View Full Version : John Craig's Mellon Collie Artwork


Aquasol
02-27-2006, 07:22 PM
I usually just lurk here, but this question prompted me to register.

Does anyone know how John Craig's artwork on Mellon Collie was created? Some of it (particularly "children in a meadow" and "cat wedding") looks almost as if it was a cut-and-paste job using images swiped from old pre-existing children's books (certain cats look like they were drawn in slightly different styles etc.). Or did he really paint it all himself?
The Rolling Stones and Rod Stewart album covers are his only other work I'm familiar with, anyone know of anything else?
I'll have to acquire a vinyl copy of mellon collie one of these days to examine the art in more detail....so damn expensive though

douglas78
02-27-2006, 07:37 PM
alot of it, in my opinion, comes from clipped pictures and early 19th century postcards. some of it was probably painted or drawn too. the front of the album was from an existing portrait of a saint or something with a different face put on it for the album..i can't remember the name of the original portrait right now and i should know it.

topleybird
02-27-2006, 08:00 PM
http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/ECC/ECC123/01100016.GIF
http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/exhibitions/raphael/img/NG168.jpg

Aquasol
02-27-2006, 08:23 PM
Wow, that's pretty disheartening. I guess it shouldn't matter, but it bothers me. At least Machina's painting are all obviously originals. No one can take that away from me!

Lord Lemons
02-27-2006, 08:25 PM
http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/ECC/ECC123/01100016.GIF
http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/exhibitions/raphael/img/NG168.jpg
May i ask you how you found those?
Comparing the paintings from the cover and the other 2, there are slight differences. The mount on the top girl is open on the cover and it isnt in the original. There is more detail in the body on the cover than in the original also.

topleybird
02-27-2006, 09:08 PM
May i ask you how you found those?

NO YOU MAY NOT. HOW FUCKING DARE YOU.

And it's clear, to me at least, that the album cover is an original painting--the two paintings above are obvious inspiration/reference, but the dude didn't cut and paste in Photoshop.

topleybird
02-27-2006, 09:08 PM
SERIOUSLY, ASK ME AGAIN. WATCH WHAT HAPPENS.

douglas78
02-27-2006, 09:18 PM
yeah..original painting with reference to existing paintings..is that second one st. catherine or mary magdalin?.<<spelled wrong

hereisnowhy
02-27-2006, 10:03 PM
I'll have to acquire a vinyl copy of mellon collie one of these days to examine the art in more detail....

When you do can you send me a fullsize high quality colour copy of the birds in the plane? kthx.

Lord Lemons
02-27-2006, 11:16 PM
SERIOUSLY, ASK ME AGAIN. WATCH WHAT HAPPENS.
Please dont hurt me... May I ask you where you got those paintings? :cry:

douglas78
02-27-2006, 11:23 PM
he will poke your eye out

topleybird
02-28-2006, 12:03 AM
I made them. Those are my paintings. What would you like to know about them.

Aquasol
02-28-2006, 12:13 AM
I can see that the second painting is a Raphael, but who painted the first? Also, do you know their titles?

topleybird
02-28-2006, 12:15 AM
Do you have a reading disability? I painted them. The first one is called Gringo Hominy and the second is When I Wear Corduroy I Am a Man.

Aquasol
02-28-2006, 12:18 AM
Thank you very little

topleybird
02-28-2006, 12:19 AM
Fuckin'... you little wretch. "The Souvenir" by Jean-Baptise Greuze and the Raphael is of Saint Catherine. Be thankful I didn't point you to www.justfuckinggetanarteducation.com or something.

Aquasol
02-28-2006, 12:28 AM
haha
the sad thing is I have taken art history classes, but thank you

topleybird
02-28-2006, 12:29 AM
Bet you wish you hadn't tried to negrep me NOW, huh.

tcm
02-28-2006, 05:23 AM
And it's clear, to me at least, that the album cover is an original painting--the two paintings above are obvious inspiration/reference, but the dude didn't cut and paste in Photoshop.
yeah they didn't even have Photoshop back then!

PkPhuoko
02-28-2006, 05:14 PM
It's caled "mixed media" where you combine painting with existing artwork or photos... there was one of the pieces he used for them that said mixed media

Nothing/everything
02-28-2006, 05:28 PM
When I Wear Corduroy I Am a Man.

sounds like a wedding present track title

PkPhuoko
02-28-2006, 06:01 PM
sounds like a wedding present track title
lol

laradelocke
02-28-2006, 06:19 PM
http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/ECC/ECC123/01100016.GIF
http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/exhibitions/raphael/img/NG168.jpg
The bottom one is a painting of St Catherine (not real title)by Raphael (I THINK)..no idea about the first one but I'd like to know .

Travis Meeks
02-28-2006, 06:25 PM
The bottom one is a painting of St Catherine (not real title)by Raphael (I THINK)..no idea about the first one but I'd like to know .


no shit

laradelocke
02-28-2006, 06:42 PM
*should really read more closely*

Humble apologies JDG.






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