A man has been shot at Stockwell Tube station by armed police officers.

Passenger Mark Whitby told BBC News he had seen an Asian man shot five times by "plain-clothes police officers" with a handgun.

Passengers were evacuated from the Northern Line station in south London. Police have also cordoned off surrounding streets.

Eyewitnesses say armed police have surrounded a mosque in east London that has been evacuated after a bomb scare.

Police are hunting four would-be bombers after Thursday's London blasts.

The bombers fled after detonators went off, causing small blasts, but failed to detonate the bombs themselves.

Services on the Victoria and Northern lines have been suspended following a request by the police, London Underground said.

Ambulances including an air ambulance have been sent to the scene.

Mr Whitby, told BBC News: "I was sitting on the train reading my paper.

"I heard a load of noise, people saying, 'Get out, get down'!

"I saw an Asian guy run onto the train hotly pursued by three plain-clothes police officers.

"One of them was carrying a black handgun - it looked like an automatic - they pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him.

"I saw the gun being fired five times into the guy - he's dead."

Passenger Briony Coetsee said: "We were on the Tube and then we suddenly heard someone say, 'Get out, get out' and then we heard gunshots."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4706787.stm

Mark Whitby said: "I was sitting on the train... I heard a load of noise, people saying, 'Get out, get down'.

"I saw an Asian guy. He ran on to the train, he was hotly pursued by three plain clothes officers, one of them was wielding a black handgun.

"He half tripped... they pushed him to the floor and basically unloaded five shots into him," he told BBC News 24.

"As [the suspect] got onto the train I looked at his face, he looked sort of left and right, but he basically looked like a cornered rabbit, a cornered fox.

"He looked absolutely petrified and then he sort of tripped, but they were hotly pursuing him, [they] couldn't have been any more than two or three feet behind him at this time and he half tripped and was half pushed to the floor and the policeman nearest to me had the black automatic pistol in his left hand.

"He held it down to the guy and unloaded five shots into him.

Heavy coat

"He had a baseball cap on and quite a sort of thickish coat - it was a coat you'd wear in winter, sort of like a padded jacket.

"He might have had something concealed under there, I don't know. But it looked sort of out of place with the sort of weather we've been having, the sort of hot humid weather.

"He was largely built, he was quite a chubby sort of guy.

"I didn't see any guns or anything like that - I didn't see him carrying anything. I didn't even see a bag to be quite honest.

"I got into the ticket hall. I was approached by a policeman and London Underground staff asking me if I needed counselling.

"I was just basically saying I've just seen a man shot dead. I've seen a man shot dead. I was distraught, totally distraught. It was no less than five yards away from where I was sitting. I actually saw it with my own eyes."

'SUICIDE BOMBER' SHOT
Police have shot a suspected suicide bomber at a tube station in south London.

Armed officers opened fire up to six times on the suspect as he hurdled a ticket barrier and raced along a platform at Stockwell station.

Police screamed at passengers to evacuate and are thought to have shot the suspect as he stumbled on to a train. It is believed the man was killed.

Alarmed onlookers said they saw up to 10 plain-clothed officers chasing an Asian-looking man before opening fire.

Reports said the suspect was pushed to the ground and shot five times at close range.

Passenger Briony Coetsee said: "We were on the tube and then we suddenly heard someone say 'get out, get out' and then we heard gunshots."

Air and road ambulance crews have been sent to the scene and unconfirmed reports suggest the man was involved in Thursday's assault on the capital.

If the suspect is confirmed to be a suicide bomber, it would mark the fifth attempted terrorist attack on London in less than a day.

A Scotland Yard spokesman said: "We can confirm that just after 10am armed officers shot a male at Stockwell underground station."

Police have been given orders to shoot to kill if they believe someone is about to detonate a bomb.

Sky News Crime Correspondent Martin Brunt said: "The officer or officers involved in this clearly felt this suspect was about to detonate a bomb."

Tube services on the Victoria and Northern Lines were suspended at the request of police.

An earlier bomb threat targeting a mosque in east London has been given the all-clear by police.

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1189920,00.html

:eek:


war is breaking out in london.

Originally posted by ShotFullOfDiamonds


"I was just basically saying I've just seen a man shot dead. I've seen a man shot dead. I was distraught, totally distraught. It was no less than five yards away from where I was sitting. I actually saw it with my own eyes."

http://nhjm.net/shit/saddam-pwnd.jpg

Police are believed to be under orders to shoot to kill if they believe someone is about to detonate a bomb.

so, i won't be wearing a big coat any time soon.

Originally posted by TIMb


so, i won't be wearing a big coat any time soon.

yeah i was just thinking, it would suck to be an asian backpacker passing through london right now :/

in the same way it sucks to be a westerner backpacking in the middle-east.

