View Full Version : Saddam hanging countdown clock
beef curtains 12-29-2006, 08:03 PM http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?month=12&day=30&year=2006&hour=06&min=00&sec=00&p0=27
you know you've got nothing better to do than watch it for the next 3 hours ...
Sacrifice him to our gawwwwd!
I Ate My Hamster 12-29-2006, 08:04 PM Something is going to blow up tonight.
Travis Meeks 12-29-2006, 08:06 PM I hope he escapes Jack Bauer style and retakes his Iraqi throne
rocksteady 12-29-2006, 08:08 PM <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/YkDGp5tL3us"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/YkDGp5tL3us" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>
ravenguy2000 12-29-2006, 08:18 PM no reason to not televise this
yo soy el mejor 12-29-2006, 08:22 PM shit like this bothers me. everyone had a fucking cow when those guys aired themselves killing that american man. oh no! oh no! and now everyone and their fucking mom is excited to see this guy hang. im not saying he shouldnt be but fuck you guys are sadistic fucks. im sure most of you fags watched that american die so watching some bearded foreigner will be just as cool/exciting. i dont plan on ever watching any of these videos. how can you just sit there and get entertainment out of watching someone die? that's just screwed up. i hope anyone who watches it burns in hell.
Warsaw 12-29-2006, 08:23 PM If they kill you on their TV, you're a martyr and a lamb of god.
http://www.davetrowbridge.com/images/martyr.jpg
"I hope to be a Martyr...I hope when I get 14 or 15 to explode myself."
Travis Meeks 12-29-2006, 08:24 PM One of the few good things about modern times: If you die horribly on television, you will not have died in vain. You will have entertained us.
-Vonnegut
Rarely 12-29-2006, 08:25 PM I don't think he should be executed but I guess hanging would be a pretty sweet way to go. They should tape it if they are going to kill him and they should use Iron Maiden's Hallowed Be Thy Name as the theme song
yo soy el mejor 12-29-2006, 08:25 PM FUCK YOU, VONNEGUT. I CANT BELIEVE I EVER READ ANY OF YOUR DUMB BOOKS
Travis Meeks 12-29-2006, 08:26 PM I can't believe mexicans can read
Travis Meeks 12-29-2006, 08:27 PM sorry, that wasn't nice, but you dissed my nigga and I already told you what happens to niggaz when it rains, they get wet.
ravenguy2000 12-29-2006, 08:27 PM shit like this bothers me. everyone had a fucking cow when those guys aired themselves killing that american man. oh no! oh no! and now everyone and their fucking mom is excited to see this guy hang. im not saying he shouldnt be but fuck you guys are sadistic fucks. im sure most of you fags watched that american die so watching some bearded foreigner will be just as cool/exciting. i dont plan on ever watching any of these videos. how can you just sit there and get entertainment out of watching someone die? that's just screwed up. i hope anyone who watches it burns in hell.
in all fairness i think all tax-payer funded executions should be televised
Rarely 12-29-2006, 08:27 PM it's vonnegut....
Travis Meeks 12-29-2006, 08:28 PM I bet rarely has the answer to this whole Iraq mess but we can't hear his message
damnit!
yo soy el mejor 12-29-2006, 08:29 PM JAILBIRD WAS ACTUALLY NOT THAT BAD. IT PASSED THE TIME
BumbleBeeMouth 12-29-2006, 08:32 PM http://www.davetrowbridge.com/images/martyr.jpg
he looks very sweet, dont you think?
East Rocket 12-29-2006, 08:41 PM http://www.davetrowbridge.com/images/martyr.jpg
he looks very sweet, dont you think?The Islamic terrorist version of a Christmas Story.
"But mom I don't want to wear it!"
"Mohammed you go upstairs and put the suicide bomber vest on right now! Your aunt Fatima worked hard making it for you!
"Aw mom!"
*marches upstairs*
Travis Meeks 12-29-2006, 08:49 PM And Your collection of tongues,
you keep framed in your parlour, with your bibles and guns,
the fetus of Christ with a fistful of scars.
And your vision is clear,
while you blind your own kind in a curtain of fear,
your words twisted skywards distracted by stars.
