I think its from May 2005, has some SP related bits. Sorry if it's been posted. Make sure to check out the 2nd page also.

http://www.mtv.com/bands/m/music_geek/doublealbum_053005/index.jhtml

If you want to cut straight to the SP:


Billy Corgan, meanwhile, stops short of calling the Smashing Pumpkins' Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness a mistake, but he echoes Reznor's sentiments.

"Many fans of the Pumpkins prefer the second album [Siamese Dream] over the third, which is the double CD, and my feeling is, if you actually broke just one record out of the Mellon Collie album, that would be considered our best album," he said. "The second album is more cohesive, whereas the third is this prowling kind of mass of feelings."


What's Your Favorite Double Album?

Billy Corgan:
"Mine [Smashing Pumpkins' Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness]. No, just kidding. Electric Ladyland by Jimi Hendrix, because it's an incredible piece of work, top to bottom. The White Album by the Beatles is usually mentioned as a great double album, but it's a little bit scattered, like my album is. Of course theirs is better."

http://www.mtv.com/bands/m/music_geek/doublealbum_053005/images/main.jpg
<font color=99CCFF>yellow bolly frightens me!

thanks for posting this. i didn't realize trent felt that way about the fragile.... as for mellon collie, its easily the best pumpkins album - maybe tied with siamese dream. i certainly hope bolly doesn't think it any kind of mistake</font>

Originally posted by Dead
like my album is.

goddamnit, that faggot

Originally posted by Dead
No, just kidding. Electric Ladyland by Jimi Hendrix, because it's an incredible piece of work, top to bottom. The White Album by the Beatles is usually mentioned as a great double album, but it's a little bit scattered, like my album is. Of course theirs is better."

Heh, you KNOW he's not kidding. I agree though.;)

Originally posted by mourninglight

<font color=99CCFF>as for mellon collie, its easily the best pumpkins album - maybe tied with siamese dream.</font>
I feel the same way.

Originally posted by Dead



What's Your Favorite Double Album?

No, just kidding. Electric Ladyland by Jimi Hendrix, because it's an incredible piece of work, top to bottom.

WTF. I have that album and it's only one cd. :( Bolly and his ultra 133+ 2 cd shit.

Generally, Mellon Collie is the favourite album for fans of The Smashing Pumpkins while Siamese Dream is the favourite Smashing Pumpkins album for the masses.

Originally posted by Radiofred
Generally, Mellon Collie is the favourite album for fans of The Smashing Pumpkins while Siamese Dream is the favourite Smashing Pumpkins album for the masses.

You'd be surprised how many people around here prefer SD and go on about all the supposed 'filler' on mcis.

mcis 'filler' > spaceboy & sweet sweet

spaceboy is a nice song! i dont count that as a filler

Originally posted by Silver-bolt
spaceboy is a nice song! i dont count that as a filler

he didn't actually call it filler, he just said that the songs people call filler on mcis (generally we only come out at night, lily, take me down etc) are better than spaceboy and sweet sweet.

I really like sweet sweet, I'm uber bored of spaceboy and cherub rock though, and have been for a LONG time.. they're good songs, I just outplayed them.

I'm Paul, I'm a mellon collie lover and I don't dislike any songs on it.

Originally posted by Dead

I feel the same way.

Same here.

Originally posted by talk show host


goddamnit, that faggot

Why do you say that? He's just saying that his album is scattered. :think:

Originally posted by Radiofred
Generally, Mellon Collie is the favourite album for fans of The Smashing Pumpkins while Siamese Dream is the favourite Smashing Pumpkins album for the masses.

I think the exact opposite is true.

Originally posted by davin


Why do you say that? He's just saying that his album is scattered. :think: i'm guessing because he called it "my album"

Originally posted by neopryn
i'm guessing because he called it "my album"

I think it's because he compared MCIS to the White Album. I want an answer though! :p

i'm surprised he didn't mention The Wall, i thought he loved that big time

Originally posted by Spaldz


WTF. I have that album and it's only one cd. :( Bolly and his ultra 133+ 2 cd shit.

Long ago, before cds, there were these big black things called records, or albums, or LPs, that only held 40-50 minutes as opposed to a cd that holds 80

it really knocks my dick in the dirt:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

Originally posted by ShotFullOfDiamonds

he didn't actually call it filler, he just said that the songs people call filler on mcis (generally we only come out at night, lily, take me down etc) are better than spaceboy and sweet sweet.
I'd like to meet the man who thinks Lily is filler. So I could whupp his ass. It's one of my favorite songs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Dead

It's one of my favorite songs!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <font color=99CCFF>RIGHT ON!!</font>

Originally posted by Spaldz


WTF. I have that album and it's only one cd. :( Bolly and his ultra 133+ 2 cd shit.

CDs are longer than LPs. It was probably pressed on two records back in the day. Don't quote me though because I don't own the album either, just the cd.

