View Full Version : Artwork possibility for album (7 deadly sins)
Kahlo 03-27-2007, 03:47 AM Everyone seems to be obsessed with this 7 deadly sins thing at the moment, and whether it is true or not I'm not sure. As TPQ made clear in London, the cover of the album was being finished by an artist rather than a photographer, and while we know they had spoken to Banksy who was later rejected - this made me think of an exhibition which occurred in LA about the time of TPQ's visit - concerning...
Mercedes Helnwein - Her most recent series of drawings, The Book of Disquiet, based on the seven deadly sins, opened on December 11th, 2006, downtown Los Angeles.
The exhibition got a high profile, and was attended by several celebrities, even having a review written by Jason Lee in Anthem Magazine. Her father Gottfried Helnwein is responsible for working with Marilyn Manson, Rammstein and is a well known and respected artist & photographer...
Mercedes Helnwein Site:
http://mercedeshelnwein.com
Jason Lee Article:
http://mercedeshelnwein.com/html/stage/Anthem%20Magazine.html
It would be interesting if she was responsible for the artwork for the Album anyway...
Cool As Ice Cream 03-27-2007, 04:17 AM toiletpaperqueen
brendo_91 03-27-2007, 05:28 AM Everyone seems to be obsessed with this 7 deadly sins thing at the moment, and whether it is true or not I'm not sure. As TPQ made clear in London, the cover of the album was being finished by an artist rather than a photographer
photography != art, then?
however i dont mind the stuff on her website, and sp2 could certainly do worse...
Kahlo 03-27-2007, 05:34 AM haha, the photography/ artist debate is a good one.. I guess it depends on your deffinition. I do regard Photography as great art... however what I believe was implied was that it would be applied arts for the cover such as drawing/painting etc
IWishIWasBlank 03-27-2007, 08:01 AM You have to be a damn good photographer to really be an artist. I like taking pictures and dabbling, but I'm certainly far from being an "artist" with my camera.
brendo_91 03-27-2007, 08:20 AM True. But would you say that the cover of Adore is or is not 'art'?
jimmy drevpile 03-27-2007, 08:28 AM Art, in its broadest meaning, is the expression of creativity or imagination, or both -whatever the medium.
IWishIWasBlank 03-27-2007, 08:30 AM The Adore pics were OK, but nothing to write home about. That's my opinion. Submit your own before flaming.
SpFission 03-27-2007, 08:46 AM Artwork is moot if the music sucks.
Lets hope that's not the case.
topleybird 03-27-2007, 09:25 AM Oh hey her site uses the same unremarkable font (Avenir?) as those cover mock-ups Ihaman threw together
It is destiny
Phoenix Down 03-27-2007, 09:31 AM where is that banksy info from?
Kahlo 03-27-2007, 09:37 AM In London, TPQ mentioned that there had been discussions with Banksy however in the end nothing came of it. She seemed to have a pretty negative attitude towards him.
Phoenix Down 03-27-2007, 09:43 AM that would have been cool
Kahlo 03-27-2007, 09:47 AM I don't know, he has lost most of his charm... it is starting to wear extremely thin. There was an interesting article recently about how (he claimed) galleries where trying to destroy his guerilla art by selling it at high prices at auction, as well as in editions of prints that your average man on the street could not afford. I haven't made my mind up on him however....
Oklahoma Sexual 03-27-2007, 09:57 AM Her father was Gilbert Gottfried??
Oklahoma Sexual 03-27-2007, 10:00 AM The Adore pics were OK, but nothing to write home about. That's my opinion. Submit your own before flaming.
Oh my god, like, those photos, were like, so gay. I mean totally! So anyway, I got these new shoes. I know! Aren't they just adorable!
Ooops.
Kahlo 03-27-2007, 11:04 AM Her father was Gilbert Gottfried??
her father is Gottfried Helnwein
http://www.helnwein.com/
Also Yelena Yemchuk's photo's for Adore are beautiful...
idiotkid 03-27-2007, 05:26 PM i love gottfried helnwein though if this weren't his daughter i think she'd be getting totally ripped to shreds. it's only slightly different but for the most part she's doing what he's already done. their style is so similar {and i know style isn't EVERYTHING but it's a large part of your work} and that kind of sucks... but maybe she's trying to make a statement with that. who knows. all i have to say is imo they should get her old man to do it if they really did hire her. or whatever. banksy would've been pretty interesting.
DeviousJ 03-27-2007, 06:27 PM Oh hey her site uses the same unremarkable font (Avenir?) as those cover mock-ups Ihaman threw together
It is destiny
I nerded up and think it's Gotham
Steve Holt 03-27-2007, 08:23 PM What is art?