Karl Connor 12-29-2006, 08:50 PM I hope he escapes Jack Bauer style and retakes his Iraqi throne
same here.
never thought i'd be an advocate of saddam. we're living in strange times
Karl Connor 12-29-2006, 08:55 PM shit like this bothers me. everyone had a fucking cow when those guys aired themselves killing that american man. oh no! oh no! and now everyone and their fucking mom is excited to see this guy hang. im not saying he shouldnt be but fuck you guys are sadistic fucks. im sure most of you fags watched that american die so watching some bearded foreigner will be just as cool/exciting. i dont plan on ever watching any of these videos. how can you just sit there and get entertainment out of watching someone die? that's just screwed up. i hope anyone who watches it burns in hell.
i dont think that american man was tried through an criminal court system and sentenced to execution
Karl Connor 12-29-2006, 08:58 PM <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/YkDGp5tL3us"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/YkDGp5tL3us" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>
lol
duovamp 12-29-2006, 08:59 PM http://www.davetrowbridge.com/images/martyr.jpg
I totally know what I want to be for Halloween.
Karl Connor 12-29-2006, 09:01 PM didnt some guy dress as osama for halloween and get arrested.
my country is sad this century
Karl Connor 12-29-2006, 09:02 PM i think his car broke down and he was lingering by the highway. pretty funny if you think about it
duovamp 12-29-2006, 09:06 PM http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/2724/untitled1copysk6.jpg
duovamp 12-29-2006, 09:07 PM didnt some guy dress as osama for halloween and get arrested.
my country is sad this century
One of my teachers dressed up as Osama for Halloween and some bitch girl bitched and bitched until he was forced to not attend work yet still be paid for like 3 days. What a bitch. I wish I remembered what that bitch's name happened to be so I could say "____ is a bitch."
Rockin' Cherub 12-29-2006, 09:13 PM this is sad and dumb
Ol' Couch Ass 12-29-2006, 09:17 PM They should have synced this up with New Years Eve on the East Coast of the US. It would have been great to see champagne toasts on one side of the screen and news of Sadam's execution on the other.
Andy / 12-29-2006, 09:18 PM http://www.davetrowbridge.com/images/martyr.jpg
he looks very sweet, dont you think?
That "kid" has ginormous fucking hands.
Warsaw 12-29-2006, 09:24 PM That "kid" has ginormous fucking hands.
The better to build bombs with.
Warsaw 12-29-2006, 09:26 PM "But mom I don't want to wear it."
CAPTION: Om Mohammed helps her twelve-year-old son Abu Ali with a toy suicide bomber belt he fashioned on his own. "I hope to be a Martyr...I hope when I get 14 or 15 to explode myself." His mother is proud of her son: "God gave him to me to protect and defend our homeland." The family is seen in their Gaza City home, May 15, 2002.
My dad is ripping up a huge politics rant right about now. I hate those.
BumbleBeeMouth 12-29-2006, 10:28 PM 32 minutes to go, is this an official time?
Ol' Couch Ass 12-29-2006, 10:30 PM I can hardly wait!
yo soy el mejor 12-29-2006, 10:45 PM i dont think that american man was tried through an criminal court system and sentenced to execution
yeah but even if they had tried him as a criminal in their crazy country we still would have had a problem with it. america thinks it's so special. everyone is fucking sick. death is sad.
DeviousJ 12-29-2006, 10:52 PM This is pretty stupid, there are still two (much bigger) trials still ongoing
JokeyLoki 12-29-2006, 11:11 PM CNN is reporting that a few Iraqi news stations are saying it happened at 6am (10pm Eastern)
TuralyonW3 12-29-2006, 11:12 PM they just reported he's dead. well, mission accomplished, lets bring the boys home!! right?
Katy Lied 12-29-2006, 11:16 PM is this gonna be live on the internet? if it didn't happen yet
Andrew_Pakula 12-29-2006, 11:16 PM This is pretty stupid, there are still two (much bigger) trials still ongoing
The U.S. Gov./CIA don't want too many details and secrets coming out in public about that period where they supported Saddam. Killing him early is a good way to keep it all quiet still.
Travis Meeks 12-29-2006, 11:16 PM HAIL THE CHIEF
waltermcphilp 12-29-2006, 11:18 PM hail to the king baby
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2633/dukenukem0001vd7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
rocksteady 12-29-2006, 11:22 PM BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein has been executed, according to two Arabic language media outlets.
Hussein was hanged before dawn on Saturday in Iraq, at about 6 a.m. (10 p.m. Friday ET), the U.S.-backed Al-Hurra television reported.
