View Full Version : Did we cover Kramer's tirade over the weekend


gpub
11-20-2006, 01:10 PM
great job buddy (http://us.video.aol.com/video.index.adp?mode=1&pmmsid=1772645)


:erm:

Orenthal James
11-20-2006, 01:18 PM
call em like i see em

alisonmonster
11-20-2006, 01:19 PM
whoa thats fucked up

Orenthal James
11-20-2006, 01:25 PM
that'll teach them to interrupt his show

Andy /
11-20-2006, 01:26 PM
Holy fuck.

Orenthal James
11-20-2006, 01:30 PM
i didnt get the fork part

gpub
11-20-2006, 01:31 PM
I thought it was just going to be like one or two "N" bombs in some sort of sketch. Boy was I wrong

duovamp
11-20-2006, 01:37 PM
Sure, they can say anything they want to when he's on a stage, but when he says something back it's "uncalled for."

That heckler was being a complete asshole during his routine, and when he got called a dirty word he started crying. What a complete idiot.

MusicMan4
11-20-2006, 01:38 PM
duvpam hates black epople

Orenthal James
11-20-2006, 01:43 PM
damn sean you are on fire this week

alisonmonster
11-20-2006, 01:43 PM
i like how the guy yells at richards for being a washup which as we all know is much much worse than being called a racist.

Orenthal James
11-20-2006, 01:44 PM
is the fork thing just supposed to be funny

gpub
11-20-2006, 01:49 PM
This video really has a lot of elements to it and should be analyzed by experts

duovamp
11-20-2006, 01:49 PM
duvpam hates black epople

I'm not racist at all. This situation shows some guy acting like an ass by yelling things. So he got somebody mad and they yelled something back. When this happened he was outraged. That has to be the most moronic thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

Aeroplane
11-20-2006, 01:50 PM
meh

MusicMan4
11-20-2006, 01:50 PM
he didnt have to use slurs and say they shoudl be lynched hes just a racist and you proabbyla re to buy dfending him
youre kind of dsitrubing me

MusicMan4
11-20-2006, 01:51 PM
shut the fuck up airplane

duovamp
11-20-2006, 01:53 PM
If they were gay and he called them faggots nobody would care. If they were white and he were black and he called them crackers, what would happen? Nothing. They were acting like assholes to begin with by saying things to him. Why were they doing this? To annoy him? To make him say something obnoxious?

He shouldn't have said what he did, but they should not have reacted how they did to what he said. It's never okay to use the n-word, but what bothers me the most is that they were actually offended. They were yelling things at him, what the hell were they expecting, some sort of double standard where he isn't allowed to respond to hecklers?

MusicMan4
11-20-2006, 01:58 PM
wave that confederatye flag proud buddy

Aeroplane
11-20-2006, 02:05 PM
i stand by what i said. meh.

duovamp
11-20-2006, 02:09 PM
"That was uncalled for you motherfucking cracker-ass motherfucker."

JokeyLoki
11-20-2006, 02:21 PM
Whoah, wtf

gpub
11-20-2006, 02:23 PM
"That was uncalled for you motherfucking cracker-ass motherfucker."

That was the pot calling the kettle black now wasn't it... HJAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHA

Mayfuck
11-20-2006, 02:24 PM
oh wow, duovamp is an idiot. who knew.

Toast
11-20-2006, 03:32 PM
who cares, people are so sensitive

wally
11-20-2006, 03:44 PM
well that was a bit much

KrazeeStacee
11-20-2006, 03:48 PM
If they were gay and he called them faggots nobody would care.
That's not true - that's a hate crime.

KrazeeStacee
11-20-2006, 03:50 PM
Don't say that.

Toast
11-20-2006, 03:53 PM
nevermind

HorseflyKing
11-20-2006, 04:25 PM
i didnt get the fork part
Americans used to eat black people.

