep, I was happier than i'd ever been!!! yeeee haaaaa iha.

cool, thx

I can't believe Hummer is his fav song?

that isnt what he said

thats funny, cos jimmy says he normally always clicks his studio work. though i understand certain songs slow down/speed up .....

thats funny, cos jimmy says he normally always clicks his studio work.
when the hell'd he say that.

Butch Vig - hummer.. <--- a man of good taste. ......just ignore garbage

do you feel....love...is real?

when the hell'd he say that.


drum clinics.

lies.

LIES.

he did clix for no songs with the pumpkins, he said that sometimes he used a drum machine for recording some songs, SOME songs, but no clix

Zwan was all clix though, every fucking song, part of the reason why it sucked imo
and some of the JCC tracks were clicked.

forgive my ignorance, but what does it mean when the drums are clicked? :confused:

he did clix for no songs with the pumpkins, he said that sometimes he used a drum machine for recording some songs, SOME songs, but no clix

Zwan was all clix though, every fucking song, part of the reason why it sucked imo
and some of the JCC tracks were clicked.

i believe you are correct sir.

forgive my ignorance, but what does it mean when the drums are clicked? :confused:


there are clicks running through their (usually) headphones in order for them to stay in time. some bands even use them live in their in ear monitors (u2 for example.)

thanks.

Do you feel love is real?

or

Do you feel? Love is real!

hmmmmm?

hummer is my favorite song.

Butch Vig is the best producer in the world but the worst drummer in the world. He uses a click-track live and all these other effects and bullshit.. absolutely awful.

Hummer is the best song ever though, best on Siamese Dream for sure....they have to ressurect this one.

Do you feel love is real?

or

Do you feel? Love is real!

hmmmmm?
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/balllionbrace/hummer.jpg

Butch Vig is the best producer

im a fan of nigel godrich. he produced alot of radiohead albums: kid a, amnesiac, ok computer and beck albums : mutations, sea change, guero, and the information.

the Dust Brothers did Guero.

my bad, he mixed guero.

thats funny, cos jimmy says he normally always clicks his studio work. though i understand certain songs slow down/speed up .....


Then why has he said he didn't click with Pumpkins songs? He's said that numerous times.

wow you guys are quick to inform...I just thought it was interesting that it could go either way, the way he sang it.

btw, does anybody know where I can find an archive of the Zwan journals? Remember those little journals he wrote online during Zwan with the blue background?

i believe you are correct sir.

why thank you, you are a gentleman, have a brandy, mmm.

*cheers* to jimmy, guero, butch and that song hummer..

Then why has he said he didn't click with Pumpkins songs? He's said that numerous times.
things change, people change, attitudes change, names, faces, games, places, all things change, the world changes, spinning ever outward through the howling night.

wow you guys are quick to inform...I just thought it was interesting that it could go either way, the way he sang it.
in English, a question is normally marked with a rise in pitch at the end. do you feel love is real?

btw, does anybody know where I can find an archive of the Zwan journals? Remember those little journals he wrote online during Zwan with the blue background?
the ones from the blue billycorgan.com are back a ways on here (http://billycorgan.livejournal.com/), but that was after Zwan. i don't remember any during Zwan.

Hummer is one of my all time fav pumpkins songs. When i woke up from that sleep, I was happier than i'd ever been!!! yeeee haaaaa iha.

I like you Radiofred.

in English, a question is normally marked with a rise in pitch at the end. do you feel love is real?

In English, the first word of a sentence is normally capitalized. Do you feel love is real?

:rolleyes:

there aren't any capital letters in singing. strange fellow, jimmychauv.

Ifeel<3Israel

there aren't any capital letters in singing. strange fellow, jimmychauv.

ok?

you're welcome, by the way.

I like you Radiofred.


I like you too CrabbMan

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/balllionbrace/hummer.jpg
do you feel love is seal?

http://toiletscroll.com/content/userimages/Crazy%20Seal%20copy.jpg

you are a little crazy, RopeyLopey.

I'm pretty sure Vig has also said that Geek USA is the best drum performance he's ever heard.

you are a little crazy, RopeyLopey.I am just trying to survive.

thats funny, cos jimmy says he normally always clicks his studio work......




um no he doesn't - he did on some of MSOTS... and a bit of machina - but >normally< he doesn't...

I am just trying to survive.
That's quite the setup for one obscure joke.

if there's one thing RopeyLopey and i have in common it is dedication.

um no he doesn't - he did on some of MSOTS... and a bit of machina - but >normally< he doesn't...

thanks for clarifying....but it wasnt a question. it came from his mouth, not mine so eat it. were you there for those early pumpkin recording sessions? or did he tell you personally.... i dont care when he did, but he said he did. why does this matter anyhow?

why are you even here if you think music doesn't matter. we are a passionate community.