<b>CNN's Aneesh Raman, Arwa Damon, Ryan Chilcote, Sam Dagher, Jomana Karadsheh and Ed Henry contributed to this report.</b>
Zerospaced 12-29-2006, 11:22 PM It's weird knowing that Saddam was hung 20 minutes ago. My teenage years in the 90's were full of memories of him on the news and Desert Storm and whatnot, thinking of him as some kind of super villian. He seemed so crazy and lovable in a Lex Luthor'ish kind of way. I think i'm going to go watch Hot Shots: Part Deux now...
Zerospaced 12-29-2006, 11:24 PM http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/WORLD/meast/12/29/hussein/newT1.obit.saddam.hussein.jpg
wow they don't waste any time
sppunk 12-29-2006, 11:31 PM They have that graphic ready for countless people. I designed an entire section for Bill Clinton's death already, twice.
Zerospaced 12-29-2006, 11:32 PM I remember a couple years ago someone hacked into the obits folder and posted pics of obituaries for living people like Dick Cheney, etc...
TheMilstead 12-29-2006, 11:34 PM hail to the king baby
Winner.
yo soy el mejor 12-29-2006, 11:34 PM IM GOING TO BOMB ALL YOUR HOUSES
Zerospaced 12-29-2006, 11:38 PM IM GOING TO BOMB ALL YOUR HOUSES
They don't allow you to carry bombs over the border
Mayfuck 12-29-2006, 11:38 PM saddam hussein was execute for carrying out the murder of hundreds of his own people. justice was done today and i expect bush to meet the same fate for carrying out the murder of thousands of iraqi people. thats how it works right?
Corganist 12-29-2006, 11:41 PM This is pretty stupid, there are still two (much bigger) trials still ongoing
Considering the way Saddam pretty much managed to hijack this first trial and stir up shit at any opportunity, what possible good would come in keeping him alive for future ones? The trials can go on without him, and will probably be all the more effective for it.
Zerospaced 12-29-2006, 11:41 PM good luck with that.
did you guys notice how he was tried and executed 2 weeks later? no sitting on death row for 20 years. they don't mess around in the middle east
sppunk 12-29-2006, 11:42 PM The trials can go on without him, and will probably be all the more effective for it.
No, they are immediately thrown out of court upon his death.
Zerospaced 12-29-2006, 11:45 PM Considering the way Saddam pretty much managed to hijack this first trial and stir up shit at any opportunity, what possible good would come in keeping him alive for future ones? The trials can go on without him, and will probably be all the more effective for it.
that would be pointless and a huge waste of money to try him for anything now that he's already been executed. It would be like them trying Tim McVeigh today for something he did 6 years ago
aomb1979 12-30-2006, 12:00 AM :hanging:
Corganist 12-30-2006, 12:07 AM that would be pointless and a huge waste of money to try him for anything now that he's already been executed. It would be like them trying Tim McVeigh today for something he did 6 years ago
Its just as pointless and wastes just as much money to put the guy through multiple trials after you've got a conviction and death sentence on the first set of charges. It is important for there to be some official light shed on Saddam's regime though the additional trials, but I think that can be done without Saddam being there to see and/or interrupt them. He wasn't the only defendant in these trials, you know.
Karl Connor 12-30-2006, 12:22 AM saddam hussein was execute for carrying out the murder of hundreds of his own people. justice was done today and i expect bush to meet the same fate for carrying out the murder of thousands of iraqi people. thats how it works right?
that's exactly how it works
Karl Connor 12-30-2006, 12:24 AM The U.S. Gov./CIA don't want too many details and secrets coming out in public about that period where they supported Saddam. Killing him early is a good way to keep it all quiet still.
remember it wasnt the U.S. that sentenced saddam to death; it was the iraqi people
Karl Connor 12-30-2006, 12:25 AM unless you want to argue that the iraqi tribunal was a proxy of the U.S. which is a valid argument i guess. but sort of misses the point
boynameddarcy 12-30-2006, 12:44 AM I thought Slaughter-House Five was a good book...
smashingjj 12-30-2006, 12:46 AM how is this even a punishment
FUCK this shit
Effloresce 12-30-2006, 12:47 AM http://i16.tinypic.com/2drc8b4.jpg
Only Fox :rofl:
Also, gotta love O'Reilly's talking point. NO SHIT.
