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davin
05-04-2006, 01:46 PM
Original Unaltered Star Wars Trilogy on DVD!
Source: Lucasfilm May 4, 2006


Lucasfilm has announced that this September fans can look forward to the long-awaited DVD release of the original theatrical incarnations of the classic "Star Wars" trilogy!

In response to overwhelming demand, Lucasfilm Ltd. and Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment will release attractively priced individual two-disc releases of "Star Wars," "The Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi." Each release inc<np>ludes the 2004 digitally remastered version of the movie, as well as the original theatrical edition of the film. That means you'll be able to enjoy "Star Wars" as it first appeared in 1977, "Empire" in 1980, and "Jedi" in 1983.

See the title crawl to "Star Wars" before it was known as "Episode IV"; see the pioneering, if dated, motion control model work on the attack on the Death Star; groove to Lapti Nek or the Ewok Celebration song like you did when you were a kid; and yes, see Han Solo shoot first.

This release will only be available for a limited time: from September 12th to December 31st. The international release will follow on or about the same day. Each original theatrical version will feature Dolby 2.0 Surround sound, close-captioning, and subtitles in English, French and Spanish for their U.S. release. International sound and subtitling vary by territory.

"Over the years, a truly countless number of fans have told us that they would love to see and own the original version that they remember experiencing in theaters," said Jim Ward, President of LucasArts and Senior Vice President of Lucasfilm Ltd. "We returned to the Lucasfilm Archives to search exhaustively for source material that could be presented on DVD. This is something that we're very excited to be able to give to fans in response to their continuing enthusiasm for Star Wars. Topping it off with a new interactive adventure makes September 12 a red-letter day for Star Wars fans."

Personally, I think its lame that they forced the new and redone versions onto everyone, stating they were "definitive", and then now, finally...releasing these before yet another xmas season. This stinks of greed more than the Dark Side tour Roger Water$ is doing! :hurl:

Aeroplane
05-04-2006, 01:50 PM
it was bound to happen

Dead
05-04-2006, 01:52 PM
Each release inc<np>ludes the 2004 digitally remastered version of the movie, as well as the original theatrical edition of the film.
Which was the 2004 remaster? Are those most recent ones in the silver or gold box from 2004, I could have sworn they were more recent.

Voice Implodes
05-04-2006, 01:53 PM
i read this this morning, figured nobody here would care about another VI star wars thread.

Dead
05-04-2006, 01:56 PM
You figured wrong, bitch!

Zorgon
05-04-2006, 02:00 PM
and yes, see Han Solo shoot first.

What the hell is this referring to?

Dead
05-04-2006, 02:01 PM
It's referring to the time they altered the scene so that Greedo shoots first which makes Han less of a cold blooded killer and more of a wussy.

The Jesus
05-04-2006, 02:02 PM
What a fat cunt!

Andy /
05-04-2006, 02:18 PM
I see this as a way to say fuck you to all the people out there that are bootlegging the LD to DVD transfers on eBay and shit. Lucas wasn't going to let a cash cow get away so easily to people undeserving of the money.

About the release, they don't specify whether they are going to clean up the prints or not. We could very well be getting the THX remastered ones from 95 with no additional cleaning. There's no reason not to do a remixed soundtrack to 5.1, either.

It's fucking ridiculous that these are being packaged with the ones that just went on sale a couple years ago, too. I ain't buying 'em.

I AM looking forward to the next Lego SW game, though.

davin
05-04-2006, 02:20 PM
well technically, in the 2004 redone versions they shoot at the same time. but yes, han solo shooting first makes him more of a bad ass!

and dead, these are the silver/gold box ones that came out, with the weird artowrk, etc. that matches the outside package labeling of the new star wars movies.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00003CXCT.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

davin
05-04-2006, 02:21 PM
I see this as a way to say fuck you to all the people out there that are bootlegging the LD to DVD transfers on eBay and shit. Lucas wasn't going to let a cash cow get away so easily to people undeserving of the money.

About the release, they don't specify whether they are going to clean up the prints or not. We could very well be getting the THX remastered ones from 95 with no additional cleaning. There's no reason not to do a remixed soundtrack to 5.1, either.

It's fucking ridiculous that these are being packaged with the ones that just went on sale a couple years ago, too. I ain't buying 'em.

I AM looking forward to the next Lego SW game, though.

the release i mentioned above is 4 discs...1 for each movie and 1 disc of extras. if these new ones will be 2-disc for each movie, i wonder if they will ******* the extras from the 2004 release as well as the extras from the '95 laserdisc release.

