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Effloresce
03-19-2007, 02:34 PM
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:erm:

wHATcOLOR
03-19-2007, 02:37 PM
i haven't even watched this video, but i know its been posted here within the last week or so

HorseflyKing
03-19-2007, 02:39 PM
Why would you post this?
Does anything else happen besides this dude talking?
I don't know who is a bigger waste of bandwidth, that dude for making it or you for posting it.

Floppy Nono
03-19-2007, 02:42 PM
i love how he says xbox ain't got GAYEMS!

Eulogy
03-19-2007, 02:44 PM
so this is the second time you've posted a thread in the last two days that is repeating something that was posted in the last week. i haven't been here all that much lately and i can recognize that. jesus christ.

cosmos
03-19-2007, 02:45 PM
nothing slips under eff's radar, huh

cosmos
03-19-2007, 02:45 PM
except for the search function

sppunk
03-19-2007, 02:48 PM
It's much better when you e-stalk Netphorians than post repeated drivel.

At least with your e-stalking we're not all forced to wade through your shit posts.

cosmos
03-19-2007, 02:50 PM
but we are, sppunk

ravenguy2000
03-19-2007, 02:59 PM
the real question is how many girls he pm'd this to before he posted it here

neopryn
03-19-2007, 03:01 PM
if i know the women, nothing gets them as wet as a guy talking about videogames

Effloresce
03-19-2007, 03:06 PM
i love how he says xbox ain't got GAYEMS!
So bad, it's good

Effloresce
03-19-2007, 03:07 PM
Why would you post this?
Does anything else happen besides this dude talking?
I don't know who is a bigger waste of bandwidth, that dude for making it or you for posting it.
Definitely the dude who made it.

sppunk
03-19-2007, 03:07 PM
if i know the women, nothing gets them as wet as a guy talking about videogames
Maybe that's why Dead's ex lied to him that she had to go to Europe for six months!

HorseflyKing
03-19-2007, 03:11 PM
Definitely the dude who made it.
Thank you for clearing that up.

Effloresce
03-19-2007, 03:15 PM
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This kid is gonna cry!

BumbleBeeMouth
03-19-2007, 03:51 PM
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Geek USA
03-19-2007, 03:53 PM
^ LOL.

Effloresce
03-19-2007, 03:55 PM
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:rofl:

Nimrod's Son
03-19-2007, 03:56 PM
Eff's three topics:
Creepy stalking/trying to hit on women by being their knight on a horse
Making asinine threads about politics when it's obvious to those on the left, right, and middle that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Anti-PS3 fanboy nonsense

I'm Hardcore
03-19-2007, 03:56 PM
Maybe that's why Dead's ex lied to him that she had to go to Europe for six months!

:(

Effloresce
03-19-2007, 03:58 PM
Eff's three topics:
Making asinine threads about politics when it's obvious to those on the left, right, and middle that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Anti-PS3 fanboy nonsense

That's two.

Also, I like Sony, but they're fucking up so bad that even I can't defend their sorry asses.

Trotskilicious
03-19-2007, 04:01 PM
when are you going to stop posting, eff?

ravenguy2000
03-19-2007, 04:02 PM
NOT SOON ENOUGH

LOL!

I'm Hardcore
03-19-2007, 04:04 PM
i like you Ravenguy

Geek USA
03-19-2007, 04:06 PM
wait Effloresce is a guy?!

neopryn
03-19-2007, 04:09 PM
hard to believe, isn't it?

Geek USA
03-19-2007, 04:11 PM
hard to believe, isn't it?


yeah. I thought he was a 17 year old girl or something :erm:

Rarely
03-19-2007, 04:12 PM
Nimrod's Son's three topics:
Creepy stalking/trying to hit on women by being their knight on a horse and then trolling them regarding their physical appearances when he is E-rejected.
Making asinine threads about politics when it's obvious to those on the left, right, and middle that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
PS3 fanboy nonsense

I'm Hardcore
03-19-2007, 04:13 PM
yeah. I thought he was a 17 year old girl or something :erm:

Nimrod would have been all over it

Trotskilicious
03-19-2007, 04:15 PM
haha geo nice burn

Nimrod's Son
03-19-2007, 04:16 PM
Nimrod would have been all over it
nah, i like my chicks legal

Nimrod's Son
03-19-2007, 04:16 PM
barely though

ravenguy2000
03-19-2007, 04:16 PM
i like you Ravenguy

i'd prefer you tell me in a PM while also asking me for pics of myself

I'm Hardcore
03-19-2007, 04:28 PM
i'd prefer you tell me in a PM while also asking me for pics of myself

Effloresce to thread, immediately

the
03-19-2007, 05:38 PM
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JokeyLoki
03-19-2007, 07:44 PM
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:rofl:

Effloresce
03-19-2007, 10:03 PM
That dude is such a poser.

ravenguy2000
03-19-2007, 10:07 PM
some incredible insight right there

Effloresce
03-19-2007, 10:20 PM
Picking on every post I make won't make me go away, fatty

Floppy Nono
03-19-2007, 10:21 PM
Picking on every post I make won't make me go away, fatty


you'd think he'd have learn as much from his attacks on me

Effloresce
03-19-2007, 10:24 PM
These douchebags don't learn anything.

Effloresce
03-19-2007, 10:35 PM
DMC4 went multiplatform. PS3/360/PC.