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8273/wellhungls4.jpg
Effloresce 12-30-2006, 12:55 AM http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d7/SaddamandRana.jpg.jpg
Saddam's daughter is hot.
Karl Connor 12-30-2006, 01:00 AM i would fuck the shit out of ms. hussein there
smashingjj 12-30-2006, 01:00 AM he may have killed shite men, they were still men.
Ol' Couch Ass 12-30-2006, 01:00 AM Do you think it would be socially acceptable to walk down the street in downtown Baghdad asking everyone "how's it hanging?" while wryly pretending to hang yourself with an invisible noose?
Karl Connor 12-30-2006, 01:02 AM yea that would be acceptable
Karl Connor 12-30-2006, 01:02 AM nah in all seriousness, saddam lost his relevance with the iraqi people - sunni or shiite - years ago.
this is kind of a footnote in history because things in iraq are so fucking bad
smashingjj 12-30-2006, 01:04 AM as a child, i used to think that the word 'sadistic' and 'sadism' were derived from Saddam's name.
post your childhood memories of Saddam.
Karl Connor 12-30-2006, 01:06 AM yeah i thought the guy was a monster. i remember mailing letters to the troops of the gulf war in 2nd grade. i wrote a letter that went something along the lines of: "dear soldier, i hope you dont die"
i've got 2 iraqi dinars with saddams face plastered upon them.
Travis Meeks 12-30-2006, 01:12 AM yeah i thought the guy was a monster. i remember mailing letters to the troops of the gulf war in 2nd grade. i wrote a letter that went something along the lines of: "dear soldier, i hope you dont die"
did he?
Karl Connor 12-30-2006, 01:15 AM i wouldnt think so! only like one dude died in the gulf war
Ol' Couch Ass 12-30-2006, 01:15 AM yeah i thought the guy was a monster. i remember mailing letters to the troops of the gulf war in 2nd grade. i wrote a letter that went something along the lines of: "dear soldier, i hope you dont die"
That is a pretty nice sentiment.
Travis Meeks 12-30-2006, 01:19 AM i wouldnt think so! only like one dude died in the gulf war
well then I consider you a hero. Congrats!!!!!!
ravenguy2000 12-30-2006, 01:20 AM Back in middle school I would just randomly shout out suhDAMN hussein. like that's how I would make it sound, like I was saying DAMN. Yup.
Ol' Couch Ass 12-30-2006, 01:20 AM Hear hear! :cheers:
Katy Lied 12-30-2006, 01:22 AM remember that Simpsons episode when Krusty was a comedian during the gulf war? "Saddam Hussein? They should call him SoDamn Insane!"
Andrew_Pakula 12-30-2006, 01:23 AM http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/WORLD/meast/12/29/hussein/newT1.obit.saddam.hussein.jpg
wow they don't waste any time
CNN was exposed a few years ago of having a number of these things already made for the web and ready to go for people who they thought were close to death, someone found them hidden on their website.
smashingjj 12-30-2006, 01:23 AM this is making me nostalgic. i'll miss that naughty fucker. a lot :(
Ol' Couch Ass 12-30-2006, 01:25 AM James Brown, Gerald Ford and Saddam..... the trio of death has been completed.
smashingjj 12-30-2006, 01:26 AM out of those three, what has been your favourite death?
Travis Meeks 12-30-2006, 01:26 AM they should have faked his death and then had him reappear in 3 days....boy that would really spice up this war
Andrew_Pakula 12-30-2006, 01:26 AM remember it wasnt the U.S. that sentenced saddam to death; it was the iraqi people
Show Trial, Puppet Court
Before there even was a trial there was only one possible verdict.
Katy Lied 12-30-2006, 01:27 AM they should have just let him die in prison and then years after he was buried, exhume the corpse and hang it, Oliver Cromwell style
Ol' Couch Ass 12-30-2006, 01:31 AM out of those three, what has been your favourite death?
I think James Brown. It allowed for various amature jokester aquaintances of mine to make the cringe worthy "I feel bad!" wisecrack.
Okay, guys, my first one was rushed, and not so great, but allow me to present.
