View Full Version : Billy's Loyalty


Faeomm
08-06-2006, 08:23 PM
"Many friends at the time suggested letting James leave, so Jimmy and I could continue on under the name. But I was too loyal to the man I had started the whole thing with, and so I protected him until the very end." - Billy Corgan

He's keeping The Smashing Pumpkins name, according to the website. If he is talking about preserving the name with James in the band, does this mean that James is involved? Assuming he is still loyal to James.

myosis
08-06-2006, 08:49 PM
DUDE WE DON'T KNOW

myosis
08-06-2006, 08:49 PM
and those who know won't say...

Effloresce
08-06-2006, 08:50 PM
who gives a shit

billy will say one thing... and james... well, he WOULD prolly say something else, but he never talks :rofl:

Faeomm
08-06-2006, 08:52 PM
DUDE WE DON'T KNOW

Obviously we don't know, but I just offered it as food for thought.

aztec litany service
08-06-2006, 09:15 PM
i'm thinking, if i were james, i'd probably not want to. but who knows

Faeomm
08-06-2006, 09:31 PM
Do we know the real reason the pumpkins broke up?

RenewRevive
08-06-2006, 09:33 PM
Circumstances change. What Billy felt 6 years ago is presumably different to what he feels now. Little can be inferred by the current situation regarding James' involvement. We'll have to wait to see what transpires. It's still pretty fucking stupid how they are presumably at quite an advanced stage (i.e. writing or recording songs) and yet are still tight-lipped about the band lineup. Can't say I'm expecting any updates anytime soon either.

RenewRevive
08-06-2006, 09:38 PM
Do we know the real reason the pumpkins broke up?

No. We have the Billy version. About all we've got from James is second-hand indications that he disagrees (from his APC pals I think, when Billy went into blame overdrive a while back). Can't recall anything from Jimmy at all and D'arcy makes those two look like irresponsible blabbermouths.

Faeomm
08-06-2006, 09:48 PM
Again, the mystery!

teh b0lly!!1
08-07-2006, 05:20 AM
iirc correctly in the next few lines of that same blog you posted billy says that he's sick of hiding shit and being loyal to people who hurt him so he wont be protecting a lot of people anymore because he loves himself just as much.
( :rolleyes: )
so yeah. im willing to slice my dick and eat it in a sandwich if james is back in that band.

The Melty Man
08-07-2006, 05:45 AM
It's still pretty fucking stupid how they are presumably at quite an advanced stage (i.e. writing or recording songs) and yet are still tight-lipped about the band lineup.
Yeah, but it's nothing less than what you could expect from them.

so yeah. im willing to slice my dick and eat it in a sandwich if james is back in that band.
Ouch. I wouldn't put that much on the line over James not being in the band. But you've got a good point.

NovaFritz
08-07-2006, 07:22 AM
I bet you Garson's in it. Him and his damn "atonalism".

Kahlo
08-07-2006, 07:36 AM
*oooooo*

brendo_91
08-07-2006, 07:51 AM
Do we know the reason the real pumpkins broke up?

Fixed.

Starla
08-07-2006, 08:21 AM
Billy, to himself as he looks in the mirror....

"I wish I knew how to quit you"

Dead
08-07-2006, 10:39 AM
Billy, to himself as he looks in the mirror....

"I wish I knew how to quit you"
http://forums.netphoria.org/images/rating/rating_5.gif

buttercup
08-08-2006, 01:40 AM
and yet are still tight-lipped about the band lineup.

This in conjuntion with Billy's "good things come to those who wait" statement, can only mean that it's the original band members.

If Jimmy and D'arcy were not involved...surely one of them would have said something by now. If either one of them harboured such contempt for Billy, they could reveal that they chose not to be in....hence making Bill look like a real asshole.

buttercup
08-08-2006, 01:42 AM
Sorry if I double posted.....server went busy on me and I clicked a few times too many.

Faeomm
08-08-2006, 07:00 AM
I wouldn't be surprised to see James come back for the reunion, but D'arcy I'm not so sure about. What will happen to her horses?!

Dead
08-08-2006, 07:55 AM
D'arcy isn't coming back, they already announced the new bassist. I suppose she could take on the Liam Gallagher role of playing tambourine though.

The New
08-08-2006, 08:22 AM
This in conjuntion with Billy's "good things come to those who wait" statement, can only mean that it's the original band members.