And The Wall is the greatest double album of all time. Hands down.

it was.

and it now costs 25 bucks on a good day :mad:

In the 1996 guitar world magazine (the one with the megaman poster insert) Billy says his albums is more "all over the place" like the White Album, as opposed to centralized around a single theme like The Wall. He said he tried to maek the themes cohesive, but couldn't control the natural direction of his song-writing.

If the article wasn't like 9 pages, I would type it up...

Bust it out and re-read if you have it.

Originally posted by transluscent
it was.

and it now costs 25 bucks on a good day :mad:
I downloaded this shit like a year ago, haven't listened to it, but the txt file says "Total time .......... : 79:29" if that helps

Originally posted by neopryn
i'm guessing because he called it "my album"


you are correct sir

Originally posted by Dead

I downloaded this shit like a year ago, haven't listened to it, but the txt file says "Total time .......... : 79:29" if that helps

You haven't heard the wall?!:erm

CDs have obscured have what were double albums anyway so albums like the hendrix one or dylan's blonde on blonde are not generally considered doubles anymore as their running time dips 80minutes, yet they were no doubt conceived as doubles as much as something like the wall

Even though SD is about half the length, I've had for a long time a hard time listening to the whole thing in a sitting. After Mayonnaise, the rest of the album, while excellent, just doesn't feel as pertinent to the feeling as a whole. While I suppose the same could be said about the songs after XYU on MC, it was just the opposite for me. I'd listen to the whole damn thing just to get to savor those last 5. In my opinion, the real expertise of MC was its individualization of every song, and yet a certain cohesion, which seems like a monster task of production, and I certainly applaud the album with my highest recomendation. I think given that only 1/4 of the songs Billy had written made it, and from what I understand, Flood had a large say in what songs were going on. I'm sure Billy still associates the time in which MC was recorded with the huge cadre of styles he was venturing into, and thus to him, the time probably feels scattered which influences his view of the album. Regardless of how people say TAFH songs are better than certain melon collie songs (and I agree), I believe that they would not have been better on MC (an endless debate, but I think I trust Flood just this once to have whiddled Billy's most massive creative streak to date, to a cohesive, and absolutely beautiful album).

honestly mellon collie would be bulletproof to me if cupid de locke and take me down werent there. i like all the other songs

aint nothing wrong with cupid de locke

Originally posted by TuralyonW3

You haven't heard the wall?!:erm Thought we were talkin bout Jimi Hendrix!

Flood rules, and I want him to work with SP2.

Originally posted by Dead
Thought we were talkin bout Jimi Hendrix!

Well definitely check that out too.

IMO, the two best albums by the SP are MCIS and Adore

Cupid de Locke is one of the best tracks on MCIS.

My MCIS would go:

Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Tonight, Tonight
Thirty-three
In the Arms of Sleep
1979
Muzzle
Where Boys Fear to Tried
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
Beautiful
Lily
Thru the Eyes of Ruby
We Only Come Out At Night
Cupid de Locke
Galapogos
By Starlight
Farewell and Goodnight

its crazy how billy is one of my musical heros, then the supreme of my heros is his favorite double album, greatness..

Wrong. MCIS was their mainstream triumph. If you asked joe blow pumpkin fan who likes the singles, MCIS will no doubt be considered their best album. The flipside, if you ask fans of the band that followed them from day one, the majority will prefer SD. Even a signifigant part of those diehards would cite Gish.

Dont forget Gish and SD are 12-14 years old respectively. Alot of fans from the 91-95 era have moved on and dont post on message boards or care about the band anymore in a meaningful way (please sapre me with the "not me" posts,as obviously im one of the few that keep in touch with the inner workings of the members after all these years).

The bottom line is there is generally a style gap amoungst most fans. Machina isnt Gish. SD is not Adore. Stylistically, inspirationally, intentions, executions were all drastically different. Me and my friends found the pumpkins in 92 with Gish. Im the ONLY one of the group that gave a shit about the band from Adore on. The second most of them heard the single Ava Adore they gave up on the band. (I probably should have too). But id bet those who liked Adore, could stomach Machina better then a Gish fan.

My point? Who the fuck knows... but i wouldnt take this message boards unofficial vote seriously, as the "masses" and "diehards" are gone. Nobody cares anymore. There is no "better" album. But the people that care to comment these days generally came along much further down the pike... they came along for the ride a third of the way through. Alot of indie fans LOVED gish but despised SD.

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As far as Reznecks comments... they are valid. MC's brilliance is in its scope and intent...not in its execution or cohesiveness. Alot of the tracks could have used more time to iron out, but theyrushed through trying to get every idea to tape instead of perfecting things as they went. SD was a polished mammoth. Every idea was thoroughly exausted, wheras on MC they had to get parts down quick because they had to move on to other things. SD, the songs flowed from one to the next. Everything felt in its place. Both MC discs lost focus halfway through, and just became assembled messes. Half of the tracks would have been better of b-sides since they didnt really fit the whole. MC would have been best served if they picked the best 15 songs, labored on them to bring out the full potential of them...then realeased a mega Aeroplane box set so people could listen to "Take Me Down" "Beatiful" "Cupid" and the other filler that only killed then momentum of the other songs.