Dead
05-04-2006, 02:22 PM
I AM looking forward to the next Lego SW game, though.
There's gonna be another? That game was pretty sweet!

El Scorcho
05-04-2006, 02:23 PM
Oh wow, I'm so surprised! What scathing social commentary.

Dead
05-04-2006, 02:24 PM
and dead, these are the silver/gold box ones that came out, with the weird artowrk, etc. that matches the outside package labeling of the new star wars movies.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00003CXCT.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
Yeah I have the silver one but I was wondering if that is the same one they were referring to as the 2004 remaster. I guess it is. I thought of it as being more recent .

Dead
05-04-2006, 02:25 PM
the release i mentioned above is 4 discs...1 for each movie and 1 disc of extras. if these new ones will be 2-disc for each movie, i wonder if they will ******* the extras from the 2004 release as well as the extras from the '95 laserdisc release.
Doubt they will ******* the bonus disc. It's not even coming as a box set according to that announcement. They're already selling a 3 disc box of those 2004 ones without the bonus.

Andy /
05-04-2006, 02:29 PM
There's gonna be another? That game was pretty sweet!

Yup. Out that same day, hence the last line in that article about the 'interactive adventure'. This one focuses on the OT.

Dead
05-04-2006, 02:31 PM
Awesome. I also played the GBA version, which was alright.

alisonmonster
05-04-2006, 02:47 PM
so when will the 3D version come out in theatres?

jczeroman
05-04-2006, 02:54 PM
Technically, he can do whatever he wants. They're his, he's not forcing anyone to buy them. So he's not greedy.

I think it would be cool to buy them, but I'm not.

FearFactory
05-04-2006, 03:00 PM
Technically, he can do whatever he wants. They're his, he's not forcing anyone to buy them. So he's not greedy.

I think it would be cool to buy them, but I'm not.

yes, he can do whatever he wants and no one has to buy them.. but he's well aware that the fanbase has a large, gotta-own-everything geek fanbase and he's capitalizing on that by re-releasing the original trilogy every couple of years with a couple of extras. now if that's not greedy, I don't know what is.

Junebug
05-04-2006, 03:05 PM
it might be considered greedy, but i don't know many people who would pass up on the opportunity to make money (off of their own creation, mind you) just because people have an insatiable desire to collect crap.

Voice Implodes
05-04-2006, 03:05 PM
There's gonna be another? That game was pretty sweet!

it's the Original Trilogy. here's a video trailer.

http://www.starwars.com/gaming/videogames/news/lego2trailer.html

wHATcOLOR
05-04-2006, 03:16 PM
here is is in sf last weekend at a party where everyone was decades younger:

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Corganist
05-04-2006, 03:37 PM
This would be worth paying for if they cleaned up the print all nice and added a 5.1 track. Otherwise, I'd be perfectly happy with the laserdisc rips I downloaded off bittorrent. I also wonder if they're going to fix the problem with the surround mix on the 2004 version of Ep IV on this release.

But, I'm gonna shell out for it either way I think.

Dead
05-04-2006, 03:50 PM
u guys r just hella jealous

Dead
05-04-2006, 03:51 PM
I also wonder if they're going to fix the problem with the surround mix on the 2004 version of Ep IV on this release.
Say what? Are you saying I have a defective DVD? :eek:

jczeroman
05-04-2006, 03:57 PM
he's well aware that the fanbase has a large, gotta-own-everything geek fanbase and he's capitalizing on that by re-releasing the original trilogy every couple of years with a couple of extras. now if that's not greedy, I don't know what is.

It's not his fault that people love his work! WTF? It's also not his fault that they are willing to buy things that he produces, makes and otherwise creates. The fact that he has a great knowledge of just how much people want it is prudent, not greedy. Now if he were forcing them to buy he stuff whether they wanted it or not, like say through a government law, then that would be greedy. But providing a good at a cost is not greedy.

Corganist
05-04-2006, 04:00 PM
Say what? Are you saying I have a defective DVD? :eek:
Well, according to Lucasarts they meant to do it...but on the Ep. IV DVD the instrumental track is flipped around in the rear channels, where whats supposed to be on the left is on the right and vice versa. (It might be that way on the other discs too, I forget.) And there are a few other problems with the mix, mostly with dropouts of music in certain parts (for example: some of the big musical fanfares in the Death Star battle that were prominent in the old versions are dialed down to the point where they are inaudible in the 2004 version).