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/516/hangemhighsi2.jpg
Rarely 12-30-2006, 01:33 AM http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d7/SaddamandRana.jpg.jpg
Saddam's daughter is hot.
saw that earlier and i thought she might be hot as well
but shes pretty old and that photo could be misleading
benjamin619 12-30-2006, 01:53 AM Iraq's former leader Saddam Hussein has been executed by hanging for crimes against humanity at an unspecified location in Baghdad.
:embarass:
Katy Lied 12-30-2006, 01:54 AM They shouldn't have killed him. He was fun to have around.
Ol' Couch Ass 12-30-2006, 01:55 AM Kinda like the crazy uncle that you love to hate.
Ol' Couch Ass 12-30-2006, 01:57 AM Hey aunt ak-shaki, how is uncle Saddam doing?
"Well he got drunk again and killed about a thousand Kurds with poison gas."
Oh that uncle Saddam, he is soo crazy.
http://arabic.cnn.com/2004/middle_east/1/10/saddam.information_POW/story.saddam.arrest.jpg~1071584700310903900.jpg
After this I predict that 2007 is gonna be a fucked up year for the U.S. troups in Iraq.
How could they be so damn ignorant and actually kill him? Fight fire with fire?
Karl Connor 12-30-2006, 04:58 AM it doesnt really matter at this point
Tchocky 12-30-2006, 07:33 AM Good riddance.
Allah Akbar, bitches.
Eric Blair 12-30-2006, 07:37 AM It fills me with confidence to know that most people see court as a place for revenge.
wally 12-30-2006, 09:59 AM And you hide the dead while my friends head to die in your name.
Travis Meeks 12-30-2006, 10:06 AM And you accepted as fact:
Behold a white horse, with you on it's back,
a bow in your hand, a crown through your hair.
And the oceans shall rise
and slap on the shores of mountainsides.
Great waves of progress shall wet the air.
wally 12-30-2006, 10:09 AM And This playground is yours
spoke God when you met, behind closed doors.
Gesture your hand and the pawns shall subside
And though you play alone,
you never get lonely, you never get bored.
Who needs a friend when God's on your side?
Travis Meeks 12-30-2006, 10:12 AM People on this board may say what they will about Two Gallants but these are some mighty fine lyrics
wally 12-30-2006, 10:12 AM indeed
dare I say, crucial
Effloresce 12-30-2006, 10:15 AM http://img6.picsplace.to/img6/24/1_848.jpg
http://img6.picsplace.to/img6/24/1__1__000.jpg
http://img6.picsplace.to/img6/24/1__2_.jpg
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wally 12-30-2006, 10:16 AM http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/WORLD/meast/12/30/hussein/newt1.saddam.03.gi.jpg
Nimrod's Son 12-30-2006, 10:24 AM Show Trial, Puppet Court
Before there even was a trial there was only one possible verdict.
I'm ok with any trial that results in the death of someone who ordered the gasing of his own civillians
The Pashing Smumpkin 12-30-2006, 10:30 AM I'm gonna miss the son-uv-a-bitch...
Who are we gonna blame the worlds problems on now? :(
Travis Meeks 12-30-2006, 10:35 AM Iran bro
The Pashing Smumpkin 12-30-2006, 11:25 AM Iran bro
But we need a single face to crucify. You know, scapegoating and the like?
smashingjj 12-30-2006, 11:40 AM But we need a single face to crucify. You know, scapegoating and the like?
ok
we'll use the pashing smumpkin
ravenguy2000 12-30-2006, 12:25 PM what do you guys think they did with the human meat grinders
smashingjj 12-30-2006, 01:10 PM You just don't know what you've got 'till it's gone.
you feelin me my man. those assholes! just hanging the poor guy. so inconsiderate!
killer_tomato 12-30-2006, 01:32 PM so is it too late to scribble my signature under this valiant internet petition (http://www.petitiononline.com/freeiraq/petition.html)?
The Pashing Smumpkin 12-30-2006, 06:27 PM ok
we'll use the pashing smumpkin
:eek: Why do you hate me? In fact, why do most of you fuckers hate me?!!?!
smashingjj 12-30-2006, 10:43 PM :eek: Why do you hate me? In fact, why do most of you fuckers hate me?!!?!
did i say i hate you? calm down dude. i fucking hate people who react like that
strange_one 01-01-2007, 12:41 AM <font color=33FFFF> full (non-fake) mobile phone footage. pretty shitty quality but better than you'd expect from a mobile. sorry if someone already posted it
http://www.liveleak.com/saddam5.html
</font>
flyinggypsie 01-02-2007, 05:29 AM Joking or otherwise, some of you people are pretty disgraceful.