LOL Sony.

Floppy Nono
03-19-2007, 10:36 PM
lol xbox took out a back cover advertisement for gears of war on an issue of Playstation Magazine 3...that makes me chuckle whenever i think of it.

http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/01/psm3feb.jpg

waltermcphilp
03-19-2007, 10:44 PM
DMC4 went multiplatform. PS3/360/PC.

LOL Sony.

thats pretty lame. :(

Effloresce
03-19-2007, 10:49 PM
I assume you like Sony? So do I. But even I cannot defend them for being so stupid right now. Sony has until this Christmas to get their act together (read: drop the two SKU idea and get the console at $400 with some must have games) or they're going to give this generation away. It's that simple...

Floppy Nono: lol

Floppy Nono
03-19-2007, 10:54 PM
I assume you like Sony? So do I. But even I cannot defend them for being so stupid right now. Sony has until this Christmas to get their act together (read: drop the two SKU idea and get the console at $400 with some must have games) or they're going to give this generation away. It's that simple...

Floppy Nono: lol


don't count on that happening any time soon, guy.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/20/ken-kutaragi-sez-i-promise-an-av-centric-ps3/


if that Frankenstein console comes out then suddenly the $600 model ironically becomes the CHEAPER model of the PS3

Effloresce
03-19-2007, 11:02 PM
Well aware of that possibility, but Sony needs to let reality sink in...

waltermcphilp
03-19-2007, 11:02 PM
thats pretty fucking stupid.

Effloresce
03-19-2007, 11:04 PM
Welcome to the new and not so improved Sony.

Floppy Nono
03-19-2007, 11:04 PM
Well aware of that possibility, but Sony needs to let reality sink in...

reality doesn't seem to exist in terms of the ps3, i guess. even if it was on par with the price of the 360, many games look considerably white washed and plain on the ps3 compared to the exact same game on the 360. Armored Core 4 comes to mind...

Effloresce
03-19-2007, 11:09 PM
Have you seen the trailer for the new Ratchet and Clank? PS3 needs games like this TODAY. Honestly, it has the best advanced visuals I've seen in a console game to date. It looks like prerendered CG. Like Pixar or something.

In the long run Blu Ray will prove to be very useful for games since you can have a much greater texture variety... not to mention there's a hard drive to install huge chunks of games to. The question is if the mainstream will give a shit about this, and quite honestly, I don't think they will as long as Sony stays in la-la land and keeps it priced at $600.

Floppy Nono
03-19-2007, 11:22 PM
i don't think they would either way. even with the installs, ps3 games still have load times and in a basketball game i saw being played on an in store kiosk the players limbs went through the bodies of other players. It's clearly not helping the games to run smoother andi n this current age of gaming and HD, something like that just seems so unforgivable and disgusting to me.

BlissedandGone2
03-20-2007, 12:11 AM
i still cant find a wii anywhere. wtf mate?

Trotskilicious
03-20-2007, 12:49 AM
sweet merciful jesus. floppy nono and effloresce are becoming friends.

this requires an immediate and permenant ban

Dead
03-20-2007, 12:49 AM
I'll tell you why PS3 will win the console war: HDMI cables are cool. I just got an upconverting dvd player and it came with one, it's totally rad. 1 cable doing the work of 5, what will they think of next? If Xbox is smart they will add hdmi to the xbox 361 which according to rumors they will. watch out sony!

Floppy Nono
03-20-2007, 01:02 AM
sweet merciful jesus. floppy nono and effloresce are becoming friends.

this requires an immediate and permenant ban


lol, you cry more than a baby with colic. you really need to just shut the fuck up, making fun of me is about as trendy as it is to call yourself a fan of indie just because you heard the shins once. give it a rest and go get laid, or something.

Floppy Nono
03-20-2007, 01:06 AM
oh, and learn to spell permanent correctly. it's a 4th grade vocabulary word, for Christ sake.

Dead
03-20-2007, 01:06 AM
hahah

Trotskilicious
03-20-2007, 01:21 AM
lol, you cry more than a baby with colic. you really need to just shut the fuck up, making fun of me is about as trendy as it is to call yourself a fan of indie just because you heard the shins once. give it a rest and go get laid, or something.

it's funny how every time someone makes a joke about how boring and shitty you are, they're crying, but your itemized retorts are anything but.

permanent ban

Nimrod's Son
03-20-2007, 01:26 AM
i think the bets part of this thread is how Effloresce is poor and whines about how much everything costs and his parents won't buy him a ps3

Floppy Nono
03-20-2007, 01:27 AM
it's funny how every time someone makes a joke about how boring and shitty you are, they're crying, but your itemized retorts are anything but.

permanent ban


really? it's not that funny, considering you've broken the entire train of thought in the thread to criticize me and eff for having a similar opinion on the sorry state of sony. to follow up you creative little insight, you called for a permanent (which i'm so glad you spelled correctly this time) ban because i guess you're a real hardcore boarder and it's SO FUCKING ORIGINAL to call for that.

of all the people on this forum i have to take shit from on a regular basis, you're not going to be one of them. aren't you some kind of virgin or something, anyway? you are the very definition of trivial.

yo soy el mejor
03-20-2007, 01:55 AM
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:rofl:

avian chaos
03-20-2007, 02:03 AM
Effloresce and Floppy Nono: A Match Made in Heaven.

