Recently a discussion among some netphorians has arisen in regards to the possibility that there are some fake Q101 copies of Machina II floating around out there. I am hoping to confirm the authenticity of a few copies in question, but I cant find the exact answers I am looking for anywhere else.



The info that is needed is this:

1) Exactly how is a Q101 numbered? For example, lets say hypothetically that I had copy number 50. Should the number look like “50/2000”? should it look like “0050/2000”? should it look like “#0050/2000”? or something else entirely? Were they all numbered differently?

2) Does anybody know the real story behind who/how these disks were numbered? The rumor I heard was that it was just interns at Q101, but couldn’t get any more detailed than this.

3) Does anyone know exactly how many copies of the disks were made? Are there any stories of multiple numbers, disks un numbered, or disks with numbers higher than 2000?




Any info at all that anyone knows would be a huge help. If you own a copy, a posted picture or detailed description of what the back looks like with the numbering would be awesome.

Thanks alot!

If you own a copy, a posted picture or detailed description of what the back looks like with the numbering would be awesome.
I second this.

It would also be interesting to hear where and when you got your copy. Please add this info too.

Especially if you got your copy from Q101 back in the year 2000 I would like to know how the numbering looks like. But all other situations (eBay, via someone who got it from Q101, used record store, later than 2000, ...) are very welcome too.

Thanks.

i got mine from q101 back in 2000. i'll see if can do this for you guys next week when i'm back from vegas. :cool:

Recently a discussion among some netphorians has arisen in regards to the possibility that there are some fake Q101 copies of Machina II floating around out there. I am hoping to confirm the authenticity of a few copies in question, but I cant find the exact answers I am looking for anywhere else.



The info that is needed is this:

1) Exactly how is a Q101 numbered? For example, lets say hypothetically that I had copy number 50. Should the number look like “50/2000”? should it look like “0050/2000”? should it look like “#0050/2000”? or something else entirely? Were they all numbered differently?

2) Does anybody know the real story behind who/how these disks were numbered? The rumor I heard was that it was just interns at Q101, but couldn’t get any more detailed than this.

3) Does anyone know exactly how many copies of the disks were made? Are there any stories of multiple numbers, disks un numbered, or disks with numbers higher than 2000?




Any info at all that anyone knows would be a huge help. If you own a copy, a posted picture or detailed description of what the back looks like with the numbering would be awesome.

Thanks alot!



This is all a great idea and everything, but I started this fruitless search like 6 months ago when I was debating with Oklahoma Sexual over who had copy #1!

The point is, someone has to know how to get ahold of some of those old interns.
There must be one in particular who #"d 1-100, right?

Maybe you folks in the Chicagoland area should get over to the station and start doing some investigating/ question asking ASAP.

i have copy #0

This is all a great idea and everything, but I started this fruitless search like 6 months ago when I was debating with Oklahoma Sexual over who had copy #1!

The point is, someone has to know how to get ahold of some of those old interns.
There must be one in particular who #"d 1-100, right?

Maybe you folks in the Chicagoland area should get over to the station and start doing some investigating/ question asking ASAP.


already contacted q101. they said that interns come and go and that they have no idea who might of did the numbering.

BUMP THANKS!

Anyone hear anything lately from the infamous Dan Owalzck? I still can't believe he said he didn't realize he had just sold another # 99.! What a fucking asshole.

He's ignoring my emails again.

Nobody???

nobody cares about our situation :(

nobody cares about our situation :(


*tear*

I have copy #2007

we is 1337 yo!

we is 1337 yo!


is that what it is says exactly? or is it like 1337/2000, or #1337/2000?

We are so fucked. :(

is that what it is says exactly? or is it like 1337/2000, or #1337/2000?
Oh christ.

yessum?

Oh christ.

Hey, it's relevant, and yeah, we're fucked.

Oh christ.


relax, it was a joke.. but i suppose i should build my post count up before making annother one like that.

simply trying to jump start this dying thred.

help a n00b out..

help a n00b out..

NEVERRRRRRRR!!!!!

watermelonclip!

honkey magoo!

watermelonclip!

you rang!?

1. my copy has 2 leading 0's in front of the number, as well as a # sign. so 5 characters total, in front of the /2000. like this:

#00xx/2000 in silver marker.

2. no idea.

3. no idea.

I know I am going to get it...but I am just wondering. Are you all talking about the copies of the album that were handed out as contest prizes?

you rang!?holy fuck! I thought watermelonclip and wlatermcphilp are the same poster and that I just read waltermcphilp incorrectly all the time!

1. my copy has 2 leading 0's in front of the number, as well as a # sign. so 5 characters total, in front of the /2000. like this:

#00xx/2000 in silver marker.

2. no idea.

3. no idea.
Thanks, davin. Where/how did you get your copy?