...prolly only cus america started a war there, though :erm

my bosses are off so im just watching it all on the website news feed

i wish i could get the winamp tv simpsons channel working

wherabouts in london do you work / live timmeh?

ooooh oooh... i'll post maps. hang on.

my internet broke. can't get multimap to work :(

anyway, i live in putney. i work in twickenham.

you don't have anything to do with these reports that police are looking for a young male, reportedly with a slight seff ephricken accent in the putney area, do you!?!?!?! :eek:

dude, there are aparently one million souf efrikens in london. and i'm guessing 90% live in putney. that place is full of us!

they'll never find me!!!! mmmmmwhahahahaha

Originally posted by TIMb
they'll never find me!!!! mmmmmwhahahahaha

yeah.. they definitely won't

just out of interest umm

if i was to send a letter to a house in london, and i didn't want it to arrive at yours, what address wouldn't i send it to? the police don't have a gun to my head as i type this

*smells a fish*

:Skeptical

wait! it's rat, hey!? you smell a rat. not a fish. silly me!

Originally posted by TIMb
wait! it's rat, hey!? you smell a rat. not a fish. silly me!

well things can smell fishy..

or is it just seem fishy

fuck knows

taht's right! when something's fishy... you smell a rat. got it!

Originally posted by TIMb
taht's right! when something's fishy... you smell a rat. got it!

:erm

lets make an internet suicide pact

GO!

i solemnly swear....

Originally posted by TIMb
i solemnly swear....

no i meant like kill ourselves now

you first

this thread has been destroyed.

Originally posted by ShotFullOfDiamonds
no i meant like kill ourselves now

you first

oh. right. well, i might as well make the most of it... i'll blow myself up on the train on my way home from work.

Originally posted by Sonic Johnny
this thread has been destroyed.

yeah im having a crummy day

it might be interesting if they were actually releasing any more news about the situation

apparently the police cconference that was supposed to start at 1:30 has now been put off till at least 2:45 (it's 1:50 just now) due to 'ongoing operations'

Originally posted by TIMb
in the same way it sucks to be a westerner backpacking in the middle-east. this comparison fails big time. Iran is a great country to travel through, not even mentioning Pakistan. They surely belong among the most hospitable people on the planet.

Originally posted by RopeyLopey
this comparison fails big time. Iran is a great country to travel through, not even mentioning Pakistan. They surely belong among the most hospitable people on the planet.

i was kidding.

have you been to iran... i wanna go.

Originally posted by TIMb


i was kidding.

have you been to iran... i wanna go. heh, sorry , then. In those threads with a serious content I sometimes have difficulties to say what is a joke and what is not.

I haven't been there yet, but I have talked to enough people who went to India through Iran and Pakistan.

I want to see Nanga Parbat one day, though.

the guy in my work who is just an attention whore has just been talking about how they shot the guy point blank 5 times in the face because they saw he was wearing a belt with wires sticking out. what a load of bullshit, im sitting here listening to the live news feed.

i just overheard someone in the office say the shot dude was actually a patient... he had some breathing equipment on. the wires were for that, not a bomb.

i'll try find out more.

Originally posted by TIMb
i just overheard someone in the office say the shot dude was actually a patient... he had some breathing equipment on. the wires were for that, not a bomb.

i'll try find out more.

LOL well if that's the case he should have stopped running from plain clothes policemen shouting "stop, we are police, we WILL shoot"

apparently a large section of harrow road is now blocked off and two women of morrocoan descent have been led into police vans :/

Originally posted by ShotFullOfDiamonds
LOL well if that's the case he should have stopped running from plain clothes policemen shouting "stop, we are police, we WILL shoot"


true. must be bullshit.

Maybe he didn't speak English or something.

i think i heard wrong :erm

Originally posted by Eulogy
Maybe he didn't speak English or something.

after what happened in london yesterday and 2 weeks ago yesterday, even if he didn't speak english, he'd have heard from friends that i wasn't a particularly good idea for an asian guy to run through an underground station away from groups of people pulling guns on him. this is the uk, people don't just jump about with handguns and smgs!

why dont you two just get on aim

Originally posted by alexthestampede
why dont you two just get on aim

we're at work.. ever hear of work?

Originally posted by alexthestampede
why dont you two just get on aim

'cus what would you do then?

probably see nothing worth reading and go and take a shower


everyone wins

Originally posted by alexthestampede
probably see nothing worth reading and go and take a shower


everyone wins

cool, toddle on

Originally posted by alexthestampede
probably see nothing worth reading and go and take a shower

so, with us here you get something to read. except you should also make time to shower.

Originally posted by ShotFullOfDiamonds

"One of them was carrying a black handgun - it looked like an automatic - they pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him.

"I saw the gun being fired five times into the guy - he's dead."


Thats absolutely amazing.

Originally posted by ShotFullOfDiamonds


Passenger Briony Coetsee


GOATSE ???

So...from what I've heard, they forced him on the ground, then killed him? Has anyone explained this yet?

