View Full Version : I dislike Jill Greenberg


Kahlo
11-20-2006, 12:10 PM
She is everything that is wrong with Photography today I think - while her pictures are indeed stylish, they just have that Hollywood sheen tweaked to perfection shiney make you throw up in a bucket plastic quality.

She is the anti-christ of photography and to be honest, while I do enjoy many of her lighting techniques - I thought that the new 'End Times' photo project was the low point of her new work.

'End Times' is a project in which (with the parents permission) Jill photographs the reactions of children who have just had sweets taken away from them etc (ie upset kids) depicted in her style: http://arts.guardian.co.uk/gallery/image/0,,-1030329538560,00.html

you can view more of her works here:

http://www.manipulator.com/

mxzombie
11-20-2006, 01:04 PM
looking at the end times photos makes me uncomfortable

the
11-20-2006, 01:26 PM
she's a commercial artist. get over it. she's not supposed to be artsy.

mxzombie
11-20-2006, 01:27 PM
sup ana

Kahlo
11-20-2006, 04:46 PM
I Agree it is commercial. But it isn't art. I think for product sales she is great... like glamou posters.

tcm
11-20-2006, 04:54 PM
bullshit.

Mayfuck
11-20-2006, 04:59 PM
yeah kahlo most likely has no fucking clue what he's talking about here.

Kahlo
11-20-2006, 05:07 PM
yeah kahlo most likely has no fucking clue what he's talking about here.

everyone has an opinion when it comes to art I guess.... she doesn't annoy me as much as the hype machine around her.

tcm
11-20-2006, 05:08 PM
i think we are just in disagreement over the philosophy of art.

tcm
11-20-2006, 05:10 PM
she doesn't annoy me as much as the hype machine around her.
you're just feeding the hype machine, man. you're becoming the hype machine.

Kahlo
11-20-2006, 05:11 PM
I have studied the nature of Art for a few years now, but It doesn't mean I know more than anyone else. I think Greenberg is a challenge to my perceptions anyway - so I decided to wrestle it out on Netphoria woo!

tcm
11-20-2006, 05:13 PM
i have not studied the nature of art for any years. i also do not drink fine wines or smoke a tobacco pipe.

alisonmonster
11-20-2006, 05:15 PM
i like her bear photos alot though the cheesy celeb portraits look like shittier versions of LaChapelle's work- he does them much better.

Kahlo
11-20-2006, 05:40 PM
i have not studied the nature of art for any years. i also do not drink fine wines or smoke a tobacco pipe.

you would be suprised at how much cheese and red wine gets consumed at Art History evenings. I think I'm probably the only one who doesn't have a horse, a car, and an allowance from mummy and daddy.

tcm
11-20-2006, 05:47 PM
i do like cheese.

tcm
11-20-2006, 05:48 PM
you don't have a car?

Kahlo
11-20-2006, 05:50 PM
you don't have a car?

no.. although I do dream of one. Iam 22, and instead am engaged and have a mortgage..but no car..

Not that I really need one, you can walk to the east coast from the west of scotland in 10 minutes.

tcm
11-20-2006, 05:56 PM
i'm only kidding you, Kahlo; no need to be so defensive.

Kahlo
11-20-2006, 05:58 PM
i'm only kidding you, Kahlo; no need to be so defensive.

lol no I wasn't offended ;)
I thought you where just kidding around! most of my friends have cars, I think here it is a right of passage :D

tcm
11-20-2006, 06:00 PM
like you're entitled to it?

Mayfuck
11-20-2006, 07:17 PM
you would be suprised at how much cheese and red wine gets consumed at Art History evenings. I think I'm probably the only one who doesn't have a horse, a car, and an allowance from mummy and daddy.

congratulations you're the turlyonw3 of art history. why do people think when they take a few undergrad courses they suddenly become experts in the field? one doesn't need to study art to know you're blowing stuff out your ass when you're using phrases like ''hollywood sheen'' and ''anti-christ of photography''

Katy Lied
11-20-2006, 07:18 PM
if someone took a series of pictures of shits left in public toilets somebody would stamp ART onto it. people call ANYTHING art.

alisonmonster
11-20-2006, 07:20 PM
if someone took a series of pictures of shits left in public toilets somebody would stamp ART onto it. people call ANYTHING art.

welcome to 1913

Kahlo
11-21-2006, 03:01 AM
congratulations you're the turlyonw3 of art history. why do people think when they take a few undergrad courses they suddenly become experts in the field? one doesn't need to study art to know you're blowing stuff out your ass when you're using phrases like ''hollywood sheen'' and ''anti-christ of photography''

sorry I'm not writing an essay I'm talking to plebs on netphoria :p
Besides, I never claimed to be an expert - but in my field of research I would be considered that since no one has looked at it before :noway:

Kahlo
11-21-2006, 03:03 AM
and who is turlyonw3?