I'm Hardcore
03-20-2007, 02:15 AM
this thread: shit

strange_one
03-20-2007, 02:55 AM
<font color=33FFFF> noone seems to remember I posted this days ago</font>

GlasgowKiss
03-20-2007, 07:54 AM
<font color=33FFFF> noone seems to remember I posted this days ago</font>
You great lumbering pillock.

ravenguy2000
03-20-2007, 08:54 AM
oh, and learn to spell permanent correctly. it's a 4th grade vocabulary word, for Christ sake.

lol at you not capitalizing anything but "Christ" in your post

watch out if you misspell anything though, floppy nono is on the hunt for you!

Trotskilicious
03-20-2007, 01:20 PM
Also, it should be "for Christ's sake."

Effloresce
03-20-2007, 01:34 PM
i think the bets part of this thread is how Effloresce is poor and whines about how much everything costs and his parents won't buy him a ps3
I buy my own consoles, thanks. Sony dropped the ball dude, it doesn't matter if you're rich or poor. They fucked up and their chances of recovering are getting worse all the time. Anyone who can't see this is a fool.

avian chaos: It's really not a match made in heaven, just two people trying to have an actual discussion about something without acting like posers.

Anyway, Ace Combat is now also going to 360. LOL at Sony again.

Floppy Nono
03-20-2007, 01:59 PM
Speaking with GameSpot during GDC, Final Fantasy creator and head of Mistwalker Studio, Hironobu Sakaguchi, had some interesting things to say about his recent projects, Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey, as well as a few choice thoughts on Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, and game development in general. One nice bit of info: There will be a playable demo of Blue Dragon available on Marketplace before the game ships in August (Sakaguchi hopes for a June or July release for the demo).

Speaking about the Xbox 360 itself, Sakaguchi believes it to be an excellent development platform. Sakaguchi notes his collaboration with Artoon and Ensemble Studios, stating that it has been very beneficial to his development process. Sakaguchi says that once he saw how well the 360 handled water effects, he actually created more ponds and lakes in Blue Dragon just because they looked beautiful. Sakaguchi is also impressed by the Xbox Live network, noting the expense and difficulty that Square encountered in building networks for its games.

As for the 360's performance in Japan, Sakaguchi says it's all about marketing. For instance, he loves Gears of War (we already knew that), but says it was so poorly marketed that it's virtually unknown in Japan. Sakaguchi believes that Microsoft still hasn't latched onto a marketing campaign on par with "Jump In," and he says that "Do! do! do!" isn't cutting it.

Concerning Sony's PS3, Sakaguchi is unimpressed, stating, "Kutaragi-san's architecture ... seven DSPs and a low-powered CPU. I don't like the PS3's architecture." Sakaguchi believes that programmers want to create good software, but PS3 designer, Ken Kutaragi, has made it very difficult. The PS3 disses don't stop their either. When questioned about motion control, Kutaragi says that he finds it unnecessary for the kinds of games he develops (RPGs). Furthermore, he notes that the 360 controller is the "the best one that I've seen, especially the analog. And it's easy to operate, and it's really reactive, unlike the Sixaxis."

When questioned about Final Fantasy and how he would feel about competing with it should it ever grace the 360, Sakaguchi welcomes the challenge. Furthermore, he believes the series should be ported to the Xbox 360, as it would be very successful in North America and Europe. He also notes that the White Engine (Final Fantasy XIII's engine) is multiplatform, implying that a 360 port would be relatively easy.

Finally, Sakaguchi says that Gears of War impressed him so much, he's interested in developing a shooter himself. Hit the "read" link for the full interview.

here's the full interview: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6167571.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=newstop&tag=newstop;title;2

Effloresce
03-20-2007, 02:05 PM
Ha. He's right about 360's controller, too. Sony's controller looks and feels like a kid's toy, I'm sick of it.

Also, it's interesting that White Engine is multiplatform. What I wonder now is if they are currently developing it with PS3 in mind, how would a multidisc approach work on 360? That would be a pain in the ass, always swapping discs depending on what area you're in. I wonder if a hard drive would be required?

Floppy Nono
03-20-2007, 02:13 PM
i believe blue dragon is 2 or 3 discs in japan for the 360 but i can't say for sure. it is a hassle but i think blue dragon is still doing considerably well, as far as xbox games in japan go. maybe they could have an option to install parts of the game onto the hard drive to avoid disc swapping.



edit: it is 3 dvds

Trotskilicious
03-20-2007, 02:13 PM
:cry:

fixed

Effloresce
03-20-2007, 02:17 PM
i believe blue dragon is 2 or 3 discs in japan for the 360 but i can't say for sure. it is a hassle but i think blue dragon is still doing considerably well, as far as xbox games in japan go. maybe they could have an option to install parts of the game onto the hard drive to avoid disc swapping.
Yes but BD was designed to be multidisc. Also, it is to my understanding that BD is only multidisc because of FMV and voice acting. Meaning the whole game world fits on every disc. FFXIII may have not been initially developed like that. Excluding FMV, the whole game might be like 20GB or something.

MS may kill the trend of an add-on hard drive (or, to go back, 32X for Genesis) not being all that appealing. And it would make sense. Consoles are being marketed more like computers now anyway. Except for Wii.