The people dancing in the streets as a result of a man being killed are merely savages. It is a reaction you might expect in lord of the flies, where the application of justice does not apply and people are convicted for the entertainment of others.
duovamp 01-02-2007, 05:31 AM Aaaaahhhh shaddup.
flyinggypsie 01-02-2007, 05:35 AM Show Trial, Puppet Court
Before there even was a trial there was only one possible verdict.
I agree with this comment. The evidence that was used to convict Hussein were documents in which the court could not ascribe authorship of. I'm frightened by what the general public regards as "justice"
duovamp 01-02-2007, 05:37 AM I agree with this comment. The evidence that was used to convict Hussein were documents in which the court could not ascribe authorship of.
You've failed on every level. First of all you tried to use "which" to avoid a preposition at the end of a sentence, but still you tacked on "of," somehow. And don't reference Lord of the Flies. It's very ...fourth grade.
flyinggypsie 01-02-2007, 05:39 AM You've failed on every level. First of all you tried to use "which" to avoid a preposition at the end of a sentence, but still you tacked on "of," somehow. And don't reference Lord of the Flies. It's very ...fourth grade.
Consider revising.
flyinggypsie 01-02-2007, 05:48 AM Duotramp,
Lord of the Flies is a very apt comparison since even basic lessons need to be reiterated for simple folk like you, who are not obtaining law degrees. When someone diverts an argument and makes it about grammar, it's usually because they have no foundation on which they can make a relevant rebuttal.
Your King,
Foxtrot
duovamp 01-02-2007, 06:30 AM Duotramp,
Lord of the Flies is a very apt comparison since even basic lessons need to be reiterated for simple folk like you, who are not obtaining law degrees.
Actually, you're wrong there.
I was never arguing with anybody, so don't involve me. I'm just saying you're horrible at arguing because you practically use a children's book as a standpoint for an argument and your misuse of the English language is laughable. I'm not here to argue, just point out mistakes you've made for others to enjoy.
Edit: Duotramp?
Mablak 01-02-2007, 07:18 AM I just saw a Twilight Zone episode where a guy kills a kkk member or something and is sentenced to be hanged. And at the same time the town he's in is surrounded by inexplicable darkness, sunlight somehow disappears. After the dude is hanged, the black preacher explains that hate has enveloped everyone and all the townsfolk are damned, and everything gets darker still.
I didn't catch the last minute or two but I'm sure everything worked out fine. Moral is Saddam's death should be celebrated in a primal and sadistic fashion.
del
Actually I hate that book. Even though it has a good lesson to teach, its a simple lesson and intellectuals can easily argue against its merit. In this way intellectuals are screwing everyone over.
JokeyLoki 01-02-2007, 10:38 AM Joking or otherwise, some of you people are pretty disgraceful.
The people dancing in the streets as a result of a man being killed are merely savages. It is a reaction you might expect in lord of the flies, where the application of justice does not apply and people are convicted for the entertainment of others.
Yeah, except for that whole trial thing and the fact that he killed an assload of his own people...
I agree that it sucks that people are so happy about it, but to use the comparison you just made is stupid.
Rarely 01-02-2007, 12:07 PM Joking or otherwise, some of you people are pretty disgraceful.
The people dancing in the streets as a result of a man being killed are merely savages. It is a reaction you might expect in lord of the flies, where the application of justice does not apply and people are convicted for the entertainment of others.
it's a forum you fucking pussy
nothing should be taken seriously
flyinggypsie 01-02-2007, 05:30 PM Yeah, except for that whole trial thing and the fact that he killed an assload of his own people...
I agree that it sucks that people are so happy about it, but to use the comparison you just made is stupid.
If you can tell me who were killed, how they killed and how Saddam was connected to the murders, I will be satisfied. Otherwise you do not have the authority to state this claim as a matter of fact. The fact that the American executive is exempt from its own war crime and the rule of law suggests anything but justice. While Tocqueville contended that we have to accept some things as true based on conventional wisdom out of necessity, this is an example where faulty, illogical reasoning from the very top can permeate through standard beliefs, into a "hang 'em from the highest tree" conception of justice people hold in their perverted little minds.