Dead
05-04-2006, 04:02 PM
I wonder if that has as big an effect on me since I only listen in stereo. Probably not. I wouldn't notice the difference anyway. But I bet that's BS that they meant to do it.

Dead
05-04-2006, 04:05 PM
It's pretty shitty that they gave a clear impression that George wasn't going to put out the original trilogy on DVD so everyone who would rather not ended up buying the remastered version. This is done all the time but that doesn't mean it isn't shitty. And I think it's a low blow to ******* the remastered version as well cause it just rubs in the fact that they're screwing the people who already bought it at a higher price. They did that with Sin City too but I didn't buy either of those so I didn't care.

Corganist
05-04-2006, 04:14 PM
It's pretty shitty that they gave a clear impression that George wasn't going to put out the original trilogy on DVD so everyone who would rather not ended up buying the remastered version. This is done all the time but that doesn't mean it isn't shitty. And I think it's a low blow to ******* the remastered version as well cause it just rubs in the fact that they're screwing the people who already bought it at a higher price. They did that with Sin City too but I didn't buy either of those so I didn't care.
Actually for Sin City I had heard that Robert Rodriguez put out the word on the web that the better edition was coming out soon and told people to hold off on buying the first version. I don't know that for sure because I heard it secondhand, but it turned out to be a good idea regardless.

Dead
05-04-2006, 04:14 PM
it's the Original Trilogy. here's a video trailer.

http://www.starwars.com/gaming/videogames/news/lego2trailer.html
This looks super awesome.

Dead
05-04-2006, 04:17 PM
Actually for Sin City I had heard that Robert Rodriguez put out the word on the web that the better edition was coming out soon and told people to hold off on buying the first version. I don't know that for sure because I heard it secondhand, but it turned out to be a good idea regardless.
This reminds me of when I read about a Spider-Man 2.5 edition with new scenes. Still hasn't come out yet and I can't even find any info about it online.

I also read about an alternate ending for Resident Evil and they've released two versions now with no alt. ending.

Also, I read about Alien vs Predator original version with lots of gore and missing storylines and then the DVD came out with nothing new.

FearFactory
05-04-2006, 05:23 PM
It's not his fault that people love his work! WTF? It's also not his fault that they are willing to buy things that he produces, makes and otherwise creates. The fact that he has a great knowledge of just how much people want it is prudent, not greedy. Now if he were forcing them to buy he stuff whether they wanted it or not, like say through a government law, then that would be greedy. But providing a good at a cost is not greedy.

providing the exact same basic movie with small changes several times is indeed greedy. how many different versions of the first 3 SW flicks have been released? seriously, man.. it's fucking lame, and I laugh at anyone dumb enough to spend hundreds of dollars on the same movie just so they can own 4 extra seconds of movie footage or have a commentary track, KNOWING that he's going to release it again with some other miniscule change. he ought to be ashamed of himself.. what's next, a version with a diamond-studded logo and a commentary track that's just two hours of George Lucas laughing along with Pink Floyd's "Money" playing in the background?

Andy /
05-04-2006, 05:30 PM
what's next, a version with a diamond-studded logo and a commentary track that's just two hours of George Lucas laughing along with Pink Floyd's "Money" playing in the background?

I'd buy it.

Voice Implodes
05-04-2006, 06:32 PM
i am a sw nut, but i do not see buying these as necessary, as i already own the dvd's that are already out. it's not worth it to me to shell out another $60 to see han shoot first. but for those who dont own the trilogy yet, may as well wait for these ones with both versions.

jczeroman
05-05-2006, 08:30 AM
providing the exact same basic movie with small changes several times is indeed greedy.

Providing a service that people may or may not trade something for volentarily is not greed. All this shows is that Lucas has the midas touch, as even a few extra seconds of film or variations is worth half a days pay to some people. Again, no one has to buy this stuff. If they think it's greedy or immoral or whatever then they don't have to buy it. Quite frankly, I'm interested in the new product, but maybe $2 interested, not $40-$80 interested.

Is a doctor "greedy" for providing five different versions of a cancer pill? Is a manufacturer greedy for providing lots of different of jobs? Is netflix greedy for having four different rental plans? Is the phone company greedy for providing regular line, lines with long distance, plans with all that and DSL, or plans with all that and cable too?