Effloresce
03-20-2007, 02:18 PM
fixed
That makes no sense dude.

ravenguy2000
03-20-2007, 02:26 PM
i liked this thread better when we weren't talking about video games

Floppy Nono
03-20-2007, 02:28 PM
Yes but BD was designed to be multidisc. Also, it is to my understanding that BD is only multidisc because of FMV and voice acting. Meaning the whole game world fits on every disc. FFXIII may have not been initially developed like that. Excluding FMV, the whole game might be like 20GB or something.

MS may kill the trend of an add-on hard drive (or, to go back, 32X for Genesis) not being all that appealing. And it would make sense. Consoles are being marketed more like computers now anyway. Except for Wii.

yeah, it's going to be very interesting to see how the wii figures into this generation down the line. love it or hate it (i own one and i am neutral about it), you still have to admit it's inferior in terms of hardware power to the other two but on the other hand, it forces developers into coming up with original and interesting ideas for the wiimote. however, that also leads to the question, will developers want to spend their time and resources doing such?

Effloresce
03-20-2007, 03:15 PM
Ravenguy: Well it is a gaming thread.

Floppy: As long as people buy it, yes. But Wii is kind of a specialized market anyway.

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-30603.aspx

Boris Schneider-Johne, Xbox Product Manager of Microsoft Germany, today hints at his blog, called dreisechtig.net (German for threesixty), that Devil May Cry 4 may only be the first of three exclusive PS3-games coming also to Xbox 360.

On his blog, he posted the following phrase:

"One down, two to go"

Followed by the names of three games: Devil May Cry (striked), Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid.

It is unknown if this is only a personal wish of Schneider-Johne, or that maybe Microsoft has more surprise for us coming soon. But now Devil May Cry 4 has made the final step, nothing seems to be unthinkable anymore.
PS3 is dead for sure if it loses FF.

waltermcphilp
03-20-2007, 03:20 PM
if metal gear and FF join DMC4 i'm definitely not buying a PS3.

although that may work to my benefit since my brother has an xbox 360. it would certainly be cheaper. i would just need to spend the 60$ for each game. actually, i hope they come out for 360. fuck sony.

Floppy Nono
03-20-2007, 03:20 PM
http://www.icanhascheezburger.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/ps31.jpg

Effloresce
03-20-2007, 03:36 PM
haha

Dead
03-20-2007, 03:45 PM
I love my Wii but they are seriously dropping the ball with online. I will eventually buy a "next gen" system to go along with the Wii and it's definitely looking like 360 is the way to go. It's entirely possible that sony will make a comeback within a year or two but it sure doesn't look that way so far. Before the PS3 launch I'd have never thought I would buy an Xbox, I love my PS2, but ever since the price point announcement and everything following that, PS3 is very unappealing (but Home looks kind of rad.)

i like this thread topic

Effloresce
03-20-2007, 03:50 PM
PS3 has until this Christmas, seriously. By then 360 will have a price drop and a TON of games. They need to get the ball rolling now.

Floppy Nono
03-20-2007, 04:06 PM
by fall, halo 3 will be out and like it or not, that game is a sales juggernaut. PS3 is going to need to have an amazing E3 to try and negate some of the hype for that.

Nimrod's Son
03-20-2007, 04:13 PM
I buy my own consoles, thanks. Sony dropped the ball dude, it doesn't matter if you're rich or poor. They fucked up and their chances of recovering are getting worse all the time. Anyone who can't see this is a fool.

avian chaos: It's really not a match made in heaven, just two people trying to have an actual discussion about something without acting like posers.

Anyway, Ace Combat is now also going to 360. LOL at Sony again.
They're charging $600 for a system that comes with a BluRay drive, or I can go and buy a BluRay drive for like .... $600. HD gaming is going to be the future, and your biggest complaints here have all been about how cheap you are

Trotskilicious
03-20-2007, 04:18 PM
I think it's funny how the PS3 makes the Xbox 360 look cheap.

Floppy Nono
03-20-2007, 04:23 PM
I think it's funny how Sony continuously loses developer support and 3rd party exclusives to the Xbox 360 and fails to even acknowledge it or alter its sales strategy.

I'm Hardcore
03-20-2007, 04:31 PM
im gonna put a Blu Ray in my master system

Esty
03-20-2007, 04:38 PM
I think its funny dead has to pay for all his gaming now. I wonder if he asked his parents for an increase in his weekly allowance.

gpub
03-20-2007, 04:39 PM
I'm gonna put my blu ray in your ass

Floppy Nono
03-20-2007, 04:50 PM
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/03/xbox-360-black.jpg
We've confirmed with trusted sources that the black Xbox 360 is indeed coming (the image above is of the original 360 dev kit, FYI), and will be dubbed the Xbox 360 Elite. Here's what you need to know about it:

* The Elite will be limited quantities only; that may be as much or as little as a couple hundred thousand.
* The case, controller, and Live headset will all be black. It will have all new packaging.
* Elite will cost $479, and will be a 3rd SKU; it will be sold alongside Premium and Core packs.
* Eventually Elite hardware (in white plastics) will take the role of the Xbox Premium. That is to say, after the Elite is launched and sold out, future Xbox Premiums will have 120GB / HDMI.
* We do not yet know exactly when 120GB / HDMI will become the standard for Premium, but it is loosely estimated to be late summer or fall.
* Elite models run cooler than normal 360s, but they are not yet confirmed to have 65nm chips.
* Prices may remain the same with the 120GB / HDMI hardware upgrade in the Premium Xbox, but we may still see a price cut on the line when 65nm chips start shipping.
* The HD DVD drive will not be internal or bundled -- Microsoft never did or nor does not currently have plans to put an HD DVD drive in the 360.
* There are no current plans to integrate WiFi into the Elite or future Premiums (although that can always change).