I disagree with your theory

Kahlo
08-08-2006, 08:57 AM
This in conjuntion with Billy's "good things come to those who wait" statement, can only mean that it's the original band members.


wrong. Darcy has joined the Lemonheads.

Faeomm
08-08-2006, 09:47 AM
At 13, I lost my compass. Indeed The Smashing Pumpkins did.

"I don't have much to say that I didn't already say in those songs. Excuse me--I'm talking. I just want to say that this life I've chosen is kind of strange, I'm not always sure it's a good idea, but shows like this, you reconfirm my faith some more. So, I'm very humbled by your love and support tonight, it's been fantastic. And you know next time I'm here when I'm playing at the Enormo Dome, or wherever. All I've got to say is the next time you see me out this way I'll be crushing you into the dust with the metal." -Billy Corgan

White_Spider
08-08-2006, 10:06 AM
I wouldn't be surprised to see James come back for the reunion, but D'arcy I'm not so sure about. What will happen to her horses?!

Anyway i think Auf Der Maur is the better bass-player and performer

James_Tomson
08-08-2006, 10:13 AM
wrong. Darcy has joined the Lemonheads.

Why are you saying lies like this?

Kahlo
08-08-2006, 10:18 AM
I do it to give you a hard exterior against the tough world of Netphoria - because I love you.

Faeomm
08-08-2006, 10:19 AM
If Avery gets the job it would be weird. Corgan likes his female bassists!

James_Tomson
08-08-2006, 10:26 AM
I do it to give you a hard exterior against the tough world of Netphoria - because I love you.

I do not know who you are or if you are trying to make fun of me but I would prefer it if you did not make silly assumptions about D'arcy when she is not here to defend herself.

Faeomm
08-08-2006, 10:40 AM
the tough world of Netphoria

This is true.

Kahlo
08-08-2006, 10:52 AM
I do not know who you are or if you are trying to make fun of me but I would prefer it if you did not make silly assumptions about D'arcy when she is not here to defend herself.

If your not a troll, then your going to be ripped apart here. If someone hasn't stolen them all, go get a box of hankies ready.

James_Tomson
08-08-2006, 11:02 AM
I can assure you that I am most certinly not a "troll"

If anyone here is a troll then I would say it is you by you're attitude.

Shouldn't you be supporting people like D'arcy who gave us such beautiful music over the years.

Kahlo
08-08-2006, 11:03 AM
yep, I regularly send her a shipment.

buttercup
08-08-2006, 11:05 AM
I disagree with your theory

Well....to me, a good thing would be all of the original members. That's just my interpretation.

exhausted
08-08-2006, 11:23 AM
If Avery gets the job it would be weird. Corgan likes his female bassists!

maybe this time choosed a man so no one in the band could fuck him when he wanted too.

oh wait does iha count as a man? :confused:

buttercup
08-08-2006, 11:44 AM
Why do you build me up (build me up) Buttercup, baby
Just to let me down (let me down) and mess me around......

hahahaha

buttercup
08-08-2006, 01:10 PM
wrong. Darcy has joined the Lemonheads.

Crackheads would be more appropriate.

waltermcphilp
08-08-2006, 01:28 PM
I do not know who you are or if you are trying to make fun of me but I would prefer it if you did not make silly assumptions about D'arcy when she is not here to defend herself.

yea man, stop it will all those silly assumptions, wait til darcy logs in

Faeomm
08-08-2006, 02:39 PM
Machina as a whole was an interactive album! Machina I was the release and Machina II was released so you can take the songs off that you don't want and put better ones on from Machina II and the music added will sound similar to the original. BRILLIANT BILLY! BRILLIANT!

James_Tomson
08-09-2006, 03:33 AM
yea man, stop it will all those silly assumptions, wait til darcy logs in

Does D'arcy truly post on this forum?

Kahlo
08-09-2006, 03:38 AM
yes.

firewoman
08-09-2006, 10:48 AM
all the time.

Dead
08-09-2006, 11:18 AM
Machina as a whole was an interactive album!
Did Glass & The Machines of God save rock and roll?

Yes: Turn to Plate VI
No: Turn to Plate VII

Esty
08-09-2006, 11:41 AM
Dead, why did you leave blamo?

Faeomm
08-09-2006, 02:31 PM
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08-09-2006, 10:32 PM
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buttercup
08-09-2006, 11:26 PM
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OMG I think i'm gonna puke!

Faeomm
08-10-2006, 12:41 AM
Thought you all would enjoy it :)