I can't believe your criminalizing fair and square production, and then lamenting the fact that people are willing to freely trade for that produce which they find value in and brings them happiness.

GlasgowKiss
05-05-2006, 08:54 AM
I guess you think a pharmaceutical company pricing 99% of the worlds population out of a drug that cured cancer wouldnt be greed.

BeautifulLoser
05-05-2006, 09:05 AM
Meh... I haven't bought any of the movies yet, and I doubt I will.

ChristHimself!
05-05-2006, 09:11 AM
the Ewok Celebration song

Yes! I seriously could not believe it when they cut that out.

I AM looking forward to the next Lego SW game, though.

:o that game is strangely good!

I was playing it with my nephew who is like 4 and he is only wee so he was just standing in the corner slashing randomly and i was having to stop myself getting frustrated and going FOR FUCKS SAKE THROUGH THE DOOR! USE YOUR FORCE POWERS! COME ON!!!!!

Nimrod's Son
05-05-2006, 09:18 AM
I see this as a way to say fuck you to all the people out there that are bootlegging the LD to DVD transfers on eBay and shit. Lucas wasn't going to let a cash cow get away so easily to people undeserving of the money.

About the release, they don't specify whether they are going to clean up the prints or not. We could very well be getting the THX remastered ones from 95 with no additional cleaning. There's no reason not to do a remixed soundtrack to 5.1, either.

It's fucking ridiculous that these are being packaged with the ones that just went on sale a couple years ago, too. I ain't buying 'em.

I AM looking forward to the next Lego SW game, though.
From what I have heard, it's the original theatrical prints.

And I will be buying them, because I never bought the other ones for that very reason - the remakes sucked.

Nimrod's Son
05-05-2006, 09:22 AM
I'm a purist. I WANT to see the stuff in the original theatrical release as it was. There are some flicks that you look back on and marvel the effects based on the time.

Even now when I watch T2 I remember the wonder I originally had over those effects.

ChristHimself!
05-05-2006, 09:24 AM
what is your opinion on the cutting out of the ewok celebration song nimmy

FearFactory
05-05-2006, 09:33 AM
Providing a service that people may or may not trade something for volentarily is not greed. All this shows is that Lucas has the midas touch, as even a few extra seconds of film or variations is worth half a days pay to some people. Again, no one has to buy this stuff. If they think it's greedy or immoral or whatever then they don't have to buy it. Quite frankly, I'm interested in the new product, but maybe $2 interested, not $40-$80 interested.

Is a doctor "greedy" for providing five different versions of a cancer pill? Is a manufacturer greedy for providing lots of different of jobs? Is netflix greedy for having four different rental plans? Is the phone company greedy for providing regular line, lines with long distance, plans with all that and DSL, or plans with all that and cable too?

I can't believe your criminalizing fair and square production, and then lamenting the fact that people are willing to freely trade for that produce which they find value in and brings them happiness.

where did I ever mention that what he was doing was criminal? you point that out to me and I'll hand you this discussion and even buy you dinner at any restaurant of your choosing, where I will wear a shirt that says "Colin beat me during an internet discussion about greed".

you're missing the point of what does and does not constitute greed. if a doctor is allowing different versions of pills, it is because different companies produce them. if a manufacturer provides different jobs, it's because only people with certain skills can do said jobs... and on top of that, they're not selling anything to those people! Netflix and phone companies are providing different levels of service at the same time.. completely different from the Star Wars situation. it's not like someone else can legally take those Star Wars movies and in<fucking>clude all the extra footage and release it as a separate deluxe edition, which would be the right thing to do.

George Lucas is milking every last penny he can out of the franchise. no one HAS to buy the constant releases, but rabid fans without patience will. I'm surprised that he hasn't had an offer where you mail in one of the older versions and $20 to get the newest version, then after most people go for this offer, turn around and sell the original version for $500 because it's ULTRA-RARE AND OUT OF PRINT!

to paraphrase Bill Hicks: "if money had a dick, George Lucas would be a <i>flaming</i> faggot".

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ChristHimself!
05-05-2006, 09:42 AM
the ewok celebration song

I mean, seriously, it's probably the most joyous part of all 6 movies.

FearFactory
05-05-2006, 09:46 AM
I mean, seriously, it's probably the most joyous part of all 6 movies.

george lucas has no use for joy. it just takes up space and time that he could use for counting money.