Dead
03-20-2007, 05:53 PM
I've been reading those rumors for several months, is that news somehow more concrete? I'm definitely waiting for the newer Xbox model before I buy one, but the limited edition idea sounds stupid. One rumor was that they would phase out core, replace that with premium at the lower price, and have the black one take the place of the premium. I like that idea. How much is the current premium in the US vs this $479 elite one?

Deaddy over and out. (fu esty)

I'm Hardcore
03-20-2007, 06:45 PM
I'm gonna put my blu ray in your ass

fucking give it to me, you filthy asshole!

Floppy Nono
03-20-2007, 07:43 PM
I've been reading those rumors for several months, is that news somehow more concrete? I'm definitely waiting for the newer Xbox model before I buy one, but the limited edition idea sounds stupid. One rumor was that they would phase out core, replace that with premium at the lower price, and have the black one take the place of the premium. I like that idea. How much is the current premium in the US vs this $479 elite one?

Deaddy over and out. (fu esty)


that rumor has been confirmed by GI magazine who is running a story on it in april and officially commented to say they have a strict policy against april fools jokes. the current premium is 400 dollars but considering that one comes with a 120 gb hdd (100 gb increase), hdmi output, and hdmi, just for 79 dollars more, it's easily a good deal. i believe the rumor you suggested is the one that's going to happen close to the holiday season. i remember reading somewhere that each 360 sold is a profit of over 100 dollars to microsoft and a price cut wouldn't be out of the question with those statistics.

here are the scans and where the confirmation from GI is noted, in case you were interested in more proof of validity (it IS that april fools day season, after all)

http://kotaku.com/gaming/top/rumor-game-mag-validates-black-xbox-360-245472.php



edit: actually, i guess i misheard, as it seems they are about 76 dollars profit for each system before costs. compared to the 240-300 dollar loss sony has per ps3 sold.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061116-8239.html

Nimrod's Son
03-20-2007, 07:50 PM
that rumor has been confirmed by GI magazine who is running a story on it in april and officially commented to say they have a strict policy against april fools jokes. the current premium is 400 dollars but considering that one comes with a 120 gb hdd (100 gb increase), hdmi output, and hdmi, just for 79 dollars more, it's easily a good deal. i believe the rumor you suggested is the one that's going to happen close to the holiday season. i remember reading somewhere that each 360 sold is a profit of over 100 dollars to microsoft and a price cut wouldn't be out of the question with those statistics.

here are the scans and where the confirmation from GI is noted, in case you were interested in more proof of validity (it IS that april fools day season, after all)

http://kotaku.com/gaming/top/rumor-game-mag-validates-black-xbox-360-245472.php
that's a great deal. you can buy that and an external HD DVD drive and spend way more than everyone's complaining about for a ps3.

morans

Floppy Nono
03-20-2007, 07:51 PM
yeah, the only difference is people have the option to buy the hd-dvd player, as opposed to having the cost forced into the deal. also, im pretty sure that hard drive is double the size as the one sony offers on their top of the line sku.


oh, and even with the top of the line ps3, you have to buy an HDMI cable, the 1st party cable selling at a price of $50.

Esty
03-20-2007, 08:22 PM
Deaddy over and out. (fu esty)

What, did I hit close to home?

DeviousJ
03-20-2007, 08:42 PM
I'll tell you why PS3 will win the console war: HDMI cables are cool. I just got an upconverting dvd player and it came with one, it's totally rad. 1 cable doing the work of 5, what will they think of next?

I don't know, something else Europe has had for two or three decades?

Future Boy
03-20-2007, 09:55 PM
They're charging $600 for a system that comes with a BluRay drive, or I can go and buy a BluRay drive for like .... $600. HD gaming is going to be the future, and your biggest complaints here have all been about how cheap you are

Thats a great selling point for anyone interested in buying a blue-ray player.

Effloresce
03-20-2007, 10:08 PM
The only moron in this discussion is you, Nimrod.

HDMI cables go for like $10 or less at monoprice.com, btw. If you are looking for one, go there.

Dead
03-20-2007, 11:51 PM
that rumor has been confirmed by GI magazine who is running a story on it in april and officially commented to say they have a strict policy against april fools jokes. the current premium is 400 dollars but considering that one comes with a 120 gb hdd (100 gb increase), hdmi output, and hdmi, just for 79 dollars more, it's easily a good deal. i believe the rumor you suggested is the one that's going to happen close to the holiday season. i remember reading somewhere that each 360 sold is a profit of over 100 dollars to microsoft and a price cut wouldn't be out of the question with those statistics.

Looks legit. I'm not sure why HDMI is being hyped so much as one of 2 new features of the new 360. Am I missing something here? Isn't HDMI equal in quality to component and DVI? I mean it's nice to get everything in one cable instead of 3 or 5 but it's not worth being a major reason to rerelease a system. I know HDMI has some copy protection potential but I thought that wasn't going to be used for games this generation. I totally understand a bigger hdd being a selling point though.