Katy Lied
11-20-2006, 05:30 PM
i don't think i can ever watch seinfeld the same way again

Ol' Couch Ass
11-20-2006, 05:33 PM
The difference between Kramer and Mel Gibson is that the 10 people who rule the world are Jewish and not black. Kramer will have no problems with the power brokers who rule Hollywood. His dreams for recording a rap record, however, are screwed.

FearToTread
11-20-2006, 06:23 PM
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gpub
11-20-2006, 06:30 PM
Now that was funny

Andy /
11-20-2006, 07:10 PM
God I love that movie.

ZINC OXIDE AND YOU!

wHATcOLOR
11-20-2006, 08:03 PM
i stand by what i said. meh.


shut up

Elvis The Fat Years
11-20-2006, 08:06 PM
i wonder if those guys were sent from the invasion board.

wpc33
11-20-2006, 11:16 PM
Michael Richards is a moron
Who could be so stupid to tirade on stage like that?
I care if he's racist about as much as I care if he's gay or not. Those aren't the same things, but they're none of my business. I didn't need to hear that crap yelled by "Kramer"

Katy Lied
11-20-2006, 11:19 PM
What they didn't show on the tape was the niggers actually yelling shit at him before the video starts rolling. They had been heckling him for quite sometime and he finally snapped. The whole video is an injustice to Michael Richards.

Nimrod's Son
11-20-2006, 11:26 PM
who cares, people are so sensitive
<DEEDEE>

alisonmonster
11-20-2006, 11:30 PM
i think its more the shock of hearing it coming out of 'Kramer' than anything. Like hearing Mr Rogers swear or somthing.

The Jesus
11-20-2006, 11:54 PM
http://www.srmason-sj.org/council/journal/sep00/marsellos1.jpg

http://www.srmason-sj.org/council/journal/sep00/marsellos.html

Ever
11-21-2006, 01:02 AM
I read about both this and the O.J thing in the train newspaper. See over here you have a specific newspaper for trains that you usually find on train seats and read cause you have not much else to do.

Netphorian Gadabout
11-21-2006, 01:06 AM
Just watched his apology on Letterman, and he really doesn't help his cause when he keeps refering to the "Afro Americans".

Mexicola
11-21-2006, 01:07 AM
read about both this and the O.J thing in the train newspaper. See over here you have a specific newspaper for trains that you usually find on train seats and read cause you have not much else to do.

MX?

Andy /
11-21-2006, 01:13 AM
i think its more the shock of hearing it coming out of 'Kramer' than anything. Like hearing Mr Rogers swear or somthing.


I saw this old clip of Mr. Rogers (so old it was in black & white) talking about his philosophies on working with children, and for whatever bizarre reason he makes an analogy or something involving him saying "penis".

Hearing Mr. Rogers say penis was one of the most 'wtf???' moments I've ever experienced.

Ever
11-21-2006, 01:17 AM
MX?Yup that's the one. I was it reading over the shoulder of some bald european dude.

alisonmonster
11-21-2006, 01:18 AM
that just isn't right- i thought mr rogers would be physically incapable of saying anything worse than 'darn'.

Apparantly kramer was on letterman tonight and (according to someone i know who watched it) he came off as a nutjob. Jerry was on there looking disgusted at him.

Mayfuck
11-21-2006, 02:03 AM
"afro-americans" wtf

Nate the Grate
11-21-2006, 02:15 AM
Pretty gracious of Jerry to give up a good 5 minutes of airtime to help out a friend. Considering he got a ton of backlash for being the aloof one, it's really nice to see.

alisonmonster
11-21-2006, 02:20 AM
yeah i'm pretty gracious about providing excuses for my funloving friends who go on bizarre racial tirades for good times. wtf

Nate the Grate
11-21-2006, 02:46 AM
I don't think it was for "good times"

girls like boys
11-21-2006, 02:57 AM
well you can tell the guy is stressed and his self esteem has taken a huge blow coming down from such a monumental icon-like series in the 90's. i mean you kinda get the sense that they were kicking him when he was down, and then he finally totall blew up on them. They should've been kicked out before it got to that point, but he should have just resorted to making fun of something else as obvious and less politically incorrect. but i mean....i've never been on stage and you can't ever predict how you'll act.