Nimrod's Son
05-05-2006, 09:50 AM
what is your opinion on the cutting out of the ewok celebration song nimmy
It's just as bad as the Greedo/Han scene

i mean it's the FINAL SCENE of the entire series.. it kind of sticks with a kid who left a theatre singing "yub nub"

jczeroman
05-05-2006, 10:03 AM
I guess you think a pharmaceutical company pricing 99% of the worlds population out of a drug that cured cancer wouldnt be greed.

We've got to ask ourselves some fundamental questions here:

who owns the drug?
who is therefore entitled to posess, own, destroy, distribute, trade or give the drug?

FearFactory
05-05-2006, 10:14 AM
We've got to ask ourselves some fundamental questions here:

who owns the drug?
who is therefore entitled to posess, own, destroy, distribute, trade or give the drug?

that's beside the point. it IS greed and the fact that you don't see that makes me want to throw a half-eaten spring roll at you.

jczeroman
05-05-2006, 10:31 AM
where did I ever mention that what he was doing was criminal? you point that out to me and I'll hand you this discussion and even buy you dinner at any restaurant of your choosing, where I will wear a shirt that says "Colin beat me during an internet discussion about greed".

That's fair. I guess I didn't mean it so literally. I take it back.


you're missing the point of what does and does not constitute greed. if a doctor is allowing different versions of pills, it is because different companies produce them. if a manufacturer provides different jobs, it's because only people with certain skills can do said jobs... and on top of that, they're not selling anything to those people! Netflix and phone companies are providing different levels of service at the same time.. completely different from the Star Wars situation.

Wrong. It is exactly the same thing. Let me explain each one.

Lucas is making a staggered level of product (some of the few examples).
- Star Wars VHS for say $10
- Star Wars VHS + theatre releases in the nineties with new crap for say $20
- Star Wars in 2004 with new crap around $50
- Star Wars in 2004 with new crap plus old crap prolly around $70

Soem people, like me, are content with one of these levels. Others, like this lady my mom knows, has or will buy all this shit because it happens to be what she values. While I'm content with one level of Star Wars, I am not with Fender Guitars. Really, they could have made one guitar with the features of my two strats and american style jaguar. But no, they're "greedy" bastards, and so I own three guitars.

Anyway, the comparisons:

Cancer Pills:

- cancer pill #1 fixes 3 symtoms and costs $200
- cancer pill #2 fixes 2 different symtoms and costs $400
- cancer pill #3 fixes all symtoms and costs $500
- cancer pill #4 is strictly for chemo and costs $300
- cancer pill #5 is for side effects of the first three and costs $700

Company provides jobs:

- job #1 is for a tech I that pays $10 hr. and makes the company $4,000 a year in profit
- job #2 is for a tech II that pays $12.50 hr. and makes the company $7,000 a year in profit
- job #3 is for a manager that pays $19 hr. and makes the company $19,000 a year in profit
- job #4 is for a janitor I that pays $7.35 hr. and makes the company $2,000 a year in profit

Netflix (not exact):
- plan #1 is one movie at a time (unlimited) for $10
- plan #2 is two movie at a time limited number for $11
- plan #3 is two movies at a time (unlimited) for $15

George Lucas is simply offering a product at staggered levels. Yes, a lot of people will buy everythign he puts out even though its a total rip-off as far as I'm concerned. But so what, that's between them and him, and I'm not going to fault them for wanting it, and him for providing it to them at a price they are willing to pay.




it's not like someone else can legally take those Star Wars movies and in<fucking>clude all the extra footage and release it as a separate deluxe edition, which would be the right thing to do.

Right. Do you know why? Because someone else doesn't legally own them - George Fucking Lucas does. If people could do that, they might as well walk in, steal my guitars, make them into one super fender guitar and sell them to some schmuck at my expense.


George Lucas is milking every last penny he can out of the franchise. no one HAS to buy the constant releases, but rabid fans without patience will. I'm surprised that he hasn't had an offer where you mail in one of the older versions and $20 to get the newest version, then after most people go for this offer, turn around and sell the original version for $500 because it's ULTRA-RARE AND OUT OF PRINT!


Of course he's making every penny he wants out of the franchise. What do you think he made them for? Why do you think the studio funded him? I'm sorry I'm stuck in the middle of your relization that Lucas didn't make the Star Wars trillogy out of some noble quest to satisfy geeks and spread the gospel of early 80's sience fiction bliss or some other such ideal. Everyone involved in this thing did it, ultimately, for money. The workers for their paycheck, the studio for the rights, lucas for the legacy funds, etc... Why are you suprised that they are trying to get as much of it as possible? If you were offered double your salary for doing almost nothing, wouldn't you take it? Hell, have you ever taken welfare, foodstamps, unemployment or any other kind of "free" money? Who are you to judge Lucas any differently?