Dead
03-20-2007, 11:53 PM
I had to buy an HDMI cable for my new HD receiver tonight and I found a Belkin one downtown at a computer shop for $25. That's cheap for here, and it's even brand name. At BestBuy the guy was selling them for like $80-$120. I had gone down with the intention of buying a generic one for $30 so I came away with a good deal.

I fully expect someone to call me an idiot and say you can get them for $10 online, but I wanted one tonight dammit.

Dead
03-20-2007, 11:56 PM
I don't know, something else Europe has had for two or three decades?
europe has had hdmi for 30 years? that's amazing.

Floppy Nono
03-21-2007, 12:03 AM
Looks legit. I'm not sure why HDMI is being hyped so much as one of 2 new features of the new 360. Am I missing something here? Isn't HDMI equal in quality to component and DVI? I mean it's nice to get everything in one cable instead of 3 or 5 but it's not worth being a major reason to rerelease a system. I know HDMI has some copy protection potential but I thought that wasn't going to be used for games this generation. I totally understand a bigger hdd being a selling point though.

i'm under the impression HDMI is just DVI with the sound in one wire but both are superior to component in terms of picture quality. if you want true high definition you need to go with HDMI and (in the opinion of sony) 1080p.

the system will also be running cooler and quieter, as i assume they have fixed the extreme volume of the dvd drive when it runs.

Dead
03-21-2007, 01:08 AM
well yea that's gotta be true since component is analog and dvi/hdmi are digital. 1080p can suck my anus though. I read that the most recent 360s have a new dvd drive in them that's quieter (benq brand i think)

I just spent 30 minutes snaking a ton of cables around my tv and hdmi sure simplifies things vs component, ugh!

GlasgowKiss
03-21-2007, 06:32 AM
europe has had hdmi for 30 years? that's amazing.
:rofl:

strange_one
03-21-2007, 06:36 AM
<font color=33FFFF> there should be an Elite 360 in white as well straight off, I wouldn't want a black one, reminds me of the old xbox too much.</font>

Dead
03-21-2007, 03:12 PM
i only want a black one. but i'm not one of these jackasses that waits 2 years for a black wii. i'll buy white if i have to, bitches.

Esty
03-21-2007, 03:14 PM
I thought you weren't "back" but you post all the fucking time. Are you officially back for the 4th time or what?

Dead
03-21-2007, 03:15 PM
pretty much. great observation skills.

Esty
03-21-2007, 03:17 PM
So did you go to any other messageboards while you were gone? Did they make you leave too?

Dead
03-21-2007, 03:21 PM
you used that one already

Esty
03-21-2007, 03:24 PM
Have I? Did you answer?

Dead
03-21-2007, 03:25 PM
No, I ignored it.

Esty
03-21-2007, 03:32 PM
So answer it now.

Dead
03-21-2007, 03:46 PM
i joined the kylie board but they banned me for being too gay for a straight guy. intolerant gays!

Floppy Nono
03-22-2007, 12:12 AM
http://kotaku.com/gaming/ffxiii/rumour-ffxiii-exclusivity-up-in-the-air-246094.php

Esty
03-22-2007, 12:13 AM
http://kotaku.com/gaming/top/only-three-people-lining-up-in-london-for-ps3-246114.php

This one is better.

Floppy Nono
03-22-2007, 12:19 AM
http://kotaku.com/gaming/top/only-three-people-lining-up-in-london-for-ps3-246114.php

This one is better.


that is a much better story :(

Floppy Nono
03-22-2007, 07:07 PM
it's not as good as this one though

http://www.360monster.com/newspost.php?id=0000001814




SDF: Boycotting Capcom

It would appear the SDF [Sony Defense Force] have started up a petition to boycott Capcom 's merchandise including Devil May Cry 4. (Why)? Well the reason they've decided to do this is because Capcom have decided to release DMC4 on Xbox 360.

"To Capcom,

We (The people that have signed this petition) feel very left out in your decision to make Devil May Cry 4 a Multi-Platform title, and hereby agree to boycott your sale of Capcom affiliated games. This is due to your decision to turn your back on your most faithful gaming company. For years we have enjoyed games, we have reaped the benefits of your committment to Sony. We find it absolutely demoralizing for not only the gamers, but also Sony itself. We want you to know that will not, and should not stand for your actions, and therefore withold our option of buying your product."

Amazingly 993 people have signed the petition and the number is growing fast. Many of the comments are just for a laugh so a total figure of how many people are actually upset about this is unknown. If you want to sign the petition you can do so by clicking HERE

Let us know what you guys think of the recent petition by leaving us a comment below

DeviousJ
03-22-2007, 08:02 PM
"We feel left out by your inclusive multi-platform releases"

Fanboys are awesome

Effloresce
03-22-2007, 08:54 PM
Oh man

http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/10editeurs20070323_013535_14_big
^
Pretty sad when this is the highlight of the French launch.

http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/10editeurs20070323_012703_13_big.jpg
^
Nice line.

Sony's fucking done. Get over it Nimrod.

You know, I hope Sony goes out of business altogether. Fuck them and fuck their overpriced products of inferior quality. It's one thing to pay for something worth the cash, but most Sony products are overpriced pieces of garbage.