Are we art?
Is art art?
DiscoJon 03-27-2007, 09:09 PM Why use Porn models when we can use band members and other related peoples?
Lust: Jimmy
Gluttony: D'arcy
Greed: James
Sloth: Courtney Love
Wrath: Evan Dando
Envy: Stephen Malkmus
Pride: Billy
What is art?
Are we art?
Is art art?
haha that saved by the bell episode was on this morning.
topleybird 03-27-2007, 11:35 PM I nerded up and think it's Gotham
I believe you are correct, actually. I would also like to apologize to Avenir for calling it "unremarkable." I am sorry Avenir, I will continue to use you extensively in my projects. I just don't see you as being an album cover sort of typeface. You are solid and dependable and clean and a rock album demands something a little crazier. No one is going to develop a shitty toss-off version of you and put it in some Smashing Pumpkins Font Collection.
alisonmonster 03-27-2007, 11:53 PM i personally won't be satisfied unless they start using comic sans on a regular basis
Mizarkga 03-28-2007, 12:08 AM Well this is about all the confirmation there can be. Taken from Sasha Grey's Myspace blog from Feb. 13:
"When I got back from SF I also did a photo-shoot for my friend's album that I am very excited about-and I am very proud of him. It was intensely creative. More details in the future…"
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=75488626&MyToken=d879a7d6-fc7c-4eb7-93d2-b2db31734ce8ML
wHATcOLOR 03-28-2007, 01:00 AM i feel like fucking a stranger in the ass should be on the list of deadly sins, and i think donnie would agree
luciddream33 03-28-2007, 01:10 AM Well this is about all the confirmation there can be. Taken from Sasha Grey's Myspace blog from Feb. 13:
"When I got back from SF I also did a photo-shoot for my friend's album that I am very excited about-and I am very proud of him. It was intensely creative. More details in the future…"
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=75488626&MyToken=d879a7d6-fc7c-4eb7-93d2-b2db31734ce8ML
Not only am I a fan of her anal and ultra-hardcore tendencies, but she has Bowie and Tool references in her photo gallery. I'm really sold on this chick now.
However, I hope to god that this porn star photo shoot thing is nothing more than a stupid joke. Unless there's fisting involved.....
idiotkid 03-28-2007, 03:29 AM Why use Porn models when we can use band members and other related peoples?
Lust: Jimmy
Gluttony: D'arcy
Greed: James
Sloth: Courtney Love
Wrath: Evan Dando
Envy: Stephen Malkmus
Pride: Billy
and the end result of all the sinning? jonathan melvoin.
IWishIWasBlank 03-28-2007, 08:03 AM Oh my god, like, those photos, were like, so gay. I mean totally! So anyway, I got these new shoes. I know! Aren't they just adorable!
I've got too many shoes.
mellon_c0llie 03-28-2007, 01:03 PM http://wolverine.cameron.edu/~db106244/strawmnwebs/zeitgeist-promo.jpg
jimmy drevpile 03-28-2007, 01:19 PM Not only am I a fan of her anal and ultra-hardcore tendencies, but she has Bowie and Tool references in her photo gallery. I'm really sold on this chick now.
However, I hope to god that this porn star photo shoot thing is nothing more than a stupid joke. Unless there's fisting involved.....
her work is fucking shit and she has no brain.
p.s. i had no idea elvis was in the band... thanks for the info
DeviousJ 03-28-2007, 05:53 PM I believe you are correct, actually. I would also like to apologize to Avenir for calling it "unremarkable." I am sorry Avenir, I will continue to use you extensively in my projects. I just don't see you as being an album cover sort of typeface. You are solid and dependable and clean and a rock album demands something a little crazier. No one is going to develop a shitty toss-off version of you and put it in some Smashing Pumpkins Font Collection.
Let's make that font
Lord Lemons 03-28-2007, 07:02 PM http://mercedeshelnwein.com/images/portfolio/bookofdisquiet/fullsize/disquiet-chrisR.jpg
John Petrucci?
mayday 03-28-2007, 08:58 PM not at all pleasant but...very interesting art. she draws alot of people that look dead or injuried ...
Though the book of disquiet is haunting it's achieved alot. She tried to capture those essences and did. Most people like painting lighthouses and brooks... this woman really captured manifesations of the dark side of the soul or diminishing soul. The envy one is really unpleasant but there's alot to be said about what she was able to capture.
mayday 03-28-2007, 09:19 PM Her art is way better than her Dad's so far... she's austrian and Irish. Interesting.
and his stuff with the little children is burn worthy. No wonder he's worked with marilyn manson. they do the same kind of lame shock effect with horrible themes.
totally uninteresting and statementless.
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