ChristHimself!
05-05-2006, 10:33 AM
colin is so intense sometimes

i think if he does come to yorkshire and i go out for a pint with him and thom they will just chew me up and spit me out :(

jczeroman
05-05-2006, 10:34 AM
that's beside the point. it IS greed and the fact that you don't see that makes me want to throw a half-eaten spring roll at you.

If that is greed, then you are greedy for wastign your time right now on the internet when you could be out helping someone. Why are you out working for a paycheck, when people need your time and labor to live. Why are you wearing expensive clothes (by africa's standards) rather than selling them and giving the procedes to the homeless? Why are you driving a car, when you could be biking and giving that money to single mothers who have almost nothing. Why are you living in space that is too big for you, when you could allow others to room with you, entire families who are sleeping in their cars? THAT is greed.

jczeroman
05-05-2006, 10:35 AM
colin is so intense sometimes

i think if he does come to yorkshire and i go out for a pint with him and thom they will just chew me up and spit me out :(

I wouldn't. I don't think I'm that intense in person. I dunno, mariner would know.

ChristHimself!
05-05-2006, 10:36 AM
you still on about coming to yorkshireland this year some time?

jczeroman
05-05-2006, 10:39 AM
you still on about coming to yorkshireland this year some time?

I just did the UK a month ago. We only had a week so I couldn't get that far north. I'll go again soemtime in the next few years, and I will be going to york.

ChristHimself!
05-05-2006, 10:41 AM
I just did the UK a month ago.

Fucks sake! I had no idea! Give us a shout if you manage to get along to York, I pass through there pretty frequently when I go up to edinburgh and Thom lives there as you prolly know.

Voice Implodes
05-05-2006, 10:48 AM
It's just as bad as the Greedo/Han scene

i mean it's the FINAL SCENE of the entire series.. it kind of sticks with a kid who left a theatre singing "yub nub"

i thought i was the only one that remembered singing ewoks.

to be honest, in all of the changes lucas made for the OT, only 2 bother me. one, iobviously, is han shooting first. when i was a kid, that was part of his allure the first time i saw it. like it wasn't quite determined if he was a danger to Luke or a friend yet. and the second is putting Hayden Christensen at the end of Jedi. sure, this one doesnt bother me as much anymore, and i can make sense of it, but the old way was better, at least luke would recognize anakin's face as the one he finally saw just hours earlier.

GlasgowKiss
05-05-2006, 11:13 AM
We've got to ask ourselves some fundamental questions here:

who owns the drug?
who is therefore entitled to posess, own, destroy, distribute, trade or give the drug?


Well obviously the company that developed the drug owns the drug, and should have their intellectual property rights upheld. With their rightful monopoly they should be allowed to sell the drug at 50 million a dose, because lets face it, there are enough rich people or people close to rich enough people dying, to warrant that price.

This isnt greed you understand, this is the free market so its fair game.

Dead
05-05-2006, 11:26 AM
They cut the ewok song out of the souped up version? I didn't realize.

FearFactory
05-05-2006, 12:22 PM
Of course he's making every penny he wants out of the franchise. What do you think he made them for? Why do you think the studio funded him? I'm sorry I'm stuck in the middle of your relization that Lucas didn't make the Star Wars trillogy out of some noble quest to satisfy geeks and spread the gospel of early 80's sience fiction bliss or some other such ideal. Everyone involved in this thing did it, ultimately, for money. The workers for their paycheck, the studio for the rights, lucas for the legacy funds, etc... Why are you suprised that they are trying to get as much of it as possible? If you were offered double your salary for doing almost nothing, wouldn't you take it? Hell, have you ever taken welfare, foodstamps, unemployment or any other kind of "free" money? Who are you to judge Lucas any differently?

obviously the franchise was made with the intention of making money - otherwise why waste your time on it? my problem with it is the way that lucas is going about it - not even releasing them on DVD until the late 90's and even then, releasing the "original vision" editions and not the originals, then stating that the originals would never be available on DVD, making sure that everyone bought up the newer versions.. then suddenly he decides that he's going to release the originals on DVD, including (oh thank you mighty king george) the newer "original vision" editions, which will likely drive the price of each movie up another $10.