Mine has no # and only one 0 in other words just 0928/2000.

holy fuck! I thought watermelonclip and wlatermcphilp are the same poster and that I just read waltermcphilp incorrectly all the time!
watermelonclip only joined a couple of weeks ago.

Thanks, davin. Where/how did you get your copy?

i won it from q101. my girlfriend at the time called in for me.

its #0023 by the way -- jordan, hester....oh yeah.

Hmmm... This makes it possible that our eBay copies actually came from Q101 and were part of the originally 2,000 numbered ones.

We thought that maybe we could unmask the seller as the guy who numbered some spare copies himself by checking how the numbers on the "real" Q101 copies look like and compare that with our copies. But now that your number looks exactly like ours, this is another dead end.

Basically, I have little reason to believe my copy is a fake. It looks real and it's not impossible that they made a mistake at Q101 and placed the same number on two copies.
The only problem is the eBay seller. Why did he keep lying and denying. If he just would have said "yeah, this is how I got them and I didn't tell you because I didn't want to make you suspicious" I would probably have believed him and that would have been the end of it.

hmmmmm......

didn't someone theorize once that only low numbered (i.e. single or double digit ones) had the leading 0's and # sign?

remember there was a guy who had number 616 or something like that (he misread it as a date -- 6/6/2000, remember?) and he said his copy defintely came from q101, did NOT have a # sign, and had no leading 0.

i think its simply possible that the numbering was inconsistant. end of story. and since the interns or whatever did it, then maybe they weren't very methodical, didn't give a shit, etc.

i mean, at least we all seem to have the same folding slip case with the black machina cover, right? that has to count for something.

yeah, sure. of course.

but if nobody but people who bought it off this guy on ebay had the leading # and zeros, then we would have something. and that's what we were going for. well, not anymore.

oh gotcha, you were just validating the ones from "that ebay guy".

didn't realize that was the problem -- i thought the discrepency was over multiple #0001's? :think:

in the case of this specific ebay seller, it were two #0099's to be exact.

although i believe zippy has #1 or #2 and found some other person that claims he has the same number too. dunno how that ended.

Thanks davin..

yea i am willing to believe the whole intern "i dont care" theory.

Possible one dude sat down and numberd 1-99, then went on his lunch break.. and someone else picked up and made two 99's by mistake.

The cover and the disks themselves appear to be real..

"that ebay guy" has been banned from ebay, for violating ebay's policies and selling 2 items from one auction (screwing ebay out of listing fees)

hmmmmm......

didn't someone theorize once that only low numbered (i.e. single or double digit ones) had the leading 0's and # sign?

remember there was a guy who had number 616 or something like that (he misread it as a date -- 6/6/2000, remember?) and he said his copy defintely came from q101, did NOT have a # sign, and had no leading 0.

i think its simply possible that the numbering was inconsistant. end of story. and since the interns or whatever did it, then maybe they weren't very methodical, didn't give a shit, etc.

i mean, at least we all seem to have the same folding slip case with the black machina cover, right? that has to count for something.


Yeah, that was me doing the theorizing. I founded some of the basic priciples of the "Q101 Machina 2 Theory."

Another one of my fundamental laws is:

"If a person were to fake a #'d copy, would said person have the knowledge to fake the 0's in front of the #?. A common forger would surely just write #01/1000 or 01/2000 as opposed to #0001/2000."

My copies of #0001 and #0010 are super authentic seeming. They don't look or feel like forgeries at all.



Heres a question for all of you who own a copy, real or fake.

Do your inner sleeves (the white removable ones) feel really soft and somewhat velvety? Mine definitely have this feel and I feel this might be one way to authenticate what is at least an original copy, excluding the # issue.

oh gotcha, you were just validating the ones from "that ebay guy".

didn't realize that was the problem -- i thought the discrepency was over multiple #0001's? :think:




You need to tune it better to the Q101 authentication debates. It seems you're more of a problem than a solution........ ;)

:rofl:

bah...i can't help to be bothered with such things when there's bigger fish to fry. :mrpimp:

why bother when its so much easier just to have you explain it to me? ;) :D

bah...i can't help to be bothered with such things when there's bigger fish to fry. :mrpimp:

why bother when its so much easier just to have you explain it to me? ;) :D

you'd be doin all right if I passed you some of this neon green shit I'm holdin' ....................... :smoke: :beatup: :) :cool:

Heres a question for all of you who own a copy, real or fake.

Do your inner sleeves (the white removable ones) feel really soft and somewhat velvety? Mine definitely have this feel and I feel this might be one way to authenticate what is at least an original copy, excluding the # issue.


yea mine are. same type of paper that is used on some record sleeves

yea, its like that scratch resistant stuff...

Hey davin, does the handwriting at least look like it might be from the same person? or no?

http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/7236/00992000il1.jpg

Do you see how the 3 zeros after the 2 in "2000" are shorter than the 2? It's the same way on my #10, and the 2 looks almost identical also.

maybe Davin could check his

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