alisonmonster
11-21-2006, 03:01 AM
yeah its true he probably wasn't too happy- though i think its hilarious that someone under duress would suddenly start spewing racial slurs: 'I hate you! I hate all of you! I hate.............niggers!'

girls like boys
11-21-2006, 03:03 AM
i thought it was like some sort of stereotype that all jews hated black people somewhere deep down

Nimrod's Son
11-21-2006, 03:30 AM
i thought it was like some sort of stereotype that all jews hated black people somewhere deep down
richards is a very jewish name

Karl Connor
11-21-2006, 08:31 AM
that apology on letterman was pretty awkward

i think richards is losing it or on drugs

duovamp
11-21-2006, 10:21 AM
I think he's a rich bastard who doesn't give a shit anymore. I love the man.

Karl Connor
11-21-2006, 10:44 AM
did you see him on letterman? the guy was apparently pretty shaken up about the thing.

but like i said i think something is wrong with him, whether it be with drugs or whatever. he looked pretty bad

Stray Bullet
11-21-2006, 10:55 AM
jerry really sucks

duovamp
11-21-2006, 10:58 AM
did you see him on letterman? the guy was apparently pretty shaken up about the thing.

but like i said i think something is wrong with him, whether it be with drugs or whatever. he looked pretty bad

I'm watching it now. He looks shaken, but I think he's just nervous.

neopryn
11-21-2006, 11:57 AM
wow this is awkward

mistle
11-21-2006, 12:16 PM
the letterman thing was awful to watch. i had to look away from the screen

neopryn
11-21-2006, 12:18 PM
i think the worst part is jerry telling the audience not to laugh

MusicMan4
11-21-2006, 12:20 PM
i wish dave's band leader was a woman so kramer could have called her sugartits

gpub
11-21-2006, 01:00 PM
i think the worst part is jerry telling the audience not to laugh


That was great.


I think it's also great that the audience obviously didn;t give two shits about the severity of the situation. I mean, the guys sweeting bullets up there and the audience is laughing at whatever he says. Like it's a joke apology. :banging:

HorseflyKing
11-21-2006, 01:06 PM
I saw this old clip of Mr. Rogers (so old it was in black & white) talking about his philosophies on working with children, and for whatever bizarre reason he makes an analogy or something involving him saying "penis".

Hearing Mr. Rogers say penis was one of the most 'wtf???' moments I've ever experienced.
My wife saw a Mr Rogers' episode the other day where he talked about breast feeding and showed a baby about to nurse and you could see the whole bare tit, nipple and all.

I think Kramer shoulda went on there and said, "look, I'm not a racist. I don't think all black people are niggers. I just think these two particular black people are niggers."

Nate the Grate
11-21-2006, 01:51 PM
Who's buying Season 7 today??????

neopryn
11-21-2006, 01:54 PM
i actually am. it's probably the best season.

Salem
11-21-2006, 02:20 PM
At least he's got some humility. That seemed more sincere than the average Mel Gibson apology.

mistle
11-21-2006, 03:00 PM
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gpub
11-21-2006, 03:03 PM
man, that was a perfect clip

wpc33
11-21-2006, 03:37 PM
BRAVO!

jukeboxphuckup
11-21-2006, 05:49 PM
Pretty gracious of Jerry to give up a good 5 minutes of airtime to help out a friend. Considering he got a ton of backlash for being the aloof one, it's really nice to see.

It probably also had something to do with doing damage control before season 7 is released today.

mpp
11-21-2006, 09:24 PM
fucking funniest thing is the letterman deal

Katy Lied
11-21-2006, 09:25 PM
fucking funniest thing is the letterman deal
yeah i heard about that, i can't wait to see it on youtube or something

mpp
11-21-2006, 09:41 PM
it's on there now

Trotskilicious
11-21-2006, 09:44 PM
richards is a very jewish name

Yeah it's not like actors change their names all the time.