The lord of the rings comparison is apt because:
1) Guilt is determined based on powerlessness. You are exempt from the law if you hold power (as mentioned above)
2) Punishment is brutal and used for the entertainment of others
To dismiss this as childish or stupid is fallacious and moot if the central purpose of the book has not been grasped. Ironically, the children in the story did not grasp the concept of barbarism. It's interesting how universal truths can be shrugged off as "like totally soooo grade 4," while people continue to make the same idiotic mistakes.
Your response to that sir...
duovamp 01-02-2007, 06:13 PM I never said you can't use Lord of the Flies because it doesn't apply. You're terribly poor at understanding that. I merely believe that you shouldn't use such a lowly book. It's like making a reference to Home Alone 2. Sure, it may apply quite well, but there must be a better option.
BumbleBeeMouth 01-02-2007, 06:27 PM Guilt is determined based on powerlessness.. Is this to mean that when one is powerless there can be no guilt since there was no option, or that those in power have no guilt because they are above the law? Didnt Joseph Katz have something to say about all this?
Nimrod's Son 01-02-2007, 06:44 PM After this I predict that 2007 is gonna be a fucked up year for the U.S. troups in Iraq.
How could they be so damn ignorant and actually kill him? Fight fire with fire?
the US didn't kill him you know
Rockin' Cherub 01-02-2007, 06:51 PM i think arguing about whether the verdict was just or not is absolutely irrelevant as purposely killing a person is always unjust.
and it doesn't matter who did it either.
flyinggypsie 01-02-2007, 06:55 PM I never said you can't use Lord of the Flies because it doesn't apply. You're terribly poor at understanding that. I merely believe that you shouldn't use such a lowly book. It's like making a reference to Home Alone 2. Sure, it may apply quite well, but there must be a better option.
I'm "terribly poor" at understanding that? As opposed to wonderfully poor? I think ought to tone down your rhetoric and speak rationally for a moment.
I could make obscure John Locke or Heart of Darkness references but the purpose in convincing people is to speak with clarity and to be understood. You learn this as you get older.
Your "Home Alone 2" comparison is weak for obvious reasons, since the movie has no philosophical value nor is it a literary classic that everyone has read. Lord of the Flies is a staple and exemplifies a simple salient, empirical truth. To dismiss the book as lowly would be like regarding the fraction 1/2 as "lowly," when it can be expressed as 1056/2112. It is a simple lesson, which holds succinctly true.
duovamp 01-02-2007, 07:05 PM Dare I say you are approaching infinity misunderstandings rapidly? Your ability to read is either dreadful or you purposely misinterpret things so you can try to scramble together an argument. I'll not even continue this because it's obvious everything I've said has only proven correct again and again through your hypocrisy and inability to see parallels.
duovamp 01-02-2007, 07:20 PM I could make obscure John Locke or Heart of Darkness references but the purpose in convincing people is to speak with clarity and to be understood. You learn this as you get older.
You're how old? And you argue with people on the internet? Don't be mad that I called your reference point lowly. Even if you waived an English degree in my face you'd still be a joke. And you still ended a sentence with a preposition, something you've not justified but only remarked about as if to say that one's ability to use a language has nothing to do with argument.
Hey, while you're at it, try telling people how long you've been here some more, and drop your old name. It really makes them respect you so much more.
flyinggypsie 01-02-2007, 07:21 PM Dare I say you are approaching infinity misunderstandings rapidly? Your ability to read is either dreadful or you purposely misinterpret things so you can try to scramble together an argument. I'll not even continue this because it's obvious everything I've said has only proven correct again and again through your hypocrisy and inability to see parallels.
I like how you accuse me of being hypocritical and that I've proven you correct (again and again) as vindicated merely by the fact that you say so. Despite having demonstrated that your comparison of lord of the flies as having the same merits as home alone two is ridiculous, you attempt to justify your indefensible parallel as a fault of my inability to see parallels; as though there's some deep, nebulous similarity which I've failed to see.
I will accept admission of defeat.
duovamp 01-02-2007, 07:22 PM OH MAN! JUST LIKE IN LORD OF TEH FLYZ!!!!
flyinggypsie 01-02-2007, 07:27 PM You're how old?
OH MAN! JUST LIKE IN LORD OF TEH FLYZ!!!!
...and...
