Originally Posted by rudi
I agree with this guy.
You netphoria people are such a load of fucking whiny, annoying, pedantic complainers, and I find it hilarious that you manage to rack up 2000+ posts on a message board about a band that you claim to hate. And when I say hilarious, I mean pathetic.
What is wrong with the Anniversary tour? Do you REALLY want a GREATEST HITS tour? Is that what your definition of "artistic integrity" would be? The 20th Anniversary tour should be about PAST, PRESENT, FUTURE. And here's a little breakdown: The Nov. 1st show contained 9 "classic" (past) Pumpkin songs, 4 "Zeitgeist + AG" (current) Pumpkins songs, and 9 "future" songs such as Owata, ARB, etc. WHAT IS WRONG IN THAT DISTRIBUTION? Not to mention that the "past" songs are all fucking GREAT CHOICES (Mayo, Siva, Disarm, Speed Kills, etc.) and the new songs such as Owata and Sounds of Silence are BADASS, even according to most of you netphorians.
So despite your unreserved hate for Billy Corgan and for the Smashing Pumpkins, you continue to come here and have your circle-jerk parties of self-importance, stating "I, Douchebag #1, hereby swear to never support Billy Corgan financially ever again", as if ANYBODY except your sycophantic netphorian buddies actually gives a flying two-faced fuck about what you do or don't do with your money, and as if your two-dozen-strong list of Billy Corgan denouncements will somehow get Corgan's attention and he'll say "Hey, a few cockholes who have gained excellent social status on a MESSAGE BOARD don't like the direction I'm going in, so I'm going to listen to this faceless mob of jeering naysayers and start playing only BWBW, Tonight Tonight, and Ava Adore at every show, wearing my Zero shirt all the while, since these message-board denizens have obviously accrued such a fine-tuned ability to judge, create, and approve or disapprove of music."
I agree that Zeitgeist was probably the Pumpkins' weakest effort. But certain songs like Tarantula, 7SOB, That's the Way, Neverlost are excellent additions to SP's catalogue, and they have only been getting better. Zeitgeist sounded like an extension of TFE, because Billy hadn't been with a BAND prior to writing it. Now that he's been with a band, it is clear with the increasing quality of subsequent releases (AG, SC, GLOW, and now OWATA + ARB etc.) that it takes TIME to get into the groove of things, but he is SURELY getting in the groove. But none of you see that. You can somehow SIMULTANEOUSLY praise the new songs in one thread, and then absolutely rip Billy Corgan to shreds in the next thread.
I mean, Netphoria is somewhat legendary in it's negativity, but you fucking lot are the REAL DEAL; it ain't no legend, you really are just as sad, judgmental, and self-important as I had always heard, and THEN some.
APPEASE THE NETPHORIAN GODS. I suppose that should be Billy's modus operandi, although it is clear that it certainly would NOT be an attainable goal.
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