Nimrod's Son
11-21-2006, 10:24 PM
Yeah it's not like actors change their names all the time.
some people do. he did not.

Trotskilicious
11-21-2006, 10:25 PM
He's still a jew. Either that or an eagle.

The Jesus
11-21-2006, 10:27 PM
He's probably a crypto-Jew.

Trotskilicious
11-21-2006, 10:28 PM
A crypto-Jew fascist.

Nimrod's Son
11-21-2006, 10:40 PM
do crypto-jews get the jew gold?

Trotskilicious
11-21-2006, 10:42 PM
they get jew platinum

shattering fast
11-22-2006, 01:09 AM
season 7 is released today.

Released today? It's weird that it would come out first in Australia.

shattering fast
11-22-2006, 01:13 AM
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FearToTread
11-22-2006, 02:30 AM
I think something is really really wrong with him mentally and I say within 3 months he offs himself...

Effloresce
11-22-2006, 10:22 AM
What a fucking moron. At first people thought he was joking... if he would have shut up after that he would've been fine. I'm sure there would have still been some controversy but he'd be better off.

He just couldn't shut up though. Wow.

The heckler was already getting thrown out to begin with, all he had to say was "shut the fuck up and get out of the club"... he did not have to get personal.

boynameddarcy
11-22-2006, 11:52 AM
I wonder what the heckler was saying...

wangcomputers
11-22-2006, 12:28 PM
That youtube apology vid was taken off. I found another link to it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqF2FZJdIl4

the apology was pretty cringe worthy. He makes matters worse because he doesn't know what to say and it ends up being farcical. He tries to explain that it had to do with the spontaneity of his comedy technique and how the rage just 'came out' which kind of implies it was deep-rooted, when he should have just said that he simply wanted to offend the heckler as much as possible for the interruptions and the racist remarks were just a means of doing that.
Also the letterman show probably wasn't really the best place to make a public apology, maybe he should have tried oprah. :smoke:

MusicMan4
11-22-2006, 12:49 PM
the apology was pretty cringe worthy. He makes matters worse because he doesn't know what to say and it ends up being farcical.

as ive seen other people say, it made him come off better than these things normally do. it seemed more genuine than reading from a publicists prepared statement. know what im saying

Izzle
11-22-2006, 01:56 PM
might have got away with it if he'd call the black folk crackaz instead of niggaz.

teh b0lly!!1
11-22-2006, 02:18 PM
though i agree with pretty much everything in this thread (all arguments make a good point, in the end) i think the apology was painfully sincere.
im not sure it made him look good but i know it convinced me that he's truly ashamed of what he did.
he can barely speak, his body language is distressful, he starts like 3-4 sentences one after another and finishes none of them;
i think jerry could have shown a little more sympathy than saying some worthless diplomatic shit... "ive known him many years and i love hin".
you got the man all weepy on the other screen and thats what you say?

wangcomputers
11-23-2006, 10:09 AM
as ive seen other people say, it made him come off better than these things normally do. it seemed more genuine than reading from a publicists prepared statement. know what im saying

yeah, he does seem genuinely regretful for saying it. But that could just be because he wants forgiveness and to still be able to have a career, rather than him genuinely wanting to apologise for what he said.

It's definitely better than a prepared statement, which Mel Gibson used as his apology. But I still think Michael Richards could have thought of a better excuse for why it happened, rather than mumble about rage and whatever.

I watched a news story about this on one of those hollywood entertainment shows today, which showed this clip of him impersonating a black dude, implying this might have been deep-rooted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVt6eoKB9sw

IWishIWasBlank
11-23-2006, 01:01 PM
I'd like to reference Dane Cook reprimanding someone at one of his skits... that was amusing, because no one was sure if he was serious or not.

"ok... now its like daddy just slapped mommy at the dinner table... come on now kids just keep eating... eat your dinner. 'I'm not hungry any more mom...'"