Originally posted by bornentertainer
So...from what I've heard, they forced him on the ground, then killed him? Has anyone explained this yet?

Come on, he was wearing a big ugly jacket on a warm day.









The Fashion Police get the job done.
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Originally posted by bornentertainer
So...from what I've heard, they forced him on the ground, then killed him? Has anyone explained this yet?

I guess the justification is going to be that he was a suspected terrorist (which he apparently was), they pursued him while telling him to stop, he didn't, and then he ran onto a subway train. Given the shenanigans lately they probably assumed he was heading for his target, and killed him before he could detonate a bomb on the train.

Still, this is pretty unprecedented

Originally posted by DeviousJ


I guess the justification is going to be that he was a suspected terrorist (which he apparently was), they pursued him while telling him to stop, he didn't, and then he ran onto a subway train. Given the shenanigans lately they probably assumed he was heading for his target, and killed him before he could detonate a bomb on the train.

Still, this is pretty unprecedented

Turns out he was a Brazilian dude not connected with the bombings. Oops.

Originally posted by bornentertainer


Turns out he was a Brazilian dude not connected with the bombings. Oops.

yeah but he was still a terror suspect..

i mean why else run from the police? nutter!

Originally posted by ShotFullOfDiamonds


yeah but he was still a terror suspect..

i mean why else run from the police? nutter!

I don't doubt his stupidity for running, but there are such things as ARREST and QUESTIONING. You don't just shoot a fucker after you've forced him on the ground. Why don't we just ditch the whole criminal process? :rolleyes:

Originally posted by ShotFullOfDiamonds


yeah but he was still a terror suspect..

i mean why else run from the police? nutter!

In fairness if you're in London and some dude pulls a gun on you and tells you to stop, you might have other ideas

Originally posted by bornentertainer


I don't doubt his stupidity for running, but there are such things as ARREST and QUESTIONING. You don't just shoot a fucker after you've forced him on the ground. Why don't we just ditch the whole criminal process? :rolleyes:

And like I said, if he was a suspected terrorist and they see him head for the tube, they try to stop him and he bolts for the train, forcing him onto the ground isn't going to stop him reaching for a detonator and fulfilling his mission. I'm not saying they were right to do it but I can see why they made that decision

Originally posted by DeviousJ


In fairness if you're in London and some dude pulls a gun on you and tells you to stop, you might have other ideas



because youre a dumb brit and you dont understand how a gun works and what could happen if you didnt stop?

or are you saying someone in london would be less likely to place great value on their life because after all, its brought them to london

Originally posted by alexthestampede




because youre a dumb brit and you dont understand how a gun works and what could happen if you didnt stop?

or are you saying someone in london would be less likely to place great value on their life because after all, its brought them to london

I think understanding how a gun works is a key point in the reasoning behind trying to escape from a guy wielding said weapon!

Originally posted by DeviousJ


And like I said, if he was a suspected terrorist and they see him head for the tube, they try to stop him and he bolts for the train, forcing him onto the ground isn't going to stop him reaching for a detonator and fulfilling his mission. I'm not saying they were right to do it but I can see why they made that decision

you're saying they weren't right to do it - but hey do you think it's OK to bring up the criminal charges against them?

I find it totally wrong to accuse them.

Originally posted by RopeyLopey


you're saying they weren't right to do it - but hey do you think it's OK to bring up the criminal charges against them?

I find it totally wrong to accuse them.

I don't think the cops should be charged with anything, but I don't think that shooting and killing him was the best way to handle it. But hey, in that position, especially because of the fucked up situation over there, they probably didn't think they had much choice. They were just doing their job I guess.

Originally posted by RopeyLopey


you're saying they weren't right to do it - but hey do you think it's OK to bring up the criminal charges against them?

I find it totally wrong to accuse them.

Well I'm not really in a position to say what they should have done with whatever information they had, but the cops can't go around shooting anyone who runs away from them because I'd imagine that happens a lot, especially since these were plain-clothes guys waving guns around. I think charges being brought is just part of a formal investigation into the incident. I wonder what'll happen to the intelligence people who marked him as a suspect...

Originally posted by DeviousJ


Well I'm not really in a position to say what they should have done with whatever information they had, but the cops can't go around shooting anyone who runs away from them because I'd imagine that happens a lot, especially since these were plain-clothes guys waving guns around. I think charges being brought is just part of a formal investigation into the incident. I wonder what'll happen to the intelligence people who marked him as a suspect... welll if they bring up the charges just for the sake of formality, then it's OK

I just hope that it wouldn't make the policemen hesitant to pull the trigger when it happens next time and the dude will happen to be a real terrorist.

I kinda have to think if he'd been carrying a big ol' bomb under that coat it would have gone to press by now. I mean, if I were the London 5-0 I'd want people to know the shooting was justified somehow. 'Course, maybe they just figured he was dangerously overheated in that coat. So they ventilated him.