I'll not even continue this because it's obvious everything I've said has only proven correct again and again through your hypocrisy.
duovamp 01-02-2007, 07:59 PM Another misunderstanding? How pathetic. "I'll not continue this" refers to that post and how it was quickly going in the direction of how stupid you are. That's why I started a new one. I like how you don't understand anything. It's cute in a sad way.
LIKE IN TEH LORDZ OF TEH FLYZSZ! LOLOLOL!
ravenguy2000 01-02-2007, 08:08 PM how about some catcher in the rye next
or some vonnegut
flyinggypsie 01-02-2007, 08:10 PM Another misunderstanding? How pathetic. "I'll not continue this" refers to that post and how it was quickly going in the direction of how stupid you are. That's why I started a new one. I like how you don't understand anything. It's cute in a sad way.
LIKE IN TEH LORDZ OF TEH FLYZSZ! LOLOLOL!
You ask me how old I am: a rhetorical question insinuating that I'm immature and then you type, "TEH LORDZ OF TEH FLYZSZ! LOLOLOL" all while claiming that I'm a hypocrite. If you spoke with more care and it wouldn't come back to bite you in the ass. Are we clear on that? Moving on to the subject at hand: Saddam Hussein.
I think Rockin' Cherub hit on a valid point; A human being was killed unjustly. It's interesting that the American executive would change Iraq's regime while "respecting" its regressive methods of implementing "justice."
Aside from being draconian, sentencing someone to death closes the investigations of people who were killed by other people than Saddam if the assumption is made that Saddam was responsible.
duovamp 01-02-2007, 08:33 PM OMFG DUDE REMEMBER TAHT TIEM IN LORD OF TEH FLYZ! IT'S JUST LIKE TAHT! LMAO!
duovamp 01-02-2007, 08:34 PM how about some catcher in the rye next
or some vonnegut
Exactly. Maybe even a Catch-22 toss-in, for kicks.
bardy 01-02-2007, 08:45 PM hey guys someone is sending me the hanging video, do any of you want this when Im done
flyinggypsie 01-02-2007, 08:46 PM Exactly. Maybe even a Catch-22 toss-in, for kicks.
I'm not here to babysit you. If you want to keep your comments relevant then stay. If not, get out. I suggest you leave the political/philosophical questions to your uncle foxtrot.
Again,
I think Rockin' Cherub hit on a valid point; A human being was killed unjustly. It's interesting that the American executive would change Iraq's regime while "respecting" its regressive methods of implementing "justice."
Aside from being draconian, sentencing someone to death closes the investigations of people who were killed by other people than Saddam if the assumption is made that Saddam was responsible.
duovamp 01-02-2007, 08:57 PM Dude, foxtrot, do you REMEMBR THAT TIME IN HOME ALOEN 2 WEN KEVIN GETS TEH BADGUISE! LOLWTF!
duovamp 01-02-2007, 08:58 PM Wait wait wait, I've got this one. The next reference will be from Nietzsche. I totally called it.
flyinggypsie 01-02-2007, 09:01 PM If you're calling me the ubermensche...
bardy 01-02-2007, 09:08 PM they should have put a head thing on him, I was a bit shocked when he fell bcause I was expecting them to put the head cover on him first
duovamp 01-02-2007, 09:11 PM they should have put a head thing on him, I was a bit shocked when he fell bcause I was expecting them to put the head cover on him first
He refused it.
Rarely 01-02-2007, 09:28 PM i dont even know where the official video is
flyinggypsie 01-02-2007, 10:02 PM They should have not executed him.
duovamp 01-02-2007, 10:07 PM They should have not executed him.
Do you seriously think so?
flyinggypsie 01-02-2007, 11:01 PM Do you seriously think so?
I've been saying that all along, hence my literary illustration.
duovamp 01-02-2007, 11:03 PM I've been saying that all along, hence my literary illustration.
I didn't even read the reference. It very well may have been a good one, but it's just a matter of using Lord of the Flies.
I agree with you that they should not have killed Saddam, but perhaps for different reasons.
IT'S DRACONIAN!!! JUST LYKE LORD OF TEH FLYESS!!
JokeyLoki 01-03-2007, 12:00 AM This thread is full of stupid.
flyinggypsie 01-03-2007, 12:34 AM This thread is full of stupid.
Agreed. The death of the sensible man is marked by talking heads of extremity and irrationality.
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