I'd also like to reference Dennis Leary, who kicked someone out during a performance.

Neither went on a racial tirade, but went on a minor and major tirade respectively between the two references.

Shit happens when you're performing live, and sometimes it really pisses you off. Happed to B0lly. Happens to a lot of folx, lot of stress there. I'd say it's mostly how you handle it that makes a difference.

Too bad for Michael he didn't handle it correctly.

Irridescent Fairysex
11-23-2006, 01:39 PM
yeah, he does seem genuinely regretful for saying it. But that could just be because he wants forgiveness and to still be able to have a career, rather than him genuinely wanting to apologise for what he said.

It's definitely better than a prepared statement, which Mel Gibson used as his apology. But I still think Michael Richards could have thought of a better excuse for why it happened, rather than mumble about rage and whatever.

I watched a news story about this on one of those hollywood entertainment shows today, which showed this clip of him impersonating a black dude, implying this might have been deep-rooted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVt6eoKB9sw

Any respected deep-rooted racist wouldn't have blacked it up.

Toast
11-24-2006, 11:19 AM
http://captainoftheussinevitable.ytmnsfw.com/?0af7839ff0337a6d855042cc89bfa156

Kramer Rap 3.0!

stain
11-24-2006, 11:29 AM
People make mistakes, and it just looks like he made one big long drawn out mistake. But saying that, he's probably only apologising to try and iron out the dent in his popularity. Which hasn't worked.

It's a shame though, something far more witty could've been made out of it.

rocksteady
11-24-2006, 11:52 AM
it was a stupid thing for him to do but i don't think he's racist. he was being heckled and all he wanted to do is make the hecklers feel shitty. and racial epithets are the fastest way to do that. i'm not saying that what he did was excusable, but i seriously don't believe it was rooted in a hatred for black people.

Fathoms (unadored)
11-30-2006, 03:53 AM
more comedic fallout!

Seinfeild: The Lost Episode! (http://www.yourdailymedia.com/media/1164799313/Seinfeld_quot;Lost_Episodequo)

Cell Tech
11-30-2006, 04:30 AM
http://captainoftheussinevitable.ytmnsfw.com/?0af7839ff0337a6d855042cc89bfa156

Kramer Rap 3.0!
:ROFL:

Mablak
11-30-2006, 07:03 AM
The only sad part of all this was that Richards' rant wasn't remotely funny, I was hoping for something racial but also stinging and witty :confused:

FearToTread
11-30-2006, 07:13 AM
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Geek USA
11-30-2006, 07:23 AM
more comedic fallout!

Seinfeild: The Lost Episode! (http://www.yourdailymedia.com/media/1164799313/Seinfeld_quot;Lost_Episodequo)


HAHA

ravenguy2000
11-30-2006, 08:04 AM
Abuse of the word NIGGA/NIGGER
There have been a lot of reports of people using the word nigga/nigger on XTube. This is obviously a touchy subject and a lot of people are getting upset - just ask Kramer. XTube would like to remind everyone that this is a fun website, where you come to get your rocks off, not be offended by racist remarks. XTube now officially does not accept the words nigga, nigger, cracka, cracker, cracka-ass-cracka, cracker-ass-cracker or honky in usernames, titles, tags or descriptions. If you use them you will be asked to choose a better word. If you do not you will be removed from the site. This is NOT freedom of expression. If we allow it, it would be freedom of oppression.

JokeyLoki
11-30-2006, 10:48 PM
This is amazing.

http://captainoftheussinevitable.ytmnsfw.com/

And it's like 5 minutes long..

neopryn
11-30-2006, 10:52 PM
holy shit, you really are beautifulloser

JokeyLoki
11-30-2006, 10:57 PM
I am?

wangcomputers
11-30-2006, 11:35 PM
that "he can talk" part is from Troy McClure's planet of the apes, right?

duovamp
11-30-2006, 11:37 PM
I CAN SIIIIIIIIIIIIING!