Effloresce
03-22-2007, 09:00 PM
http://i14.tinypic.com/3463vad.jpg

:rofl:

Andy /
03-22-2007, 09:08 PM
http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2007/03/reporting-live-from-ps3-launch-event.html

http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/pics4/ps3launchevent4a.jpg

There are two people queuing for a PS3. The first one is a woman. All the other people in this picture are journalists and PR people who were probably expecting a better turn out, plus security guards who can't believe how easy the job is as all they have to do is take the names of a few meek writers who want to take photos for their blogs.

Effloresce
03-22-2007, 09:09 PM
I wonder what Nimrod has to say about this. I guess those are the only two rich people in France, lol.

Andy /
03-22-2007, 09:10 PM
Someone needs to macro this.

<img src=http://forums.netphoria.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=31226&stc=1</img>

Effloresce
03-22-2007, 09:12 PM
Those of you who remember the 360 Japanese launch pics should get a kick out of this one.

http://i7.tinypic.com/300fxw6.jpg

Effloresce
03-22-2007, 09:14 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/news/games/...153291466.html

The launch of Sony's PlayStation 3 games console got off to a feeble start last night with officials, media and security outnumbering customers for most of the evening.

Over 500 retailers around the country threw open their doors as the clock struck 12:00am, expecting the frenzy that accompanied the games console's overseas debuts.

But most stores were virtually deserted, despite the 20,000 pre-orders Sony said it had received.

Even at the official launch event held at Myer's Pitt Street store in Sydney's CBD and attended by Sony's local managing director, Michael Ephraim, media and security outnumbered PS3 fans until at least 11:00pm.

At midnight, about 40 PS3 buyers had arrived to collect their consoles, causing distress for the army of camera crews who turned up expecting to capture launch mayhem.

Desperate producers unashamedly asked the crowd to fake excitement when the cameras were rolling, while a team from 2Day FM let out bogus cheers to convince their radio listeners that a launch extravaganza was underway.

The scene was a stark contrast to the US launch in November last year, where one man was shot by thieves and fights broke out over limited stock.

In Britain, where the PS3 was also launched today, two major Oxford Street stores in London - Game and HMV - cancelled their launch events amid police fears of muggings.

Danny Zarka, 31, was first in line to collect his PS3, which was handed to him personally by Mr Ephraim and Myer CEO Bernie Brookes.

The advertising executive from Pyrmont was shocked because he had arrived after 9pm, yet still found himself at the front of the queue.

"I'm surprised there aren't more people here, I thought the place would be packed," he said.

The PS3 launches with a total of 30 games, each with a recommended retail price of $99.95.

One of those games is Gran Turismo: HD, which Sony is offering free - as a download from the Playstation Network - to all PS3 buyers.

And Sony said the first 20,000 people to register their PS3 online would receive a free copy of the latest James Bond movie Casino Royale on Blu-ray disc.

From today, Sony will launch into its $6 million marketing campaign, which it hopes will convince the public that the PS3 is not just a games machine but an all-in-one home entertainment system.

The campaign will stress the inclusion of a high-definition Blu-ray disc player, sleek design, 60GB hard drive, web browser and, most importantly, the PS3's ability to act as a multimedia hub for organising photos, music and movies.

This is crucial if Sony is to convince consumers that the PS3's $999 price tag is justified, in the face of the $650 Xbox 360 and $399 Nintendo Wii.

A Sony spokeswoman said: "The marketing tag line for PlayStation 3 is 'This is Living' and you'll see this develop with time to incl.ude broader messaging beyond gaming enthusiasts; after launch we will begin our approach to communicate with entertainment enthusiasts and beyond."

Travis Johnson, a veteran advertising executive at Universal McCann, was partly responsible for the Xbox 360's launch marketing campaign. He described Sony's $6 million budget as "sizeable", and said the Xbox 360 only launched with a $1 million marketing spend.

The PS3 was originally slated for release locally on November 17, but this date was pushed back to today due to production delays.

It has meant the Wii and Xbox 360 have a significant head-start in the next-generation console wars - the Wii has been on sale since early December, while the Xbox 360 has its first birthday next week.

Another potential stumbling block for Sony is the fact that it has priced the PS3 higher in Australia than it has overseas. The console sells for just ¥60,000 ($630) in Japan and $US599 ($740) in the US.

Mr Ephraim said in an interview last month the higher price was justified because factors such as Australia's currency exchange rate and small population size when compared with the US led to a higher cost of doing business.

Owners of the previous PlayStation, the PS2, should also bear in mind that PS2 games will not necessarily be compatible with the PS3.

A full list of compatible games can be found here - 1782 PS2 titles are listed, which represent the majority of the 2308 PS2 games that Sony shipped to Australia.

Sony = :cry:

Tchocky
03-22-2007, 11:44 PM
Apparently Sony does plan on lowering the price of the PS3 by the end of this year...but only by a hundred bucks.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6167725.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=newsfeatured&tag=featurednews;title;1

Trotskilicious
03-23-2007, 12:59 AM
Fuck them and fuck their overpriced products of inferior quality. It's one thing to pay for something worth the cash, but most Sony products are overpriced pieces of garbage.

you're such a magnificent dumbshit. you do realize they make more than just gamesystems right?