if I were to be offered double my salary, I would have to ensure that it didn't come at the expense of someone else. I couldn't remain working at a position knowing that because I accepted twice as much money just so someone else could be axed - and besides that, if you're getting an enormous increase in salary, there's obviously a reason why - you're likely getting someone else's job duties.

and yes, I have taken unemployment. why? because it's something to help me pay my bills. otherwise, my car gets repossessed and my credit rating gets screwed. it's "free" money, but only if it's determined that you lost a job due to no fault of your own (or relocated for a spouse). if I were to have willingly charged someone twice for a service and been fired because of it, I would not be able to collect unemployment.

FearFactory
05-05-2006, 12:25 PM
If that is greed, then you are greedy for wastign your time right now on the internet when you could be out helping someone. Why are you out working for a paycheck, when people need your time and labor to live. Why are you wearing expensive clothes (by africa's standards) rather than selling them and giving the procedes to the homeless? Why are you driving a car, when you could be biking and giving that money to single mothers who have almost nothing. Why are you living in space that is too big for you, when you could allow others to room with you, entire families who are sleeping in their cars? THAT is greed.

greed is an intense drive to obtain wealth or material goods. what you are describing would be better classified as selfishness.

not that I agree that it is.

jczeroman
05-05-2006, 01:27 PM
Fucks sake! I had no idea! Give us a shout if you manage to get along to York, I pass through there pretty frequently when I go up to edinburgh and Thom lives there as you prolly know.

I didn't know you were there. I was in Staffordshire most of the time.

jczeroman
05-05-2006, 01:29 PM
Well obviously the company that developed the drug owns the drug, and should have their intellectual property rights upheld. With their rightful monopoly they should be allowed to sell the drug at 50 million a dose, because lets face it, there are enough rich people or people close to rich enough people dying, to warrant that price.

This isnt greed you understand, this is the free market so its fair game.

Look, I'm not saying it's nice of them to withhold it at such a price. But I can't fault them for it.

jczeroman
05-05-2006, 01:31 PM
obviously the franchise was made with the intention of making money - otherwise why waste your time on it? my problem with it is the way that lucas is going about it - not even releasing them on DVD until the late 90's and even then, releasing the "original vision" editions and not the originals, then stating that the originals would never be available on DVD, making sure that everyone bought up the newer versions.. then suddenly he decides that he's going to release the originals on DVD, including (oh thank you mighty king george) the newer "original vision" editions, which will likely drive the price of each movie up another $10.

That is something different - namely, false advertsing. And that is not ok - in fact, I think it is despicable.

Also, I don't care if you've taken unemployment. I'm just saying that people tend to take money where they can get it.

MeAndMyLlama
05-05-2006, 01:33 PM
What the hell is this referring to?

yep and it fucked over the entire scene making greedo somehow miss at point blank range

Ugly
05-05-2006, 01:39 PM
Whoohoo!

Honestly, I'll probably only watch 'em once, just as a curisoity piece. I don't mind Lucas fucking around with them. By this point, getting them is more of a collector's obessive compulsive star wars freak thing, than anything.

I really don't want to know if they're going do to a 30th aniversary 2007 DVD release. I know A New Hope 3D will be in a digital theatre near you, but I might draw the line at another DVD release a year down the road.

Maybe.

Ugly
05-05-2006, 02:35 PM
also, since they said they'd never release it and now they will, could the Holiday Special be far behind?

Happy Life Day, everyone!

Dead
05-05-2006, 02:57 PM
yep and it fucked over the entire scene making greedo somehow miss at point blank range
With Han sliding horizontally back and forth at light speed it's no wonder Greedo missed!

davin
05-05-2006, 05:53 PM
With Han sliding horizontally back and forth at light speed it's no wonder Greedo missed!

Hey, don't knock it! Its Han's super-secret force power. He can also slide vertically up and down to step over imaginary tails.

Dead
05-05-2006, 05:54 PM
Ahahaha nice one :D

Ugly
05-18-2006, 02:44 PM
there's a big stink over at AICN where SW-bashers in-the-guise-of-purists are complaining that the OT releases won't be Anamorphic transfer.

From what I understand, Anamorphic, in its simplest terms, is basically made for HD TVs. So, if you have an HD TV, your OT picture will be all crammed and stuff.

If you have a regular old TV, you know, like 90% of the fucking country has, then there's no need to bitch.