Floppy Nono
03-23-2007, 01:14 AM
Maybe thats why he said most Sony PRODUCTS, not game systems, are overpriced.

Trotskilicious
03-23-2007, 01:24 AM
i was taking contest with the claim of poor quality which is false, and pretty much renders the whole angry pustule of a sentence entirely invalid.

they rushed the ps3 in a high stakes market. it sucks. they fucked up pretty bad. their stereo systems last quite a while. my parents had one that lasted 16 years. I had a sony walkman when i was a kid, dropped it frequently, still kept on ticking. i seriously doubt that they've let everything decline to the point of being no better than walmart mystery brands in the past few years.

Effloresce
03-23-2007, 09:28 PM
i was taking contest with the claim of poor quality which is false, and pretty much renders the whole angry pustule of a sentence entirely invalid.

OMG YOU ARE TAKING CONTEST AGAINST A POST ABOUT SONY ON THE INTERNET

WATCH THE FUCK OUT

PlayStation is a *huge* asset to Sony, there is no denying that the failure of PS3 will have a significant impact on the company. You and Nimrod need to get a room. Sony's not doing so hot across the board right now, and in the past, PS2 was their savior.

But I did indeed mention most Sony PRODUCTS are overpriced, PS3 just being one of the latest. If they were overpriced and reliable, I'd be ok with them. I've had a Sony PSX, PS2, car deck, stereo, television, and portable CD player all go bad on me. I take excellent care of my belongings.

Sorry for interrupting you -- go back to thinking your opinion actually holds any weight outside of general and political discussion on Netphoria.

Effloresce
03-23-2007, 09:35 PM
Oh, and a $100 price drop on the $600 model is bullshit. Phasing out the 20GB is the dumbest thing ever, but of course, Sony's pushing retailers to do it and cutting production on them as well.

Forget wireless, sell it as an optional adapter, that's where Sony can make a ton of money anyway. Forget card readers, you can get a USB based reader for $10 on newegg but once again, Sony could sell their own. Then just pack in a 40GB notebook hard drive and sell the $500 model for $400.

Trotskilicious
03-24-2007, 06:32 AM
OMG YOU ARE TAKING CONTEST AGAINST A POST ABOUT SONY ON THE INTERNET

WATCH THE FUCK OUT

PlayStation is a *huge* asset to Sony, there is no denying that the failure of PS3 will have a significant impact on the company. You and Nimrod need to get a room. Sony's not doing so hot across the board right now, and in the past, PS2 was their savior.

But I did indeed mention most Sony PRODUCTS are overpriced, PS3 just being one of the latest. If they were overpriced and reliable, I'd be ok with them. I've had a Sony PSX, PS2, car deck, stereo, television, and portable CD player all go bad on me. I take excellent care of my belongings.

Sorry for interrupting you -- go back to thinking your opinion actually holds any weight outside of general and political discussion on Netphoria.
You are a total cunt.

Ever
03-24-2007, 06:43 AM
I didn't want to believe anything bad posted about the quality of Sony's products after I'd had two monitors and one TV survive ridiculous beatings of spilled milk, earthquakes, things thrown at them and falling of chairs etc. to work perfectly fine for eleven years or so.

But my most recent sony TV just died on me cause of the humidity we had. My old TV wouldn't have done that. It would've persevered. I guess the company went soft somewhere down the line either that or, more likely, it's all probability and their products are of a general medium quality and I've been lucky till recently.

Trotskilicious
03-24-2007, 06:45 AM
there's no such thing as luck

sometimes i think everything is getting shittier as it starts to cost more

hdtv makes me angry

Ever
03-24-2007, 06:46 AM
Also through experience most other companies have even shoddier workmanship. Especially LG. The mobile phone I got from them had a screen fault and their monitor I own has a pretty crappy picture in general and a really strange color chip or whatever it's called. I'm too used to DCM.

Trotskilicious
03-24-2007, 06:47 AM
i don't know what dcm is

i have a magnavox television with these awful tiny little fucking speakers on it. it's embarassing how shitty these fuckers are.

Ever
03-24-2007, 06:48 AM
there's no such thing as luckHow could I forget.

I don't like the concept of probability at all. But its an easy way to describe phenomenon that would otherwise require heaps of research as to particular circumstances which lead to the event. That's why I used it I guess.

Kahlo
03-24-2007, 06:49 AM
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Ever
03-24-2007, 06:58 AM
i don't know what dcm is

i have a magnavox television with these awful tiny little fucking speakers on it. it's embarrassing how shitty these fuckers are.I just tried looking it up and I'm pretty sure I have no idea what I'm talking about. Somehow I remember it being Sony's chip they've used since forever for CRT screens.

Maybe nimrod or someone with a bit more technical knowledge in regards to sony will straighten me out.

Nimrod's Son
03-24-2007, 09:48 AM
idiot, i don't give a shit. i don't get paid if anyone sells a game console. i just love that morons like you care and that you trumpet inferior techno;pgy because it's what you can afford. or in eff's case, can't

Effloresce
03-24-2007, 01:11 PM
idiot, i don't give a shit. i don't get paid if anyone sells a game console. i just love that morons like you care and that you trumpet inferior techno;pgy because it's what you can afford. or in eff's case, can't
Actually I can afford a PS3 but I see no reason to waste my money on something that's going to fail.